Battlefield Nukes Won't Save Pakistan

[Kompromat]

They have already served their purpose by sending cold starters back to the drawing board.

 

[MadDog]

The writer hasn't taken into account major facts, france had a considerablly smaller army than that of pakistan and USSR had almost 4-5 million troops while in our equation India has 1.3 million approximately active force and Pak has 620,000 , even if u include reserves of both its 2:1 , so french-soviet comparison cant be used here, moreover it was a bi polar world with USSR being one of the super powers, while today 40% of malnourished children are in india, and every one in four malnourished person is in india which has topped in world hunger index, both news reported by times of india, so it is no way close to being a super power, the comparison of 2 scenarios is outright stupid !!!

 

[Storm Force]

Mad dog. Thank you for the statistics of malnourished children. in india.

Lets have some more statics.

Indian GDP of $2.2 TRILLION is 8 times the size of Pakistan.
Indian forex reserves at $356 billion veris Pakistan $15 billion
Indian defense budget $40 billion versis Pakistan $8 billion.

India is noway a SUPER POWER & WILL NEVA be such.

But this country of malnourished people took EAST PAKISTAN in 10 DAYS FLAT.
They hold saichen glacier and Kargil & the water supply.

They are a threat to Pakistan AND wil remain a threat FOR EVER so your nukes are needed.

 

[TankMan]

"Stabilize strategic relations" here means Pakistan stops using terrorists and terrorism as a state policy against India.

No, it means the usual MAD and deterrence. That is stable and normal for India-Pakistan relations. Tactics like India's cold-start doctrine jeopardized that stability. Tactical Nukes have stabilized the strategic relations again.

As for terrorism, you should realize that it is India that has announced its state policy to be terrorism. India has been using terrorists against all its perceived rivals, for decades, before it was in the form of Mukti Bahinis and LTTEs, and now it is BLA and various other groups of scum.

As long as India continues to use these, Pakistan will respond in whichever way it can - whether that be reciprocating in kind or in different ways. India will not get stable strategic relations as long as India continues to use non-state actors.

For now, Pakistan is focused on defending and developing the country while India is doing its best to sabotage it.

 

[Ajai Ghale]

Our Nukes are not just for 2 nations but 2 civilizations.

Secondly India has no territorial ambitions we have enough land and natural resource to make the country prosperous so our nukes are just to preserve the territorial integrity of our country including Kashmir.

 

[The_Sidewinder]

Interesting Read. Battlefield nukes are just a Pakistani detterent against overwhelming Indian conventional superiority. Pakistan wont use them in a limited conflict scenario as any nuke attack will meet full scale Indian retaliation. We are talking extinction level of carnage here. Even if India doesnt retaliate it will be pakistan who will be recieving end of illeffects of radioactive waste for years to come.

 

[tested]

No, it means the usual MAD and deterrence. That is stable and normal for India-Pakistan relations. Tactics like India's cold-start doctrine jeopardized that stability. Tactical Nukes have stabilized the strategic relations again.

As for terrorism, you should realize that it is India that has announced its state policy to be terrorism. India has been using terrorists against all its perceived rivals, for decades, before it was in the form of Mukti Bahinis and LTTEs, and now it is BLA and various other groups of scum.

As long as India continues to use these, Pakistan will respond in whichever way it can - whether that be reciprocating in kind or in different ways. India will not get stable strategic relations as long as India continues to use non-state actors.

For now, Pakistan is focused on defending and developing the country while India is doing its best to sabotage it.

I don't know how you perceived that "India has announced its state policy to be terrorism". Forgive me but I don't hold Pakistanis in high esteem with regard to comprehension skills, you are just confirming a bias here. Read what Parrikar said before these juvenile statements which might work for other Pakistanis desperate to believe everything wrong with them is India's fault, not us - the world community who -for a reason - don't take Pakistan's any accusation seriously...from saying Osama was not in Pakistan to Hillary Clinton giving references to 'breeding snakes to bite your neighbours'.

Our response to using non-state actors was in response to Pakistan using tribals non-state actors in Kashmir right from get go in 1948. And then NE militants in the 60's. And then again sending military as jihadis to start an uprising in 1965 (like the bay of pigs).

We have merely responded though more effectively. And we will continue to respond as long as Pakistan continues its association with Islamist groups.

If Pakistan wishes to continue this, India now after a decade does have a Government that is not unwilling to take hard decisions. The days of having a Pakistan loving Prime Minister have passed, Manmohan single handedly stopped the Indian establishment from doing anything because of his love for Pakistan. That is not happening now onwards.

 

[TankMan]

I don't know how you perceived that "India has announced its state policy to be terrorism".

'Have to Neutralise Terrorists Through Terrorists': Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar
He said the policy is to use terrorism against terrorists, but terrorism means attacking civilians to create fear - so essentially the policy is to kill civilians with the hope that it'll somehow stop terrorists. And since we all know what India's narrative is, it isn't hard to guess whose civilians are going to be targeted for terrorism by India.

Forgive me but I don't hold Pakistanis in high esteem with regard to comprehension skills

My comprehension skills are excellent - if anything, it is your bias that is making you defend Parrikar's statements or it is Parrikar's fault for making statements that can be misinterpreted so easily. Your esteem regarding Pakistanis is irrelevant and worthless to me.

the world community who -for a reason - don't take Pakistan's any accusation seriously...from saying Osama was not in Pakistan to Hillary Clinton giving references to 'breeding snakes to bite your neighbours'.

How long will you Indians feed yourselves this ''world community'' nonsense?

The ''world community'' only cares for its interests. They will 'breed snakes' when they want to fight the Soviets, they will lie about WMDs when they want to invade Iraq, they will defend Israel when they bomb UN schools and they will 'breed' even more 'snakes' when they want to overthrow Assad.

For now, this world community's interests are mostly against Pakistan. Sooner or later, their interests will become against India's. Then they will start taking Pakistan's accusations seriously and the opposite will apply to India.

Their opinion has absolutely nothing to do with reality, truth or justice.

Our response to using non-state actors was in response to Pakistan using tribals non-state actors in Kashmir right from get go in 1948..

We can say the exact same - that our support to proxies was in response to India using proxies to oppress Kashmiris and deny them the right to self-determination. The Kashmiris themselves revolted against their Maharaja; Pakistan only helped them after India ''helped'' the Maharaja by taking over and sending troops.

We have merely responded though more effectively. And we will continue to respond as long as Pakistan continues its association with Islamist groups.

Would you be fine with non-Islamist groups?

You already have plenty of Bodos, Nagas, Maoists and Naxalites. If Pakistan decided to support them, India would have serious problems. But Pakistan hasn't done so, because terrorism is not our policy and we do not intend to destabilize India.

India, on the other hand, has supported every separatist movement and terrorist group that is against the state of Pakistan and has been hell-bent on destabilizing Pakistan.

If Pakistan wishes to continue this, India now after a decade does have a Government that is not unwilling to take hard decisions. The days of having a Pakistan loving Prime Minister have passed, Manmohan single handedly stopped the Indian establishment from doing anything because of his love for Pakistan. That is not happening now onwards.

That is your opinion on your internal politics and I won't dispute that. But know that Pakistan and Pakistan's security forces will do everything to defend itself from India's onslaught and will ensure that India's efforts to sabotage Pakistan's economic development fail.

 

[SQ8]

Basically , the time is coming down for Pakistan to essentially use it or lose it.

There needs to be massive nuclear conflict with India with everything we have thrown at them and vice versa. It is the only way for the subcontinent to move forward.