Barelvis created Pakistan, Shias liberated Iran and Deobandis conquered Afghanistan. What have the Indian Muslims achieved?

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

So Indian Muslims, who have nothing (monetary or defense wise) compared to Pakistani Muslims, are expected to fight back and get slaughtered, but Pakistan Muslims get a pass by citing GDP and Defense figures?

Despite the odds heavily stacked against Pakistan, indians will NOT dare mess with Pakistan or Pakistanis. They know EXACTLY what we will do to them regardless.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Just a question, why do Pakistanis exaggerate whenever something wrong with a muslim happens in India? I’m asking this because muslims in India are not innocents either, In India you‘ll find criminals of all religions, in Kerala a few muslims burnt of christians for selling jhatka meat a few days back, India has a mob lynching problem which is as well as not always religiously motivated, if someone is caught stealing then Indians will lynch him this is how it works here unfortunately. India’s society is different from Pakistan. Just a few cases out of 1.4 Billion population in a multi religious society should not lead to generalisation. yes law and order still needs a revamp but the bigger problem is education, in eastern states Right Wing and Left Wing extremism clashes and that’s why they’re still banana states interested in saving hindus from jihadis and muslims from sanghis. Kerala does not see such things because most of the illiterate go out for work to Gulf.

Your country, your issue, you shouldn't care what anyone in the world thinks- god has granted you that land to do as you wish

Just like Pakistanis never care, when something against minorities happen in Pak we have conversations, get angry, annoyed whatever

But most of the time never care about what the Indians or rest of the world are saying

 

[Varunastra]

Despite the odds heavily stacked against Pakistan, indians will NOT dare mess with Pakistan or Pakistanis. They know EXACTLY what we will do to them regardless.

Cliché by now but... 1971

 

[El Sidd]

The thread and title is absurd. It’s illogical.

Don’t know why associate any sect with any such ?

Governments have everything to lose if people unite.

it's government policy. i won't be surprised if Fuwwad said this

 

[doorstar]

You forgot Dr.Zakar Naik?
He is converting huge number of hindus in Islam.

do you know what Muawiyahi islam is?

Irfan Baloch do you remember me sending you some video links of zakir regarding yazeed malhoon?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Tired of these ummah f*** making the whole world responsibility of Pak from Afghanistan to Palestine to now this s***

In terms of international relations, this thinking has REALLY had a negative impact on Pakistan over the last 45 years. Thankfully, the good news is that less and less Pakistanis are now thinking like this.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Despite the odds heavily stacked against Pakistan, indians will NOT dare mess with Pakistan or Pakistanis. They know EXACTLY what we will do to them regardless.

And we are fine by that, you chose India
Good or bad, sad or happy, it's your country, you are a hopefully proud son of that land

Now you have to deal with it alone, just like Hindus or christians of Pak or Bangladesh shouldn't expect India to interfere in the affairs of other soviergn countries

Cause they know in the case of Pak atleast, India will get a big middle finger

 

[El Sidd]

Tired of these ummah f*** making the whole world responsibility of Pak from Afghanistan to Palestine to now this s***

In terms of international relations, this thinking has REALLY had a negative impact on Pakistan over the last 45 years. Thankfully, the good news is that less and less Pakistanis are now thinking like this.

Kabhi milna kisi thread me khushbu laga ke.

 

[srshkmr]

Barelvis created Pakistan, Shias liberated Iran and Deobandis conquered Afghanistan. What have the Indian Muslims achieved?
Wednesday 25 August 2021

It is said that the population of India's Muslims is larger than the entire population of Pakistan which is around 230 million.

While Pakistan has become a formidable nation in just 73-years after it's citizens chose an independent and sovereign state for themselves, India's Muslims on the other hand are simply known as second class citizens in their own country, India.

The only things Indian Muslims are known for today are things such as facing daily persecution, beaten up in the streets at the hands of Hindu Extremists, forcible conversion to Hindusm, loss of citizenship and threaten with forced migration to Muslim nations, forced to sing Indian unity songs, their history and culture trampled upon, living with fear, intimidation, abduction and violence, their women auctioned on social media and are told they exist in India only due to the mercy of the Hindu majority. These are just some of things associated with this minority group and there's nothing to be proud of.

