Bangladesh will have to handover land to India from Khulna to Sylhet: Subramanian Swamy

[VikingRaider]

And consider HINDUTWA as a cancer which will take you down irrespective of whether you are a hare or tortoise in due course if time

We have antidote ( it just work slowly in a balanceed way) against hindutva! Actually Bangladesh is totally opposite as you think and @Riyad claims.

 

[EastBengalPro]

Why you people react so much for a dumb*ss remarks. Its easier to get into notince in India when you say something anti Bangladeshi, Anti Islam and Anti Pakistani.... Let them live in their dream world. LOL

 

[VikingRaider]

bro I think there are two schools of thought in BD...one is pro India.

Pro India people are even not common in AL. Only few so called progressive seculars ( in reality crypto hindutva ; they belong to either leftist group or some traitors), who are not even 1% in our country!

Most of us are pro Bangladeshi, you can bet on this. But yes I admit that many AL die hard supporters do bad mouth about Pakistan, due to political reason, but none of them are pro India. They are pro Bangladesh too!

 

[Cookie Monster]

Pro India people are even not common in AL. Only few so called progressive seculars ( in reality crypto hindutva ; they belong to either leftist group or some traitors), who are not even 1% in our country!

Most of us are pro Bangladeshi, you can bet on this. But yes I admit that many AL die hard supporters do bad mouth about Pakistan, due to political reason, but none of them are pro India. They are pro Bangladesh too!

That's what I keep telling Bangladeshis on this forum. They don't have to be pro Pakistan and profess their love for Pakistan and Pakistanis. They just need to be pro Bangladesh. In that interest of Bangladeshi sovereignty they should be for a strong BD military and strategic alliance with China and Pak. By itself if we were to quantify even a strong BD military...it would still put BD at a disadvantage against a behemoth like India(in terms of just the sheer size and economy)...same goes for Pak...but together China/Pak/Bangladesh...the value ends up being more than the sum of its individual parts. Anyone who has studied warfare and strategies would see how it would be a huge disadvantage for India...if this sort of thing ever happened. With this BD wouldn't have to match India on a 1:1 ratio militarily and still be a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Aasimkhan]

There was a time when Japan looked up to China and felt solidarity with it...then eventually there was the Japanese invasion of China and the unspeakable horrors that occurred. That is just ONE of the many examples. Things like this have occurred all over the world and throughout history. Relations between any two nations are never permanent...they r fluid...ever changing and influenced by many factors.

In order to try to predict the future...one should look at the current trends...and see how the direction of the wind is changing. IMO based on the current geopolitical scenario, the rising RSS mentality in India...combined with it's rise in economy and the backing of western powers(due to their own separate interests)...India is gunning to be a regional power and it would find itself running into all sorts of conflicts of interest with other countries in the neighborhood.

In that case...solving it peacefully is all good and jolly but what happens when India tries to strongarm BD to have its own way? Hence why it's imperative that BD builds a decent military capability with some strategic alliances to keep the balance of power in equilibrium(as opposed to tilted in India's favor).

@Avicenna bro I think there are two schools of thought in BD...one is pro India...and the other that anticipates a potential conflict with India. It just so happens to be that under Hasina's gov the pro India faction has the upper hand.

You are right. Some of the BD army officers I know are very very skeptic of future Indian intentions in their area

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

That's what I keep telling Bangladeshis on this forum. They don't have to be pro Pakistan and profess their love for Pakistan and Pakistanis. They just need to be pro Bangladesh. In that interest of Bangladeshi sovereignty they should be for a strong BD military and strategic alliance with China and Pak. By itself if we were to quantify even a strong BD military...it would still put BD at a disadvantage against a behemoth like India(in terms of just the sheer size and economy)...same goes for Pak...but together China/Pak/Bangladesh...the value ends up being more than the sum of its individual parts. Anyone who has studied warfare and strategies would see how it would be a huge disadvantage for India...if this sort of thing ever happened. With this BD wouldn't have to match India on a 1:1 ratio militarily and still be a force to be reckoned with.

This is the right way of thinking.

Protect your family firstly, then worry about others.

BD need to revive its relations with China and Pakistan to confront India and Burma.

 

[PAKSpecialForces]

Funny thing is this nutjobs daughter itself is victim of love jihad . Married a Muslim and converted. She liked the beef eating Muslim d**k compared to vegan 2 inch hindu d**k.

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Suhasini Haidar Daughter of Subramanian Swami

Here is the evidence to back up your above claims:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/1638214/average-size-penis-around-world-africa/

Unable to recover Kashmir, you guys want India to catch us by our neck. Bengal was independent of India long before we built Pakistan.

