Bangladesh’s Sonadia Port Dilemma: Is the US Navy the Answer?

[Ammyy]

I do not think we should allow a Chinese military base but should try to firmly ally with China and allow regular port visits of Chinese warships.

Once China becomes a superpower, Indians can just watch and cry like women.

And you will be useless as always

 

[asad71]

I always favoured chinese involvement in BD but they seem to have less interest in BD compared to SL & PAK. Any country that would help counter the nose-poking of paganistic henious mentality India is welcome. But is US the answer though? I would rather opt for some Norwegians/japanese company make the port. But witch Hasina won't be able to do anything abt the port without India's consent as we saw in her recent trip to beijing. And if it wasn't for direct US/west siding with India, this witch wouldn't have come to power post 1/11. Even now west is only giving lip-service to the cause of democracy in BD even after the jan-5 circus show.

A post-hasina BD may be able move forward on the deep sea port issue. The prime concern for BD would be making the port & getting out of Indian interference and nose-poking.



IS china interested in BD?



Yeah US may not allow Indian ocean become India's ocean but if any dickhead like bush comes in washington and makes a u-turn then it would be disastrous for BD.



Compromise with a neighbor that goes to any length to have its puppet in power in BD, wants to control BD as a pathetic vassal, dries up our river, shoots our citizen at the border everyday and after all that spew BS propaganda of illegal migrants. How do u compromise with such a 2 faced snake? Or does compromise means dalals like Hasina be allowed to run the affairs in BD?

Yep,if Gwadar be one arm of the nut-cracker then Sonadia is the other.Sonadia will be the most valuable pearl in China's String of Pearls.

 

[Ammyy]

Yep,if Gwadar be one arm of the nut-cracker then Sonadia is the other.Sonadia will be the most valuable pearl in China's String of Pearls.

Gwadar is needed for Chinese trade route but same can not said for your port cause they have Mynmar as better option for that and they are already connected with rail and road with mynmar.

 

[sahaliyan]

I always favoured chinese involvement in BD but they seem to have less interest in BD compared to SL & PAK. Any country that would help counter the nose-poking of paganistic henious mentality India is welcome. But is US the answer though? I would rather opt for some Norwegians/japanese company make the port. But witch Hasina won't be able to do anything abt the port without India's consent as we saw in her recent trip to beijing. And if it wasn't for direct US/west siding with India, this witch wouldn't have come to power post 1/11. Even now west is only giving lip-service to the cause of democracy in BD even after the jan-5 circus show.

A post-hasina BD may be able move forward on the deep sea port issue. The prime concern for BD would be making the port & getting out of Indian interference and nose-poking.



IS china interested in BD?



Yeah US may not allow Indian ocean become India's ocean but if any dickhead like bush comes in washington and makes a u-turn then it would be disastrous for BD.



Compromise with a neighbor that goes to any length to have its puppet in power in BD, wants to control BD as a pathetic vassal, dries up our river, shoots our citizen at the border everyday and after all that spew BS propaganda of illegal migrants. How do u compromise with such a 2 faced snake? Or does compromise means dalals like Hasina be allowed to run the affairs in BD?

Our interests in Bangladesh are mainly economic,and to some degree,balance the Indians.You can see,even in 1980s,when we and Americans were allies(to against USSR),the Americans still supply weapons to Taiwan,because they don't trust China,and they know if the USSR fall,China will be their No 1 rival. The same reason,we will never trust Indians,so balance them is always needed
China and USA are undoubtly rivals,however the USA presense in Bangladesh is fit our interests,just like Pakistan in 1960-1970s is ally of both China and USA,while we were enemies that time.Just like we will support American bomb ISIS,because our investment in Iraq protected by American bomb

 

[extra terrestrial]

I do not think we should allow a Chinese military base but should try to firmly ally with China and allow regular port visits of Chinese warships.

Once China becomes a superpower, Indians can just watch and cry like women.

That's subjective. Why would China want us as an ally? The only alluring reason would be a strategic military base on Bay of Bengal at Sonadia. Besides, things can get even worse if Myanmar allows a military base before us.

 

[UKBengali]

That's subjective. Why would China want us as an ally? The only alluring reason would be a strategic military base on Bay of Bengal at Sonadia. Besides, things can get even worse if Myanmar allows a military base before us.

Well the attempt needs to be made at least.

BD has over 150 Million mainly Muslim population that can help box India in.

 

[sahaliyan]

Our interests in Bangladesh are mainly economic,and to some degree,balance the Indians.You can see,even in 1980s,when we and Americans were allies(to against USSR),the Americans still supply weapons to Taiwan,because they don't trust China,and they know if the USSR fall,China will be their No 1 rival. The same reason,we will never trust Indians,so balance them is always needed
China and USA are undoubtly rivals,however the USA presense in Bangladesh is fit our interests,just like Pakistan in 1960-1970s is ally of both China and USA,while we were enemies that time.Just like we will support American bomb ISIS,because our investment in Iraq protected by American bomb

The same reason Americans will not trust India too,Americans just want to use India to contain China,but they don't want another rival,after all,India is also a big country

 

[Cold Blood]

US won't have a military Base in BD maybe in Myanmar but not BD,

Thanks that you informed us, I was quite worried!

