Battle of Longewala- This day...41 years ago!

[sachin@india]

the best thing about pak army is that after every debacle and humiliating losss htey don't reveal any inquiry or commission report.. which ofcourse bring down the moral of the army... this says enough about the bravery of PA.

 

[kurup]

Reel Heroes Of Border Who Depicted Real Heroes Of Laungewala !

 

[Varunastra]

I dont think that figures are unrealistic. A well trenched platoon can hold/delay a large size army.What major kuldeep singh's 120 men did was to hold on larger pakistani force till next daylight. Same thing like kasab and hi men did -they held whole of mumbai police force,navy MARCOS,NSG,ARMY etc for whole 3 days by being well entrenched in hotel taj and at chabbad house.

The Taj palace hotel is a hotel of historic interest and the terrorists also had civilian prisoners and it was in the heart of mumbai city,you can't compare that with the battle of longewala l where there were only military men with no civilians around with only a bunker for protection......if terrorists were in a position where the indian army was in longewala we would have bombed the whole place and the case would have been closed in a few hours or so but the Indian army with the airforce with sheer courage and determination had forced an entire tank regiment with 8000 soldiers to flee when all the odds were stacked against them .
I salute those brave men

 

[Varunastra]

tank tracks left by the pakistan army tanks while they were trying to flee

 

[PRINCE_THE_SHOWSTOPPER]

Thats valour deserves more awards and appreciation than the battle of longewala.
comparison can be made in a sense if i make valor of Brigadir Tajammul Malik as sun then Major kuldip singh chandpuri's valour will be like a lamp.

how can u compare the two..battle of hilli was fought in the hills and longewalla in the deserts of rajasthan??? they were a more strategically advanced position ehan the indian soldiers at longewalla

 

[karan.1970]

Thats valour deserves more awards and appreciation than the battle of longewala.
comparison can be made in a sense if i make valor of Brigadir Tajammul Malik as sun then Major kuldip singh chandpuri's valour will be like a lamp.

Its ironical that despite being having the Sun of valor, Pakistan loses the battle and despite only having a lamp of valor in comparison, India still ends up winning it

 

[dekho]

Kashmir is still with us, East Pakistan is gone and Bangladesh was created, also we hold Siachin - this is a classic example of strategic and geopolitical victory. Longewala, Karachi bombardment and 90000 POWs were cherry on top.

Give them nothing but take from them everything.

 

[Shinigami]

The same can be said otherwise.
The reality is in the middle.. from the mouths of those that actually fought it..
and these accounts should not have passed through the garbage can of the propaganda machines.

i would put my faith in indian assessments, because they tend to be truthful as the indian military, like its government is transparent and all its mistakes are talked about and analyzed unlike Pakistan. (words of a PA colonel not mine http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history-strategy/26461-pakistan-army-1965-1971-a.html)

 

[Erhabi]

Any Indian here know about Battle of Hilli? If yes thn why jumping over this small battle? it happens rite?

 

[karan.1970]

Any Indian here know about Battle of Hilli? If yes thn why jumping over this small battle? it happens rite?

Because that small battle is the topic of this thread.. You want to talk about another battle, open another thread

 

[The_magnificent]

Any Indian here know about Battle of Hilli? If yes thn why jumping over this small battle? it happens rite?

we know very well. how you people could do nothing there. ok tell us your version of battle of hilli and please backen it with neutral source of information . not with some random blogs of pakistani chest thumping lie websites

 

[Erhabi]

we know very well. how you people could do nothing there. ok tell us your version of battle of hilli and please backen it with neutral source of information . not with some random blogs of pakistani chest thumping lie websites