Pakistan has domain over at least 35% of Kashmir. China has 25% control, but the Chinese sector of Kashmir is run with Pakistani autonomy. Therefore Pakistan rules at least 60% of Kashmir. indian occupied Kashmir is around 40% at most. So most of Kashmir is already with us. That is the reality. We have achieved all of this despite being more than 7× smaller than india. A first in human history:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2013/11/08/world/kashmir-fast-facts/index.html

 

[Cookie Monster]

This is the right way of thinking.

Protect your family firstly, then worry about others.

BD need to revive its relations with China and Pakistan to confront India and Burma.

Burma is a piece of cake to deal with if BD builds strong relations with China. There is immense potential between China/BD relations mainly due to an alignment of interests. China would love to have BD onboard for its location. BD can add to the string of pearls...BD can prove a valuable ally for encircling India on land too. BD's relatively close proximity to Andaman and Nicobar islands(one of the strongholds of IN) plus the overall location by the sea and then there's also the potential for including BD in China's trade routes..add to this BD's growing economy. On the flip side BD can gain a powerful ally that would singlehandedly take away the problem of Myanmar(China's strong influence on Myanmar)...additionally China would also act as a hedge against India. Both China and BD operating in sync militarily...that near the chicken's neck...Pakistan on the other side...and u can see how India's options of gaining an upper hand run out fast.

@Avicenna I say u should become the PM of BD...leverage BD's location and be a regional tiger.

 

[Avicenna]

There was a time when Japan looked up to China and felt solidarity with it...then eventually there was the Japanese invasion of China and the unspeakable horrors that occurred. That is just ONE of the many examples. Things like this have occurred all over the world and throughout history. Relations between any two nations are never permanent...they r fluid...ever changing and influenced by many factors.

In order to try to predict the future...one should look at the current trends...and see how the direction of the wind is changing. IMO based on the current geopolitical scenario, the rising RSS mentality in India...combined with it's rise in economy and the backing of western powers(due to their own separate interests)...India is gunning to be a regional power and it would find itself running into all sorts of conflicts of interest with other countries in the neighborhood.

In that case...solving it peacefully is all good and jolly but what happens when India tries to strongarm BD to have its own way? Hence why it's imperative that BD builds a decent military capability with some strategic alliances to keep the balance of power in equilibrium(as opposed to tilted in India's favor).

@Avicenna bro I think there are two schools of thought in BD...one is pro India...and the other that anticipates a potential conflict with India. It just so happens to be that under Hasina's gov the pro India faction has the upper hand.

Yea I agree with what you are saying.

With Hasina, I don't know if she really is pro-Indian or likes to keep her enemies close.

But her M.O. has hurt Bangladesh i believe despite whatever her true motivations are.

But I am hoping the emerging realities of a BJP India will cause at least the future leadership to take note.

Truth be told, Bangladesh needs economic development before it can ever hope to field a stronger military.

Perhaps she is just biding her time by playing nice.

Who knows?

Burma is a piece of cake to deal with if BD builds strong relations with China. There is immense potential between China/BD relations mainly due to an alignment of interests. China would love to have BD onboard for its location. BD can add to the string of pearls...BD can prove a valuable ally for encircling India on land too. BD's relatively close proximity to Andaman and Nicobar islands(one of the strongholds of IN) plus the overall location by the sea and then there's also the potential for including BD in China's trade routes..add to this BD's growing economy. On the flip side BD can gain a powerful ally that would singlehandedly take away the problem of Myanmar(China's strong influence on Myanmar)...additionally China would also act as a hedge against India. Both China and BD operating in sync militarily...that near the chicken's neck...Pakistan on the other side...and u can see how India's options of gaining an upper hand run out fast.

@Avicenna I say u should become the PM of BD...leverage BD's location and be a regional tiger.

Haha.

Thanks man, but I would be assassinated in about a week.

 

[namefield_empty]

Poor muslim uneducated people actually do specially in Bhramaputra valley. Most of them will identify them as Assamese. After NRC that might change.

Everyone is expected to know and speak Assamese in Assam, that doesn't mean that the miyas will be considered as Assamese. That would be an insult to the indigenous Assamese muslims who were PoWs taken by our ancestors when they defeated the invading forces.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Yea I agree with what you are saying.

With Hasina, I don't know if she really is pro-Indian or likes to keep her enemies close.