 

[Raphael]

Sonadia does not need to be militarized. It can follow in the footsteps of Gwadar, where we help to modernize and develop it, construct additional infrastructure, and retain a significant stake in the port itself. Keep the focus on economics. There can be no reasonable objection from the US and India to an arrangement like this.

BTW, requesting the opinion of @Chinese-Dragon and @TaiShang .

 

[kalu_miah]

I think Sonadia is not going to host a foreign naval base. I think that is how thinks are looking at this moment and the future. But what is important is the construction of the deep sea port that will service entire surrounding region and Bangladesh, for commerce, trade and economics.

For future military alliance of Bangladesh, I don't see any immediate hope for any. But I do see a possible option of more economic and defense relations with Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Turkey and GCC, which can eventually become the seed for a greater alliance of Muslim nations, under the right circumstances. Turkey may or may not become part of EU and it is already an established and key NATO member, but that should not stop it to help with this effort providing key indigenous technology, such as Tanks (Altay) and fighter planes (TAI) in the future, with its own indigenous engines. So my vote is for Turkey to play greater role and upgrade their economic and defense relations with Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia and Malaysia (and GCC, Arab world, Sub-Saharan Muslim Africa and Iran at later stages) and bring some synergistic dynamics between these large Muslim nations, by acting as the industrial core and the source of key enabling technology, for both defense and non-defense related fields.

By 2100 AD, there is going to 3.3 - 4 billion Muslim population out of a total of 10 billion global population. It is natural that Muslim nations should seek unity and a team of their own, so this team collectively can become a significant pole in the future multi-polar world.

 

[GR!FF!N]

You are saying it from the Indian perspective. Compromise with India? I think that's what we have been doing for the last 43 years and in return got nothing but India's interference on our internal matter. Besides, having the strategic location, we need to fully utilize our capability as a middle power. What if Myanmar allows a Chinese or American base? And terrorist targets! We don't see South Korea, Japan being terrorist targets.
If you are suggesting US base won't be effective then the only option remains China. USA won't remain the sole super power in near future and with the rise of China we are gong to witness a multipolar world, which means China and US will have more or less equal weight.

of course I'm saying from Indian perspective.I'm no bangladeshi.but half of my family still lives in various parts of Bangladesh.

last 43 years of compromise..hmm..what kind of compromise you want to point out??good relationship??swapping lands??business deals??you probably don't know what kind of treaty we had with Bhutan and Nepal.in comparison to that,we barely interfered with BD.but if some political party actively pursues anti india politics,we're bound to react.tell me,how many rebels/terrorists snicked through Indo-BD border.it is the hotspot of fake currency,drug dealings and every other kind of wrongdoings.only few months ago,your court handed over verdict of Chittagong Arms Case.how many that kind of "Interference" you could point out after you got your freedom??please spare me Jamaati propaganda.

about US base,are you sure you want to bring Japan and Korea into the picture??in both countries,US bases are over 60 years old.but having a islamist state,and a terrorist hotspot,BD will be bound to another political unstability and probably a target of terrorist activity.its a pattern what most Islamic countries are following.about China becoming Superpower,China isn't 1/10th of what SU was,and probably never going to be.its a constant pattern..USA creates a hype,the whole world follows it.USA gives it some space and the following country demonstrate some muscles.then USA simply purges it.it is happening time and again.we've seen SU,we've seen Japan,and now,it is China.any threat to US superiority met the same result.the reason is,USA can dominate and will dominate the world for forseeble future,because of its capability to make allies whenever needed.

about nullifying Indian interference,you'll bring China or USA.I wonder,whom you'll bring to nullify their interference..

there is a famous quote of Netaji..when Russia said to Netaji that they could help him to rout british,he said,I wonder,whom I'd have to call to make you leave India.never give space to foreign powers,they'll simply use you and then leave you.take a look towards Pakistan.

1.India hosts CIA,FBI and other agencies on her soil. Communication/eavesdropping facilities have remained from pre-1947 and strengthened/modernized. The deals India has with USA and Israel are more "Dirty" than a physical/visible base.

2. We need Chinese physical presence to stop India's pressures on us. Some smart diplomatic work will be needed to explain our predicament to USA.Pakistan's relations with China had grown in spite of her presence in CENTO and SEATO.

you're wrong uncle.FBI doesn't work on foreign soil(LOL).and CIA,KGB,MOSAD,everybody spies on everybody,not necessarily using that country's permission.its true that we've hosted few US Spy Missions for our gain,but thats long history.

about Pakistan,hope BD isn't choosing the same route like Pakistan.Chasing fictous "India Threat" and helping foreign powers to achieve some temporary gain,but remain as ultimate looser.

