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Key to speaking English well is to speak it often with others who have decent proficiency..


I used to speak like the average Indian expat until a couple years ago.. when I started played online games, I would spend atleast 6 hours or 7 hours in voice chat with Englishmen..

It hit me that speaking English merely isn't enough, communication is about getting your message across to the other party and if you can't speak English in a manner that is legible to them then it's as if you don't know English at all. This is the case with Bangladeshis who claim to 'speak' English.


Anyway , I just listened to how they speak (the Englishmen) and tried to replicate it..


It's not just how they enunciate their syllables.. it's also their sentence structure..


The sentence structure taught to me by Indian schools was so... Simplistic.. it lacked any flavour whatsoever, like speaking English for the sake of it.



I guess what I'm trying to say is.. if you want to master a language, listen to native speakers speak.


That brings me back to my point, BD kids couldn't give a flying **** about fixing their English they're busy singing Teri meri and so on...


I can read and write Hindi, when I revealed this info to my relatively young cousins they thought I was a God and all of them wanted to hear me speak it..

I ask... Why this thirst for Hindi but not for English ? The world wonders

Hindi brainwashing in Bangladesh has been ongoing in full force, to say the least. Thanks to Zee etc.

Speaking Hindi will only make us Indian slaves. Shameful when you consider our own Bangla literature is no less diverse and rich than that of Hindi.

We need to speak English.
 
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Hindi brainwashing in Bangladesh has been ongoing in full force, to say the least. Thanks to Zee etc.

Speaking Hindi will only make us Indian slaves. Shameful when you consider our own Bangla literature is no less diverse and rich than that of Hindi.

We need to speak English.


You may learn Hindi, if you so wish to do so... Knowing more languages is always a good thing.


But English must be given priority.. I think this should go without saying.



And watching TV serials isn't even the right way of learning Hindi, more to do with being a
pretentious douchebag.
Guess that's with a lot of us South Asians. It's more of a syndrome than anything, heck you have South Asians born in English speaking countries that can't even pronounce words properly, wank becomes wenk, it's a back home mentality.

Even in the UK we speak Sylheti, Mirpuri, Punjabi amongst ourselves so what do you expect?



Precisely my point...


We speak English for the sake of it but this is an inherently flawed approach...


Mastery of the language should always, always be the goal but alas...


Why try to learn when you can just turn on subtitles on your favourite movies.
 
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This comparisons don't work...
Have you seen their cultures ? They're open to new things unlike the peasant like mindset that sadly our masses have.
We were formerly a part of the British Raj and as such English was a great tool for us to further ourselves in the world...

Look at how Indians have used their ability to speak relatively legible levels of English to great effect.

Where as our youth can't even say the word 'where' without sounding like 'huair'...

All those cultures you listed have a history of scientific research and education.. in their respective languages.

When it comes to speaking English, in general, Bangladeshis are behind Indians. No matter how much fun we make out of the Indian accent, they are able to fluently express themselves. They do find themselves in advantageous positions in the West because of that. I see it here quite often. One has to give credit to the Indians for that.

Exceptions do exist in small pockets though, I must add. Some renowned English medium schools in Dhaka, Chittagong, and Sylhet. And some renowned Bangla medium schools in Dhaka and the students from Cadet colleges. That is primarily because of extracurricular activities and the culture of allowing students to speak in English.

The English curriculum is abysmal in Bangla medium schools, the quality of English teachers is even worse.

Things don't look too bright for all the English medium schools either, despite following the British Curriculum. So many English medium schools popped up like mushrooms in the last two decades, a lot of them are outright garbage. Kids tend to think speaking ghetto rapstar English will take them places. Needless to say O-levels English is the single most dreaded subject for kids. Perhaps more so than Pure Maths!
Hindi brainwashing in Bangladesh has been ongoing in full force, to say the least. Thanks to Zee etc.

