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[53fd]

Come now, you prefer 'western media' more than your own country's ? A pretty slavish attitude if you ask me

I'm a dual citizen of Pakistan and America. I can follow whatever media I wish listening to.

 

[53fd]

You're not? Pretty easy to say those words sitting in the US

Drones killed 59pc civilians, 41pc terrorists

No self respecting country allows it's own territory (citizens aside) to be bombed by a foreign power. Again, no self respecting country allows itself to be used as a geopolitical chess piece and be thrown away too.

Stay in denial if you want, but your country has been a client state. First the British, then the Arabs/Americans now probably the Chinese

It was the Indian subcontinent that was under the British, not just Pakistan. Pakistan has never been the clients of the Arab countries, America or China. There is a difference between having amicable relations and being a slave. India has amicable relations with Israel, Iran and Russia. India is the slave of the US. India views its relations with other countries in a specific way at the orders of the US. Big differences.

 

[justanobserver]

Btw, it is the Pakistani ISI that gives the targets for the drone strikes, and if it wants, it can stop these drone strikes in the country too. It doesn't act like the slave to the US like India does. Pakistan sees the benefit in killing the terrorist scums that crossed the Afghan border into Pakistan, their Pakistani sympathizers and the Al-Qaeda scum.

60% of your citizens are terrorist scum ?

Drones killed 59pc civilians, 41pc terrorists

It's pretty clear that your country men are against it

US drone attacks provoke fury in Pakistan ( a 'western source')

ISI is a slave of USA too?

 

[Vinod2070]

A self-respecting nation like Pakistan will resist pressure from the US to release a known killer like Raymond Davis. A bootlicker like India would release & bail out Warren Anderson for killing thousands of Indians in the Bhopal Industrial Disaster. The US is killing the international network (not Pakistani citizens) of Al-Qaeda that crossed over from Afghanistan into FATA by the use of drone attacks, as well as the Afghan Taliban (Afghan citizens, not Pakistanis). Pakistan is conducting its own ground operations against the TTP (Pakistani citizens) that pose a threat to Pakistan (for example: in Swat, South Waziristan etc), just like India is conducting operations against the Maoists, Islamists & others in India.

Pakistan has an independent policy from China, India serves the orders of its master 'The US', especially in its relations with Pakistan. There are Indians who constantly claim India is a complete slave to the US when it comes to dealing with Pakistan. India is a wimp, and a slave to its masters. Pakistan does not think about China when it deals with other countries, India thinks about the US when dealing with Pakistan. India also receives more foreign aid than Pakistan or any developing country in the world. So it is indeed a boot licker and a slave. And you have just been totally OWNED

Heard of Allah, Army and America? The three factors that control Pakistan.

You guys are so cut off from facts, its not even funny.

Pakistan has sold itself cheap, just to be able to maintain its hostility to India. Saudi princes decide your internal politics, America decides who rules you and China decides much more for you.

But making noise on a forum is easy, confronting reality is tough.

We are not an ally of the USA, you are.

 

[53fd]

You're confusing a few things here. It's not 60% of our citizens are scum, the 59% of the total people killed by drones are "allegedly" Pakistani citizens. Based on the total # of casualties by the drones, this could be a very small number. By the way, these figures are easily disputable (view Post # 412), and if I ever quote this source again for anti-India news, you should accept it as fact as you are accepting it right now.

If the ISI was a slave of the US, why would the US accuse the ISI and the army of aiding and abetting the Afghan Taliban & the TTP? Why would the Pakistani Army refuse the orders of the US to start operations in North Waziristan? Why would the ISI and Pakistani government refuse to hand over Raymond Davis, when India handed over Warren Anderson when he killed thousands of Indians in the Bhopal Disaster?

 

[justanobserver]

It was the Indian subcontinent that was under the British, not just Pakistan. Pakistan has never been the clients of the Arab countries, America or China. There is a difference between having amicable relations and being a slave.

I was talking about the creation of your nation.

The Muslim League practically licked British boots, when they didn't support the quit India movement.

They licked the Brits again when they agreed to send soldiers to WWII .

The loyal Pakistani Punjabi's who loved the 'martial race' title conferred on them (cannon fodder in reality) thought of Pakistan as a gift from the British, a symbol of their unwavering loyalty.