The forefathers of today's Indian Muslims, numbered much less than the 230 million, yet they conquered Bar-e-Saghir for a thousand years pretty much unchallenged, but their offsprings today can not even walk outside their homes without the fear of being lynched just for being a Muslim. Some who manage to reach higher positions are forced to regularly chant anti-Pakistan slogans (and now also anti-Taliban) just to prove their loyalty to their Hindu rulers.

Why are the Indian Muslims living like this? Is it a choice or cowardice?

The Qur'an teaches us that a Muslim is an Ambassador of Allah in this world. He must have honour, self-respect, dignity and valour.

Before the conquest of Makkah, the early Muslims while performing their Hajj were instructed to do the tawaf with their heads bowed down in humility but stick out their chests so that the Kuffaar watching them do not presume they are weak.

Liberated Bangladesh

 

[jamahir]

They created the likes of Che @jamahir a revolutionary communist, who liberated the vast swamps of the southern continent and created a paradise for Muslims, where they are not lynched in broad daylight, and its women are free to roam safely in the streets like if it was their home.

Actually, if many of the modern middle-class Indian Muslims ( in the last 20 years ) had actively looked at the progressive, leftist spirit among Indian Muslims in earlier decades and outside India ( like your own Faiz Ahmed Faiz ), instead of either becoming brainwashed by the Tablighi Jamaat and enlarging it, or becoming busy in the Capitalist Indian race of college degree, job and family life and instead made themselves really educated, and if the upper-class Indian Muslims ( like Azim Premji ) supported this instead of isolating themselves in boxes the Indian Muslims would have had a better social, economic and political position now.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Cliché by now but... 1971

EXACTLY!........You proved my point. 50 years ago in 1971, it took over 750,000 indian soldiers supported by 1 million armed bangladeshi militia men to gather the courage to take on 45,000 lightly armed PA soldiers who were stranded more than 2500 kms from their mainland and who had less than a week's worth of ammunition. That is EXACTLY why on india's western border, the indian military has never been able to taken on Pakistan despite being more than 7× bigger and having the full backing of the West and Russia.


bangladesh is not even 1/6 or 17% the size of Pakistan. Talking about 1971 is like saying August the 14th 1947 was the biggest tragedy in india's history as it lost nearly 40% of it's territory in the creation of Pakistan.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

They do this.
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Whats wrong in this I fail to understand

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

You forgot Dr.Zakar Naik?
He is converting huge number of hindus in Islam.

Irfan Baloch do you remember me sending you some video links of zakir regarding yazeed malhoon?

I know about that matter.
His son was given some notes by Eng.Muhammad Ali Mirza.His son went to Dr.Zakar and Dr.Zakar was convinced that Yazeed was involved .
There was some difference in thoughts only not that he was anti Imam Hussain (رضی اللّٰہ عنہ)

 

[Asimzranger]

Whats wrong in this I fail to understand

 

[Varunastra]

Whats wrong in this I fail to understand

Secular mindset is not present in Pakistani dictionary

EXACTLY!........You proved my point. 50 years ago in 1971, it took over 750,000 indian soldiers supported by 1 million armed bangladeshi militia men to gather the courage to take on 45,000 lightly armed PA soldiers who were stranded more than 2500 kms from their mainland and who had less than a week's worth of ammunition. That is EXACTLY why on india's western border, the indian military has never been able to taken on Pakistan despite being more than 7× bigger and having the full backing of the West and Russia.


bangladesh is not even 1/6 or 17% the size of Pakistan. Talking about 1971 is like saying August the 14th 1947 was the biggest tragedy in india's history as it lost nearly 40% of it's territory in the creation of Pakistan.

Why we never took on Pakistan is because we never wanted to get Pakistan. If we really wanted Pakistan we would have crossed international boundary on 1947.Realistically we took some princely states by force didn't we? Could Pakistan stop us? No! We were honouring our boundaries and didn't want bloodshed where it can be avoided.
East Pakistan was a historic wrong which we corrected.