Battle of Hilli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The battle

The main objective of the Indian Army was to control Bogra, thereby cutting off Pakistan forces in the north from the rest of East Pakistan. The best way of getting to Bogra was through Hilli. The frontal assault on the Pakistan fortifications took a huge toll on both sides before Indian forces finally broke through by establishing a block in the read of Pakistani forces in Hilli, upon which the 4FF Battalion in Hilli was withdrew for the defence of Bogra.
[edit]Indian forces
The Indian side consisted of the 20 Indian Mountain Division led by Maj-Gen. Lachhman Singh. The constituent units of this division were 66 Brigade, 165 Brigade, 202 Brigade and 340 Brigade (all infantry units), 3 Armoured Brigade, 471 Engineer Brigade and two artillery brigades augmented by 33 Corps Artillery. The ground troops were aided by aerial support provided by the Indian Air Force which had acquired air superiority in the east and were armed with rockets, guns and 100 lb bombs.
[edit]Pakistani forces
On the Pakistan side, the Area of Responsibility (AOR) was on 205 Brigade of Pakistan Army led by Brigadier (later retired as Major General) Tajammul Hussain Malik. He had joined the brigade 4 days ago, when he volunteered to leave GHQ, Rawalpindi and command troops in the East Pakistan. He put up a stiff resistance that earned praise from many quarters.

 

[acetophenol]

Battle of Hilli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The battle

The main objective of the Indian Army was to control Bogra, thereby cutting off Pakistan forces in the north from the rest of East Pakistan. The best way of getting to Bogra was through Hilli. The frontal assault on the Pakistan fortifications took a huge toll on both sides before Indian forces finally broke through by establishing a block in the read of Pakistani forces in Hilli, upon which the 4FF Battalion in Hilli was withdrew for the defence of Bogra.
[edit]Indian forces
The Indian side consisted of the 20 Indian Mountain Division led by Maj-Gen. Lachhman Singh. The constituent units of this division were 66 Brigade, 165 Brigade, 202 Brigade and 340 Brigade (all infantry units), 3 Armoured Brigade, 471 Engineer Brigade and two artillery brigades augmented by 33 Corps Artillery. The ground troops were aided by aerial support provided by the Indian Air Force which had acquired air superiority in the east and were armed with rockets, guns and 100 lb bombs.
[edit]Pakistani forces
On the Pakistan side, the Area of Responsibility (AOR) was on 205 Brigade of Pakistan Army led by Brigadier (later retired as Major General) Tajammul Hussain Malik. He had joined the brigade 4 days ago, when he volunteered to leave GHQ, Rawalpindi and command troops in the East Pakistan. He put up a stiff resistance that earned praise from many quarters.

I hope you did read the full wiki article

 

[The_magnificent]

Battle of Hilli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The battle

The main objective of the Indian Army was to control Bogra, thereby cutting off Pakistan forces in the north from the rest of East Pakistan. The best way of getting to Bogra was through Hilli. The frontal assault on the Pakistan fortifications took a huge toll on both sides before Indian forces finally broke through by establishing a block in the read of Pakistani forces in Hilli, upon which the 4FF Battalion in Hilli was withdrew for the defence of Bogra.
[edit]Indian forces
The Indian side consisted of the 20 Indian Mountain Division led by Maj-Gen. Lachhman Singh. The constituent units of this division were 66 Brigade, 165 Brigade, 202 Brigade and 340 Brigade (all infantry units), 3 Armoured Brigade, 471 Engineer Brigade and two artillery brigades augmented by 33 Corps Artillery. The ground troops were aided by aerial support provided by the Indian Air Force which had acquired air superiority in the east and were armed with rockets, guns and 100 lb bombs.
[edit]Pakistani forces
On the Pakistan side, the Area of Responsibility (AOR) was on 205 Brigade of Pakistan Army led by Brigadier (later retired as Major General) Tajammul Hussain Malik. He had joined the brigade 4 days ago, when he volunteered to leave GHQ, Rawalpindi and command troops in the East Pakistan. He put up a stiff resistance that earned praise from many quarters.

And ?? You won the battle ? What so special you did ? you people were caught pants down and later surrendered. Anything special ?

You people just going gaga by saying Sun moon lamp examples. Here is what your source say about it.