Compromise with a neighbor that goes to any length to have its puppet in power in BD, wants to control BD as a pathetic vassal, dries up our river, shoots our citizen at the border everyday and after all that spew BS propaganda of illegal migrants. How do u compromise with such a 2 faced snake? Or does compromise means dalals like Hasina be allowed to run the affairs in BD?

dalals like Hasina was chosen by your fellow countrymen.and its sad to see that your own country's court banned Patriotic Jamaats.

now,the truth,when you chose leaders like above mentioned,who could sell his/her own mother for money,this is bound to happen.those two witch is simply loves their power,and in the meantime,BDs suffer.but then,I don't know why BDs get fooled so easily.simple propaganda from Jamaat,and BDs go haywire.simple accuse from one of the witches,and they chant anti India slogan.even they accuse their Army,Paramilitary units,Court,Police and Govt for Indian Stooge.no wonder,BD remains India's constant headache.

 

[asad71]

of course I'm saying from Indian perspective.I'm no bangladeshi.but half of my family still lives in various parts of Bangladesh.

last 43 years of compromise..hmm..what kind of compromise you want to point out??good relationship??swapping lands??business deals??you probably don't know what kind of treaty we had with Bhutan and Nepal.in comparison to that,we barely interfered with BD.but if some political party actively pursues anti india politics,we're bound to react.tell me,how many rebels/terrorists snicked through Indo-BD border.it is the hotspot of fake currency,drug dealings and every other kind of wrongdoings.only few months ago,your court handed over verdict of Chittagong Arms Case.how many that kind of "Interference" you could point out after you got your freedom??please spare me Jamaati propaganda.

about US base,are you sure you want to bring Japan and Korea into the picture??in both countries,US bases are over 60 years old.but having a islamist state,and a terrorist hotspot,BD will be bound to another political unstability and probably a target of terrorist activity.its a pattern what most Islamic countries are following.about China becoming Superpower,China isn't 1/10th of what SU was,and probably never going to be.its a constant pattern..USA creates a hype,the whole world follows it.USA gives it some space and the following country demonstrate some muscles.then USA simply purges it.it is happening time and again.we've seen SU,we've seen Japan,and now,it is China.any threat to US superiority met the same result.the reason is,USA can dominate and will dominate the world for forseeble future,because of its capability to make allies whenever needed.

about nullifying Indian interference,you'll bring China or USA.I wonder,whom you'll bring to nullify their interference..

there is a famous quote of Netaji..when Russia said to Netaji that they could help him to rout british,he said,I wonder,whom I'd have to call to make you leave India.never give space to foreign powers,they'll simply use you and then leave you.take a look towards Pakistan.



you're wrong uncle.FBI doesn't work on foreign soil(LOL).and CIA,KGB,MOSAD,everybody spies on everybody,not necessarily using that country's permission.its true that we've hosted few US Spy Missions for our gain,but thats long history.

about Pakistan,hope BD isn't choosing the same route like Pakistan.Chasing fictous "India Threat" and helping foreign powers to achieve some temporary gain,but remain as ultimate looser.



dalals like Hasina was chosen by your fellow countrymen.and its sad to see that your own country's court banned Patriotic Jamaats.

now,the truth,when you chose leaders like above mentioned,who could sell his/her own mother for money,this is bound to happen.those two witch is simply loves their power,and in the meantime,BDs suffer.but then,I don't know why BDs get fooled so easily.simple propaganda from Jamaat,and BDs go haywire.simple accuse from one of the witches,and they chant anti India slogan.even they accuse their Army,Paramilitary units,Court,Police and Govt for Indian Stooge.no wonder,BD remains India's constant headache.

FBI in New Delhi | South Asia Analysis Group

It is irritating to reply to irresponsible posters who do not ascertain facts before jumping into the fray.

Gwadar is needed for Chinese trade route but same can not said for your port cause they have Mynmar as better option for that and they are already connected with rail and road with mynmar.

You haven't understood the significance of a nut cracker astride India with the handle at Tibet. Sitting at the top of the Bay of Bengal we are definitely more important than the unreliable Burmese.

 

[GR!FF!N]

FBI in New Delhi | South Asia Analysis Group
It is irritating to reply to irresponsible posters who do not ascertain facts before jumping into the fray.

you mean training and possible International offices???LOL..in that term,Bangladesh has armed presence in half of Africa(Peace Mission).Unlike you,I don't mix $h!t and eat.

FBI's main mission is to protect homeland,its Legal authority is only within USA.its CIA and other agencies which is used to espionage into other countries.

 

[Ammyy]

You haven't understood the significance of a nut cracker astride India with the handle at Tibet. Sitting at the top of the Bay of Bengal we are definitely more important than the unreliable Burmese.

Still Bangladesh is useless for china if they have mynmar, or you can accept complete occupation of China then may be you will be useful for them. I am sure so many like you would love to be under Chinese occupation ???

 

[Echo_419]

Sonadia does not need to be militarized. It can follow in the footsteps of Gwadar, where we help to modernize and develop it, construct additional infrastructure, and retain a significant stake in the port itself. Keep the focus on economics. There can be no reasonable objection from the US and India to an arrangement like this.

BTW, requesting the opinion of @Chinese-Dragon and @TaiShang .

Surely why will we oppose it when it is Purely 'Economic',port will lead to increase in Jobs in BD itself & benefits for the region.it is ridiculous to think we will oppose it