Barak-8 is India's answer to Pakistan's Harpoon Anti-Ship Missile

[surya kiran]

also a basic gps idea can be brought into this, to sort of bring it to its simple terms. when you use a gps, the satellite knows where you are on-demend. now for military purposes it can simply know where you are and relay that to the a control station and the nearest offensive platform to engage it. and the range of gps is VERY accurate. have you used a gps to find where to need to go?

Hi,

Sorry. But GPS satellites simply cannot pinpoint a target, unless something else tags it. There is no 'return' path for the GPS to know where the signal is going. GPS satellites only transmit.

So unless you have a return path which will require 3 components

1. The device being tracked needs to transmit the data
2. A network is needed for the data to be transmitted
3. A device is needed to decode the data.

 

[Windjammer]

aapki maths with common sense is world class on PDF ...

Aur Indians PDF per apni knowledge ka chamakar karney atey hai'n.

LOL @ your knowledge & rip to logic

We know you people get all frivolous on a Pakistani forum but do try and contain yourself.

 

[Mitro]

It will all Depend on strategy how the weapons system is used and it may be mix of missile firing with torpedoes and cruise missile like a salvos good luck defending against that.

 

[amardeep mishra]

I don't really think anyone would even be interested in my technical analysis hence I won't comment

 

[Blue Marlin]

Hi,

Sorry. But GPS satellites simply cannot pinpoint a target, unless something else tags it. There is no 'return' path for the GPS to know where the signal is going. GPS satellites only transmit.

So unless you have a return path which will require 3 components

1. The device being tracked needs to transmit the data
2. A network is needed for the data to be transmitted
3. A device is needed to decode the data.

i think you need to revisit my posts. i shall explain in a more simplified manner.
the first satellite that will actually be searching for targets. is the gaofen-1 searching satellite. once it has identified a object/target it location will be given to a c&c and the baidu gps system. the goafen and the Baidu will simultaneously talk to each other until the gps has a locked on the target and is tracking it. once tracked, necessary action will be taken to deal with the object/target. in regards to decoding. the communication will obviously be encrypted. to what standard i dont know, and even if i did i would not tell you.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

I don't really think anyone would even be interested in my technical analysis hence I won't comment

Why do you say like that- I would like to read what you have to say- please go ahead-

 

[GURU DUTT]

I don't really think anyone would even be interested in my technical analysis hence I won't comment

sirji they are actually not as educated as yourself sir

please share your views in non technical language

 

[Green Angel]

....Enough for Barak 8 .

 

[surya kiran]

i think you need to revisit my posts. i shall explain in a more simplified manner.
the first satellite that will actually be searching for targets. is the gaofen-1 searching satellite. once it has identified a object/target it location will be given to a c&c and the baidu gps system. the goafen and the Baidu will simultaneously talk to each other until the gps has a locked on the target and is tracking it. once tracked, necessary action will be taken to deal with the object/target. in regards to decoding. the communication will obviously be encrypted. to what standard i dont know, and even if i did i would not tell you.

I understand with what you are saying. But, the basic premise that GPS can track an object, which you seem to mention again "GPS has a lock on the target is tracking it" is impossible. Here is why,

1. The visual tracking is by Gaofen-1 as you put it. Now, how does it get the co-ordinates of a moving target? Impossible, unless it has an operator who is manually tracking it and keeping the target 'in focus'.

2. This information has to be passed on to a GIS system which will then overlay the imagery on a spatial data system. This will provide the co-ordinates. Now, for this you will need the image data already existing in your GIS database.

3. Once this data is received, the target data is then fed into the targeting system which is then relayed to the missile.

As you can see, in all the above, the GPS does not 'tracking'. It is only a provider of time stamps. What is done is once, the missile is launched the onboard navigation system will use its Beidou chip to tell itself where it is. And then make course corrections. If it has Tercom all the more better.

Hope this explains.

 

[GURU DUTT]

....Enough for Barak 8 .

already been taken care of google AAD, PAD & S300PMU & S400

 

[surya kiran]

I don't really think anyone would even be interested in my technical analysis hence I won't comment

There are enough people here, who would be interested in reading. Please do post.

 

[Harisudan]

Yes common sense seems short in supply when you take into account trying to detect and intercept a missile travelling at hypersonic speed with Barak-8 trying to intercept with a range of less than 100km.

Your sarcastic response only makes you look like a Kid ..
The only advantage the Chinese missile has is that it will give little reaction time to track down and launch a precise anti Missile attack and also with its low RCS by the time the Baraks lock on and launch, it will have mostly 20 to 30 seconds to destroy which makes it all the more potent .. The kill rate is high when a salvo of Baraks are launched against the incoming target.. Answering your sarcastic respnse, 100 Km range is more than enough for targeting and destroying a supersonic anti ship missile theoretically.. But practically inorder to ensure the kill we need atleast two Baraks launched, that's all.. Inorder to explain this your common sense was short on supply, wasn't it??? Nice..

 

[egodoc222]

its also used to detect targets strategic missiles also incorporate the beidu gps, also chinese cruise missiles also incorporate the tech too. look at the images below thats the range of the gps. why do you think it covers all of india's coast line and the bay of bengal? china could have decreased the range so it can fit in china in the space of a cube. but it chose to cover a large part of asia including a lot of its adversary.
also a basic gps idea can be brought into this, to sort of bring it to its simple terms. when you use a gps, the satellite knows where you are on-demend. now for military purposes it can simply know where you are and relay that to the a control station and the nearest offensive platform to engage it. and the range of gps is VERY accurate. have you used a gps to find where to need to go?

You are getting confused between navigational guidance with homing guidance!!
Google it and read...!

 

[BABA AGHORI]

i think you need to revisit my posts. i shall explain in a more simplified manner.
the first satellite that will actually be searching for targets. is the gaofen-1 searching satellite. once it has identified a object/target it location will be given to a c&c and the baidu gps system. the goafen and the Baidu will simultaneously talk to each other until the gps has a locked on the target and is tracking it. once tracked, necessary action will be taken to deal with the object/target. in regards to decoding. the communication will obviously be encrypted. to what standard i dont know, and even if i did i would not tell you.

The target/device has to transmit data over a medium to another system, so that it can be tracked. Goafen and Baidu can talk what ever they want, but they cannot track a moving object. Goafen can only locate the object at a given point of time and Baidu will give the coordinates. As a ship is a moving target, in minutes the target will be off coordinates and that's it. Baidu cannot do anything and these system cannot track any further.

 

[Imran Khan]

Barak-8 speed is Mach 2 whereas CM-400AKG speed is Mach 4