Battagram people seek expulsion of Afghans

[hotaki]

Have you ever interacted with afghans?

They're pretty racist.

Just use google and you'll articles on the rare Pakistanis that happened to go to afghanistan were either mistreated or killed just cause they're Pakistani.

Forget Google and have the confidence to make your own judgement, i have relatives across the border like many of my people and believe me none has been inhospitable or anything such, we speak the same language same blood runs through our vains.

I have no issues with afghans and they are welcome in millions in to kp and balochistan and if beyond that they are not welcome then i respect that decision.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

WTF!!! Why you people don't kick the a$$ of these aggressors

it is unbelievable that afghans have become so daring that they snatching lands from local pashtuns of batagram. There are also afghans in my area, but are under strict control, perhaps due to intact tribal structure in my area which is absent in batagram.
Afghans are hard working people , but they are always limited to small businesses as they have temper issues, are rude customers.
In my area some afghans are involved in stealing , kidnapping childrens, smuggling etc. The ones caught are expelled by jirga.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Forget Google and have the confidence to make your own judgement, i have relatives across the border like many of my people and believe me none has been inhospitable or anything such, we speak the same language same blood runs through our vains.

I have no issues with afghans and they are welcome in millions in to kp and balochistan and if beyond that they are not welcome then i respect that decision.

hotakis belong to afghanistan, but you have mentioned your location as kp...?
People of batagram are not punjabis, sindis or balochs, they are pashtuns and they have problems with afghans...so you should understand that pashtuns of pakistan are growing tired of those afghans who dont respect local people, customs and laws...
pakistanis here are very civilized , otherwise check afghan forums where extremely hateful and racist comments are thrown against pakistanis.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Apparently if a Pakistani ever goes to afghanistan (which is probably pretty rare) they are treated horribly just cause they are Pakistani

you are right. My father works in pakistani embassy in herat, he is pashto speaker and is fluent in dari. He knows ways to keep himself safe, otherwise if you are revealed as pakistani then your life can be in danger. Even pakistani pashtuns are limited to open businesses in jalalabad and at maximum in kabul which are very close to border. They cant imagine going to north afghanistan, they would be probably skinned alive. But in pakistan afghan of every ethnicity is roaming freely.

 

[haviZsultan]

you are right. My father works in pakistani embassy in herat, he is pashto speaker and is fluent in dari. He knows ways to keep himself safe, otherwise if you are revealed as pakistani then your life can be in danger. Even pakistani pashtuns are limited to open businesses in jalalabad and at maximum in kabul which are very close to border. They cant imagine going to north afghanistan, they would be probably skinned alive. But in pakistan afghan of every ethnicity is roaming freely.

The Afghans have begun hating Pakistanis because of the 1980's when we supported the mujahideen. Looking back we should never have interfered in that country. The relationship between Afghans and Pakistanis should have been of brotherhood and friendship. Instead it has been viciously poisoned. I have seen the attitudes towards Pakistanis. They use the word 'Pakistani' as a negative term. The word Punjabi is the second worst word. They are used as insults.

I would also like to add that the WOT is also alienating Pashtuns within Pakistan. We could care less about Afghans but the thing is the government really needs to look after the interests of the Pashtun who is dying due to
1) Terrorism and Taliban killings
2) Collateral damage from helicopter gunships, artillery bombardment and airstrikes which are killing innocent Pakistani Pashtuns
3) Drone strikes and attacks of Americans.

The current Pakistani government does not have the interests of the Pashtun in mind. In reality to win the WOT winning over the Pashtuns is most important because these areas are the worst struck.

 

[haviZsultan]

Forget Google and have the confidence to make your own judgement, i have relatives across the border like many of my people and believe me none has been inhospitable or anything such, we speak the same language same blood runs through our vains.

I have no issues with afghans and they are welcome in millions in to kp and balochistan and if beyond that they are not welcome then i respect that decision.

People from FATA have long demanded the Afghans be expelled from their regions. Pashtun Nationalists usually don't want this or those with relatives across the border.

But I respect your opinions. Most of the Afghans are concentrated in KP and FATA. Its up to the people of KP and FATA to decide whether Afghans should remain or should go.

 

[iPhone]

Apparently if a Pakistani ever goes to afghanistan (which is probably pretty rare) they are treated horribly just cause they are Pakistani

Which is why I say they should go to their most "well wishers" aka indians. India will accept them with open arms.

 

[darkinsky]

Not Some but many of them are criminals kidnappers ..Kidnapping people from Peshawar and other parts of KPK.And after collecting money from them they go there.I my self arrested one Kidnapper from that Afghani Camps with the help of KPK Police.who wa also involved in my cousin killing.

WTF??

you are right. My father works in pakistani embassy in herat, he is pashto speaker and is fluent in dari. He knows ways to keep himself safe, otherwise if you are revealed as pakistani then your life can be in danger. Even pakistani pashtuns are limited to open businesses in jalalabad and at maximum in kabul which are very close to border. They cant imagine going to north afghanistan, they would be probably skinned alive. But in pakistan afghan of every ethnicity is roaming freely.

and you still support afghanis right, monkey??

The Afghans have begun hating Pakistanis because of the 1980's when we supported the mujahideen. Looking back we should never have interfered in that country. The relationship between Afghans and Pakistanis should have been of brotherhood and friendship. Instead it has been viciously poisoned. I have seen the attitudes towards Pakistanis. They use the word 'Pakistani' as a negative term. The word Punjabi is the second worst word. They are used as insults.