Malik had placed screens along the railway line nearby and at the Railway Station complex in the area. The defensive positions were sited in depth to cover all routes leading into East Pakistan. They fought the entire Indian division and the Mukti Bahini soldiers until the Indians decided to bypass Hilli and establish a block in its rear. Brig. Malik then withdrew the forces in Hilli to avoid being cut off and to defend for the Bogra itself.
Bogra was surrounded from all sides by the greater numbers of the Indian army and the Mukti Bahini. Brig. Malik's resistance continued even after the Pakistani Eastern Command surrendered in Dacca on 16 December. He, in his staff car with flags and stars uncovered went around the streets of Bogra motivating his soldiers to keep fighting. The Indian army had by then, surrounded the city of Bogra. The Brigade Major along with some 50 ORs surrendered but the Brigadier still full of vigour refused to give up.
Brig. Malik ordered the rest of his brigade to break out in small groups to Naogong, where one of his units was still fighting on. However en-route, his jeep was ambushed, severely injuring him and his orderly. Muktis captured both of them and subjected them to torture. They broke his arms and split his head after which he was taken semi-conscious to an Indian army hospital. Major General Nazar Hussain Shah, was especially flown in from Natore for the surrender of this brigade on 18 December 1971, due to the refusal of Brigadier Malik. Upon return from captivity, he was the only brigadier out of 32 or so who fought the 1971 War in East Pakistan to have been promoted to Major General rank.

This is so funny how you people take pride in surrender, humiliation, being tortured and loosing battle. What so special you did here? Other thn being tortured n Spitted on face by bengalis

I hope you did read the full wiki article

No he didn't he was taught another version of the article by his madarrsa, media, family on regular basis which resides deep down his heart. lies to save thmself from being ashamed

 

[Erhabi]

And ?? You won the battle ? What so special you did ? you people were caught pants down and later surrendered. Anything special ?

You people just going gaga by saying Sun moon lamp examples. Here is what your source say about it.

Malik had placed screens along the railway line nearby and at the Railway Station complex in the area. The defensive positions were sited in depth to cover all routes leading into East Pakistan. They fought the entire Indian division and the Mukti Bahini soldiers until the Indians decided to bypass Hilli and establish a block in its rear. Brig. Malik then withdrew the forces in Hilli to avoid being cut off and to defend for the Bogra itself.
Bogra was surrounded from all sides by the greater numbers of the Indian army and the Mukti Bahini. Brig. Malik's resistance continued even after the Pakistani Eastern Command surrendered in Dacca on 16 December. He, in his staff car with flags and stars uncovered went around the streets of Bogra motivating his soldiers to keep fighting. The Indian army had by then, surrounded the city of Bogra. The Brigade Major along with some 50 ORs surrendered but the Brigadier still full of vigour refused to give up.
Brig. Malik ordered the rest of his brigade to break out in small groups to Naogong, where one of his units was still fighting on. However en-route, his jeep was ambushed, severely injuring him and his orderly. Muktis captured both of them and subjected them to torture. They broke his arms and split his head after which he was taken semi-conscious to an Indian army hospital. Major General Nazar Hussain Shah, was especially flown in from Natore for the surrender of this brigade on 18 December 1971, due to the refusal of Brigadier Malik. Upon return from captivity, he was the only brigadier out of 32 or so who fought the 1971 War in East Pakistan to have been promoted to Major General rank.

This is so funny how you people take pride in surrender, humiliation, being tortured and loosing battle. What so special you did here? Other thn being tortured n Spitted on face by bengalis



No he didn't he was taught another version of the article by his madarrsa, media, family on regular basis which resides deep down his heart. lies to save thmself from being ashamed

Ashamed? why wud I be ashamed of some malnourished Indians and Bengalis?..you belong to a back stabbing nation...taking pride on how your army took advantage of civil war in Pakistan..wish our army did the same to your country when in 1962 Chinese forces were spitting and raping your malnourished army..

I hope you did read the full wiki article

and I hope you read it too...it was not a one night battle like Longewala...much longer and brutal thn tht..its amazing how PA fought such a large army and local Mukti Bani forces.. wish we had more officers like Tajamul Hussain at tht time