America friends? They disposed of you after the Cold War

Chinese? Your economy is slowing dying with that FTA you signed with them in 2006, eg: your indigenousness auto industry died in 2008. Militarily they will be the source of your future equipments. So yes, Pakistan is going to be a Chinese client economically and militarily

 

[53fd]

Most of the drones kill terrorists, Pakistani Army claims:

Pak Military Admits Major Gains Of US Drone Strikes Targeting Terrorists

 

[53fd]

I was talking about the creation of your nation. The Muslim League practically licked British boots, when they didn't support the quit India movement. They licked the Brits again when they agreed to send soldiers to WWII .The loyal Pakistani Punjabi's who loved the 'martial race' title conferred on them (cannon fodder in reality) thought of Pakistan as a gift from the British, a symbol of their unwavering loyalty.

America friends? They disposed of you after the Cold War

Chinese? Your economy is slowing dying with that FTA you signed with them in 2006, eg: your indigenousness auto industry died in 2008. Militarily they will be the source of your future equipments. So yes, Pakistan is going to be a Chinese client economically and militarily

You mean they disposed Afghanistan after the Cold War. There was no war inside Pakistan at the time, and Pakistan had its own democratic government elected after the US left. Pakistan does not view its relations with other countries w.r.t China, India views its relations with Pakistan under the influence of the US. The typical slave mentality of India. Pakistan gave China access to the US markets after Kissinger's secret visit to Beijing, at a time when China was unknown. Pakistan has given numerous favors to China, including helping build up its army; China is repaying the favor like a true friend. Pakistan and China are anything but slaves. India and the US on the other hand are slaves and masters respectively.

Pakistan can say no to China, just like it gave the contract of Gwadar to the Port Authority of Singapore, India cannot say no to the US. It is the typical slave mentality that the Hindus have had since the time of the British rule in the subcontinent.

 

[justanobserver]

When all else fails go on religion (I'm not a Hindu btw )

Anyways stay in your delusional world. Independent Pakistan independently allowing US drones to bomb it's own independent territory

 

[53fd]

When all else fails go on religion (I'm not a Hindu btw )

Anyways stay in your delusional world. Independent Pakistan independently allowing US drones to bomb it's own independent territory

You started the talk of the Muslim League and the Muslims being the slaves of the British colonialists, I only returned the favor. The next time someone kills thousands of your people (like Warren Anderson), you don't let them out on bail & let them leave the country (UNLESSSS, you are a slave). Owned again!!!

 

[53fd]

When all else fails go on religion (I'm not a Hindu btw )

Anyways stay in your delusional world. Independent Pakistan independently allowing US drones to bomb it's own independent territory

I guess you have no response now that I've proven that most of the drone attacks kill terrorists, something which benefits Pakistan. Goodbye, and sleep tight

 

[JayAtl]

You mean they disposed Afghanistan after the Cold War. There was no war inside Pakistan at the time, and Pakistan had its own democratic government elected after the US left. Pakistan does not view its relations with other countries w.r.t China, India views its relations with Pakistan under the influence of the US. The typical slave mentality of India. Pakistan gave China access to the US markets after Kissinger's secret visit to Beijing, at a time when China was unknown. Pakistan has given numerous favors to China, including helping build up its army; China is repaying the favor like a true friend. Pakistan and China are anything but slaves. India and the US on the other hand are slaves and masters respectively.

Pakistan can say no to China, just like it gave the contract of Gwadar to the Port Authority of Singapore, India cannot say no to the US. It is the typical slave mentality that the Hindus have had since the time of the British rule in the subcontinent.

If you stoop to making religion based remarks and racists innuendos- I hope not to see you complain about Congressman and head of house homeland committee Rep Steve King's Muslim manhunt in America . Don't worry this hindu has your peeps back in the US- I have contributed to a group that fights such bigtory towards Muslims in america.

 

[53fd]

If you stoop to making religion based remarks and racists innuendos- I hope not to see you complain about Congressman and head of house homeland committee Rep Steve King's Muslim manhunt in America . Don't worry this hindu has your peeps back in the US- I have contributed to a group that fights such bigtory towards Muslims in america.

Listen, stop giving me lectures, and don't get involved with things that don't concern you. I don't care what your age is, it's none of your business. justanobserver started the talk of the Muslim League and the Muslims being the slaves of the British colonialists, I only returned the favor.

 

[justanobserver]

You started the talk of the Muslim League and the Muslims being the slaves of the British colonialists, I only returned the favor.

What else should I call the 'Muslim League' ? That's what the political party was called at that time, not my fault it wasn't called the Pakistani league.
Plus I never mentioned Muslims per se in any of my posts, it's you who jumped on to the 'Hindu' bandwagon (maybe a reflection of your country ?)

I'm not really interested in 'returning favors' and 'owning', I only state the truth. Not my problem if you want to live in your own delusional world

 

[Vinod2070]

The pretensions of some converts are really amusing.