I would also like to add that the WOT is also alienating Pashtuns within Pakistan. We could care less about Afghans but the thing is the government really needs to look after the interests of the Pashtun who is dying due to
1) Terrorism and Taliban killings
2) Collateral damage from helicopter gunships, artillery bombardment and airstrikes which are killing innocent Pakistani Pashtuns
3) Drone strikes and attacks of Americans.

The current Pakistani government does not have the interests of the Pashtun in mind. In reality to win the WOT winning over the Pashtuns is most important because these areas are the worst struck.

so they hate us because we helped liberating their country??

 

[hotaki]

hotakis belong to afghanistan, but you have mentioned your location as kp...?
People of batagram are not punjabis, sindis or balochs, they are pashtuns and they have problems with afghans...so you should understand that pashtuns of pakistan are growing tired of those afghans who dont respect local people, customs and laws...
pakistanis here are very civilized , otherwise check afghan forums where extremely hateful and racist comments are thrown against pakistanis.

Very true hotakis belong to Afghanistan but so do most clans of pushtoons, you will find afridis, mohmands etc etc in Afghanistan as well as Pakistan so now does that mean because Hotakis are in Afghanistan that the inestimable in Pakistan are not Pakistani? Great logic pat yourself on the back.

Every pukhtoon is loyal to Pakistan, we never burnt its flag like some, we fought for every inch of it, we helped liberate azad kashmir and i can go on and on.

Pakistanis including my self are lazy always willing to blame someone else for their problems, in the west i have travelled much and even in the middle east and saw Bengali and others with great businesses and very ambitious , the only ambition i saw of the pakistanis us to be a TAXI DRIVER, now this clearly shows our mentality.

If million Of people can come and settle in Pakistan and have no ancestral connection with this land, why can not some afghan come when he has ancestral connection with this land, heck whose brothers land makes up mire then half of Pakistan.

 

[Pukhtoon]

WTF??

Sounds Funny Eeeeeeeeeeh ?

But its true i went there i stayed there with friends for three days and in last i caught him.And then we called the PoliCe.

Now

 

[Dance]

The Afghans have begun hating Pakistanis because of the 1980's when we supported the mujahideen.

No they have "hated" us since 1947. They were the only country to oppose Pakistan into the UN in the 40's ( not even India did such a thing) and their "army" tried to invade FATA/Khyber-P in the 60's (but we humiliated them and they ran back to afghanistan)

 

[SHAMK9]

hotakis belong to afghanistan, but you have mentioned your location as kp...?
People of batagram are not punjabis, sindis or balochs, they are pashtuns and they have problems with afghans...so you should understand that pashtuns of pakistan are growing tired of those afghans who dont respect local people, customs and laws...
pakistanis here are very civilized , otherwise check afghan forums where extremely hateful and racist comments are thrown against pakistanis.

most of us are swatis

 

[Dance]

you are right. My father works in pakistani embassy in herat, he is pashto speaker and is fluent in dari. He knows ways to keep himself safe, otherwise if you are revealed as pakistani then your life can be in danger. Even pakistani pashtuns are limited to open businesses in jalalabad and at maximum in kabul which are very close to border. They cant imagine going to north afghanistan, they would be probably skinned alive. But in pakistan afghan of every ethnicity is roaming freely.

Wow.

There such a stark difference between us and them. But I'm assuming theres not too many Pakistanis in afghanistan to begin with right? Aside from working in the Pakistani embassies and stuff like that

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

when i was residing in Turkiye, our Pakistani Ambassador in Ankara was Tariq Azizuddin -- who was the former Pakistani Ambassador in Kabul. He was the one who was kidnapped and held in captivity.

Man he told me many stories about that episode. Being a Qizilbash - he knew both Pashto and Farsi and luckily this was to his advantage.

Wow.

There such a stark difference between us and them. But I'm assuming theres not too many Pakistanis in afghanistan to begin with right? Aside from working in the Pakistani embassies and stuff like that

we even have labourers who went there for work! Ironic isnt it.

the pay was good because NATO-backed contractors are the ones floating in cash in that country --though i think that will all change once NATO abandons Afghanistan.

hotakis belong to afghanistan, but you have mentioned your location as kp...?
People of batagram are not punjabis, sindis or balochs, they are pashtuns and they have problems with afghans...so you should understand that pashtuns of pakistan are growing tired of those afghans who dont respect local people, customs and laws...
pakistanis here are very civilized , otherwise check afghan forums where extremely hateful and racist comments are thrown against pakistanis.

I've defended Pakistan in comments sections and other forums in the past....and as a Pashtun, they were labelling me a ''black Punjabi agent'' and the usual rhetoric like that

you should remember though that many times indian trolls go in large numbers and join those forums...other times it's just overseas Afghans who have been brainwashed -- in fact many of them have never even stepped foot in Afghanistan once in their life nor do they know Darri, Pashto or any of the other local languages.


so that alone says a lot

 

[Dance]

I've defended Pakistan in comments sections and other forums in the past....and as a Pashtun, they were labelling me a ''black Punjabi agent'' and the usual rhetoric like that

I don't get what they have against Punjabis...but then again they hate each other too Tajik VS Pasthuns, Hazara VS Pasthuns, Tajik VS Hazara, etc. No wonder they're in such a mess