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I am by birth a muhajir but I will never support or fall for the ethnic polarization and evil the MQM actually represents. I vouch for love and respect with my countrymen and will refrain from the regular rants of Punjabistan, Sindhi chor etc etc. Every Pakistani is my brother. Supporters of MQM must make a simple choice. Whether they want the country or their dumb ethnic organizations. I feel ashamed. The failure of our community doesn't just begin with or end with MQM and its wrongs, it starts with how we lost Bengal by giving patronage to urdu, it also starts with how urdu, our main tongue was implemented all across the country... we should be critical of ourselves not defensive, other ethnicities will soon follow suit. As for me, for me Pakistan is the alpha and omega. I will not bury my head in sand when their are solid reports that MQM is a RAW funded organization. We can either accept it or continue polarizing the country on the basis of ethnicity.

It is the inability to think critically about our ethnic identity is a major problem

Well said, people in Pakistan vote along ethnic lines as a result our current predicament seems to be never ending one.
 
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My political inclination? Me talking about following proper procedures in investigations and trial renders me an MQM activist? Boy that was fast. Either you have not read my earlier posts or what, members know I am an almost ex PTIan. I had or have nothing to do with MQM. Even in past couple of days, I have held MQM responsible for the large part on the overall state of Karachi.

Ali read again what I said. I didn't accuse you of being an MQM supporter and even if you were I said that it would be an asset. Accountability must start and I don't care where it starts from. As far as the procedures are concerned, just look at the behavior of our hyper active judiciary.
 
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When are you going to wake up and accept there might be something going here? If BBC lied there is simple remedy. Why not go to the HM Courts and apply for libel under Defemation Act 2013. This law is to redress any wrong like for example BBC or any media making false claims. So please tell MQM if they are indeed innocent go to the courts in UK and get justice.

However there is one problem. Everything will come out in the court. The good, bad and ugly. A judgement could go against BBC in which case BBC would have to apologize and pay millions of pounds in damages. It also would prove the claims were false.

However you could also lose in which case it would pretty well prove BBC was telling truth. Trust me BBC will have got this matter checked by their own legal experts to make sure they have enough evidence that would stand scrutiny in the courts.

Now if MQM is innocent let us see if they go to the courts. I somehow doubt that though ...

Link > Defamation Act 2013

Six things all journalists need to know about the Defamation Act 2013 (which is now in force) | Press Gazette

Two examples of libel cases. The first plaintiff lost and the second won.

Link > Criminal boss loses libel case against journalist who exposed him | World news | The Guardian
Link > Boyle wins £54,650 in 'racism' libel case - BBC News


Bhai jaan

Aaap to serious he ho ga-ay

This is all meant for PDF court and not HM court.

All this is meant for time pass, joking, sniping, $hit shoveling by OP. Nothing more.

..... Me talking about following proper procedures in investigations and trial renders me an MQM activist? ...i.

Depends!

Suit yourself. I am not MQM's advocate but know that there is a proper way of doing everything.

But meray Shah Ji

Most of the people "enjoy" it while doing it in an "improper" way.

What can we do about them .
 
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Can BBC lies , or does lied over the years ?

Sue them mate, don't throw empty farts here at PDF. If your believed terrorist party is not playing RAWs games; despite discovery of Indian ammunition, admission of terrorists for training in India and despite Altaf begging RAW for help, Sue BBC and show the world your leaders are innocent. NO one would want to prove BBC wrong more than your leaders but just F! do it. Sue them and see your leaders getting free from treason charges.
 
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Why doesn't your God (nauzubillah) Altaf sue the BBC then? If the BBC ever lies, it gets its arse handed over to it in a defamation lawsuit.
Just an example: BBC to pay Lord McAlpine £185,000 after false child abuse allegations | Politics | The Guardian

When it comes to MQM, the Police is lying, the Army is lying, the Judiciary is lying, the Public is lying, the Media is lying, the Rangers are lying, the Scotland Yard is lying, the BBC is lying, the entire Edgeware Police Station is lying, MQM's own Tariq Mir is lying.

Abb to bas aasman se farishte uttarne ke der hai, aur tum log un ko bhi jhoota karar de do ge. Besharmi ki intehaa hai.

Hi,

This defamation law suit may be in the range of $100 million or close to it---if MQM files it. Then they would not have the need to get it from raw.
 
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If BBC is lying, why doesn't the MQM take BBC to the court? This is a lottery for the MQM as they are going to be awarded millions of dollars. But if the MQM does not sue the BBC, and they don't refute Tariq Mir's statements, this is proof enough this story is true.
Did ISI took BBC to Court when they Lie about ISI's Double Game????If they didnt despite whole Country's Credibility at Stake then why should you ask the same to MQM????