Speaking Hindi will only make us Indian slaves. Shameful when you consider our own Bangla literature is no less diverse and rich than that of Hindi.

We need to speak English.

Why not all 3? It helps to know as many languages as one can. And it's very much doable.

But English should definitely be given priority.
 
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Guess that's with a lot of us South Asians. It's more of a syndrome than anything, heck you have South Asians born in English speaking countries that can't even pronounce words properly, wank becomes wenk, it's a back home mentality.

Even in the UK we speak Sylheti, Mirpuri, Punjabi amongst ourselves so what do you expect?
"রাষ্ট্রভাষা বাংলা চাই" syndrome remains unabated in the society that takes us backward when it is English or another language. Love Bengali and hate other languages is our mindset.

Like any other foreign language, English is quite difficult to master unless a person is brought up in an English-speaking society. But, our people do not really try it as the Indians or Pakistanis do. Heck, we do not even speak or write in good Bengali!!

People here in Japan love to read and write Facebook in vernacular Bengali and not in English that does not improve their English-speaking capability.
 
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Hindi brainwashing in Bangladesh has been ongoing in full force, to say the least. Thanks to Zee etc.

Speaking Hindi will only make us Indian slaves. Shameful when you consider our own Bangla literature is no less diverse and rich than that of Hindi.

We need to speak English.

Why on earth will anyone in BD watch hindi series? Doesn't make any sense at all. I don't speak hindi in India, so why should someone speak hindi in BD? That's just preposterous.
 
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Why on earth will anyone in BD watch hindi series? Doesn't make any sense at all.

Because Bangladeshi entertainment is garbage, and Indian content is better than Bangladeshi one. So a lot of people are into Indian tv shows and movies.
 
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When it comes to speaking English, in general, Bangladeshis are behind Indians. No matter how much fun we make out of the Indian accent, they are able to fluently express themselves. They do find themselves in advantageous positions in the West because of that. I see it here quite often. One has to give credit to the Indians for that.

Exceptions do exist in small pockets though, I must add. Some renowned English medium schools in Dhaka, Chittagong, and Sylhet. And some renowned Bangla medium schools in Dhaka and the students from Cadet colleges. That is primarily because of extracurricular activities and the culture of allowing students to speak in English.

The English curriculum is abysmal in Bangla medium schools, the quality of English teachers is even worse.

Things don't look too bright for all the English medium schools either, despite following the British Curriculum. So many English medium schools popped up like mushrooms in the last two decades, a lot of them are outright garbage. Kids tend to think speaking ghetto rapstar English will take them places. Needless to say O-levels English is the single most dreaded subject for kids. Perhaps more so than Pure Maths!


Why not all 3? It helps to know as many languages as one can. And it's very much doable.

But English should definitely be given priority.

When you have Bangladeshi 'ghettos' in overseas countries the result is laughable english, you will think how a kid speaks like so even though he/she is born here. My cousin literally came in Year 7 (age 13/14) he is now 25 years old but still speaks like he is from the grams of BD.

The indians have successfully dispersed into richer areas and integrated well and not leeching off one another.

It's all about mindset, ours is :hitwall::hitwall: kapoosh
 
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Because Bangladeshi entertainment is garbage, and Indian content is better than Bangladeshi one. So a lot of people are into Indian tv shows and movies.

I don't watch BD entertainment shows, so won't comment. I can't stand hindi movies/series in general.
 
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"রাষ্ট্রভাষা বাংলা চাই" syndrome remains unabated in the society that takes us backward when it is English or another language. Love Bengali and hate other languages is our mindset.

Like any other foreign language, English is quite difficult to master unless a person is brought up in an English-speaking society. But, our people do not really try it as the Indians or Pakistanis do. Heck, we do not even speak or write in good Bengali!!

People here in Japan love to read and write Facebook in vernacular Bengali and not in English that does not improve their English-speaking capability.

Excellent point.