There is a Case under Investigation regarding MQM and in UK its well known that both Parties are asked to keep their Mouths Shut till the Judgement and in this case Scotland Yard and MQM are two parties. So its quite obvious that both Sides are keeping Quite on that one.
 
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@mods hope you will wake up , & act on that pice of shyt soon , if not I will ?lolzz

that user called Mods was a troll and got banned. it doesnt mean the moderators or administrators please stop name calling

Yeah, every criticism of your holier than thou MQM is:
  • conspiracy
  • sabotage
  • planted evidence
  • forced confession
  • media trial
And so on :D
dont taunt him . you must stop now
 
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BBC lies Tariq mir lies too, Rangers lie too.
This video lies too. God knows what these target killers were doing inside nine zero, under protection of nine zero.
Following is the Rangers press release with details of those arrested:

  1. Faisal Mota (involved in murder of Wali Khan Babar and convicted and sentenced to death by court)
  2. Farhan Shabbir aka Mullah MQM worker Farhan alias Shabbir identified by witness | 92 News HD
  3. Amir
  4. Nadir (convicted and sentenced 13 years)
  5. Ubaid K 2 Ubaid K2 confesses to killings, terrorism | 92 News HD

These weapons were brought by rangers in blankets, apparently @TankMan .
53 weapons recovered from Nine-Zero illegal: Rangers
"When it comes to MQM, the Police is lying, the Army is lying, the Judiciary is lying, the Public is lying, the Media is lying, the Rangers are lying, the Scotland Yard is lying, the BBC is lying, the entire Edgeware Police Station is lying, MQM's own Tariq Mir is lying. "
 
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BBC lies Tariq mir lies too, Rangers lie too.
This video lies too. God knows what these target killers were doing inside nine zero, under protection of nine zero.
Following is the Rangers press release with details of those arrested:

  1. Faisal Mota (involved in murder of Wali Khan Babar and convicted and sentenced to death by court)
  2. Farhan Shabbir aka Mullah MQM worker Farhan alias Shabbir identified by witness | 92 News HD
  3. Amir
  4. Nadir (convicted and sentenced 13 years)
  5. Ubaid K 2 Ubaid K2 confesses to killings, terrorism | 92 News HD

These weapons were brought by rangers in blankets, apparently @TankMan .
53 weapons recovered from Nine-Zero illegal: Rangers
"When it comes to MQM, the Police is lying, the Army is lying, the Judiciary is lying, the Public is lying, the Media is lying, the Rangers are lying, the Scotland Yard is lying, the BBC is lying, the entire Edgeware Police Station is lying, MQM's own Tariq Mir is lying. "
Only bhai is truthful altof altof
 
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Did ISI took BBC to Court when they Lie about ISI's Double Game????If they didnt despite whole Country's Credibility at Stake then why should you ask the same to MQM????

Is the MQM an espionage agency like the ISI? Intelligence Agencies don't operate like a political party. A Political Party is supposed to be transparent and open unlike an Intelligence Agency. Thus, your analogy is far off and your desperate attempt to defend the MQM is humorous at best. Your comparing Apples and Oranges my friend.

There is a Case under Investigation regarding MQM and in UK its well known that both Parties are asked to keep their Mouths Shut till the Judgement and in this case Scotland Yard and MQM are two parties. So its quite obvious that both Sides are keeping Quite on that one.

Again pathetic attempt, there is nothing stopping the MQM from following two parallel law suits. They both are not mutually exclusive. The mere fact that Tariq Mir did not deny his statement that has been leaked in the Media is proof enough that his testimony is true. Instead of refuting it and denying it, his first words were 'Who gave this to you?'. MQM needs to understand this is not the same Armed Forces anymore that MQM can cut a deal with, this a Gen Raheel a through Professional who is going to end the militancy of the MQM.

In my personal opinion, MQM is not an Anti Pakistan Party. Hazrat Syed Altaf Hussain might be, but not the party on ground. Altaf Bhai thought he could hoodwink the Indians by accepting the money because who does not like free money and continue to carry on his activities. But this has blew up in his face and this time around MQM will face music. MQM is not the same violent force as it used to be, Rangers have clipped their militant wings. Even though being a die hard MQM supporter, you acquiesced in another thread that MQM is involved in criminal activities.
 
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Can BBC lies , or does lied over the years ?
BBC is a state owned media organisation run by tax payer's money...& like everywhere else even in the UK their first & foremost agenda is to push UK's national interest. Even BBC propagated the myth about Saddam Hussain having weapons of mass distraction, like every other mainstream media in the west. Now I'll let you decide whether BBC upholds the truth all the time?
 
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