We have this tendency to antagonize other languages, at least that's what I have seen growing up in BD.

If we spoke English- we would be met with discouraging remarks from "Uncles and Aunties" who would tell us to not show off.
 
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"রাষ্ট্রভাষা বাংলা চাই" syndrome remains unabated in the society that takes us backward when it is English or another language. Love Bengali and hate other languages is our mindset.

Like any other foreign language, English is quite difficult to master unless a person is brought up in an English-speaking society. But, our people do not really try it as the Indians or Pakistanis do. Heck, we do not even speak or write in good Bengali!!

People here in Japan love to read and write Facebook in vernacular Bengali and not in English that does not improve their English-speaking capability.

They have fervour and a will to enjoy life, women or men, they go out to learn driving so they can attain license, they go to college so they can learn basic English. Our mentality is let our kids grow up so we can fall back on them (which I don't disagree with, but to a certain extent).
 
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I don't watch BD entertainment shows, so won't comment. I can't stand hindi movies/series in general.

So just imagine the level of shyte delivered in BD entertainment, that people flock to Hindi shows!
 
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So just imagine the level of shyte delivered in BD entertainment, that people flock to Hindi shows!

Entertainment is soft power and shows level of imagination for a country/race. Just look at tiny country like South Korea which has such an amazing entertainment industry from K-Pop to K-dramas. I wish BD would avoid falling to bollywood trash trap.
 
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English medium schools in Dhaka, Chittagong, and Sylhet. And some renowned Bangla medium schools in Dhaka and the students from Cadet colleges. That is primarily because of extracurricular activities and the culture of allowing students to speak in English.

The English curriculum is abysmal in Bangla medium schools, the quality of English teachers is even worse.

Things don't look too bright for all English medium schools either, despite following the British Curriculum. So many English medium schools popped up like mushrooms in the last two decades, a lot of them are outright garbage. Kids tend to think speaking ghetto rapstar English will take them places. Needless to say O-levels English is the single most dreaded subject for kids. Perhaps more so than Pure Maths
Maybe i can contribute to this discussion, since I did my GCSEs in an English medium school in Dhaka. (OIS) in Dhanmondi 27 to be precise.
The grasp of the english language is poor even in the most reputed English medium schools. English medium schools only care about tuition fees . If one is disciplined , and their parents are not ''angul fule kolagach'' types success is guaranteed (getting good grades etc).
Most of my schoolmates parent's were either Big buisnessmen or Corrupt Gov official (land registry is a hotspot for bribes) . Their kids couldn't speak a single sentence in english despite studying there for 13 years. These spoilt brats liked to flaunt their wealth by Putting their expensive phone(s) (sometimes even 3) on their tables for everyone to see. I used to have a Motorola flip phone just so i could communicate.
Not even going to the topic of ''genjam'' were OIS kids get into fights every week with other schools just for fun.
So there is a master mentality as much as there is a slave mentality. @DalalErMaNodi

I did my A-lvls in Britain and never experienced this kind of behaviour. Wonder how

Even in the UK we speak Sylheti, Mirpuri, Punjabi amongst ourselves so what do you expect?
Lol i have trouble communicating with Sylhetis and they have trouble understanding my Bangla.
heck you have South Asians born in English speaking countries that can't even pronounce words properly
Think becomes fink lol

EDIT: this presenter taught us GCSE english.
 
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"রাষ্ট্রভাষা বাংলা চাই" syndrome remains unabated in the society that takes us backward when it is English or another language. Love Bengali and hate other languages is our mindset.

Like any other foreign language, English is quite difficult to master unless a person is brought up in an English-speaking society. But, our people do not really try it as the Indians or Pakistanis do. Heck, we do not even speak or write in good Bengali!!

People here in Japan love to read and write Facebook in vernacular Bengali and not in English that does not improve their English-speaking capability.

Or the notion that we are trying to 'preserve' our culture and language, very toxic imo.
 
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