But her M.O. has hurt Bangladesh i believe despite whatever her true motivations are.

But I am hoping the emerging realities of a BJP India will cause at least the future leadership to take note.

Truth be told, Bangladesh needs economic development before it can ever hope to field a stronger military.

Perhaps she is just biding her time by playing nice.

Who knows?

So far IMO Hasina is very much pro India. In any case...yes BD needs more development economically...however I think that BD is at the stage where it can afford to spend the average 2%(like most nations) of its GDP on its military...while at the same time also growing its economy. Moreover if BD goes for a JV with other nations(China, Turkey, Ukraine, Indonesia, South Africa, etc.) it would be an even more bang for the buck. If I remember correctly Indonesia recently built a medium weight tank with Turkey...BD could do the same. BD has similar environment to Indonesia...Ukraine can provide valuable inputs in that too...and with that BD can kickstart local tank production. As for the navy...due to massive IN size, BD would have to go heavily for A2AD assets like submarines...China can help there. These capabilities can't be built overnight...IMO BD should start now. Then in the next 20 years u would start to see a decent fighting force emerge.

 

[namefield_empty]

In order to try to predict the future...one should look at the current trends...and see how the direction of the wind is changing. IMO based on the current geopolitical scenario, the rising RSS mentality in India...combined with it's rise in economy and the backing of western powers(due to their own separate interests)...India is gunning to be a regional power and it would find itself running into all sorts of conflicts of interest with other countries in the neighborhood.

In that case...solving it peacefully is all good and jolly but what happens when India tries to strongarm BD to have its own way?

RSS rise in India has nothing to do with Bangladesh, neither has NRC. Bangladesh has her fair share of right wingers too. Contrary to what you believe, India have gone out of her way to deal with everything outstanding issues pertaining to BD expeditiously in the last 5 years, the backlog of previous 4 decades have been taken care of. More good news for BD are in the pipeline.

I would like to ask the Bangladeshi members to list their present grievances with India on this thread, i mean what more do they want us to do, then we can start telling them what we expect from them.

There will always be people with contrarian PoV, but those are exceptions in both the countries.

 

[Avicenna]

So far IMO Hasina is very much pro India. In any case...yes BD needs more development economically...however I think that BD is at the stage where it can afford to spend the average 2%(like most nations) of its GDP on its military...while at the same time also growing its economy. Moreover if BD goes for a JV with other nations(China, Turkey, Ukraine, Indonesia, South Africa, etc.) it would be an even more bang for the buck. If I remember correctly Indonesia recently built a medium weight tank with Turkey...BD could do the same. BD has similar environment to Indonesia...Ukraine can provide valuable inputs in that too...and with that BD can kickstart local tank production. As for the navy...due to massive IN size, BD would have to go heavily for A2AD assets like submarines...China can help there. These capabilities can't be built overnight...IMO BD should start now. Then in the next 20 years u would start to see a decent fighting force emerge.

Yea again I agree.

I would like to respond to this post in some detail but I gotta get to bed now.

InshAllah, after I've collected some thoughts I will respond.

 

[VikingRaider]

That's what I keep telling Bangladeshis on this forum. They don't have to be pro Pakistan and profess their love for Pakistan and Pakistanis. They just need to be pro Bangladesh. In that interest of Bangladeshi sovereignty they should be for a strong BD military and strategic alliance with China and Pak. By itself if we were to quantify even a strong BD military...it would still put BD at a disadvantage against a behemoth like India(in terms of just the sheer size and economy)...same goes for Pak...but together China/Pak/Bangladesh...the value ends up being more than the sum of its individual parts. Anyone who has studied warfare and strategies would see how it would be a huge disadvantage for India...if this sort of thing ever happened. With this BD wouldn't have to match India on a 1:1 ratio militarily and still be a force to be reckoned with.

Agree with every words of your message.

 

[Cookie Monster]

RSS rise in India has nothing to do with Bangladesh, neither has NRC. Bangladesh has her fair share of right wingers too. Contrary to what you believe, India have gone out of her way to deal with everything outstanding issues pertaining to BD expeditiously in the last 5 years, the backlog of previous 4 decades have been taken care of. More good news for BD are in the pipeline.

Do u read what u write? Like just to see if it makes sense? The rise of RSS(and other such Hindutva extremists) has nothing to do with BD? That's like saying the rise of the Nazi party in Germany has nothing to do with Poland. RSS thrives on anti Muslim hate. They sell the idea of how Muslims conquered, suppressed, raped, and looted Hindus for centuries...and now WE(Hindus) must right those wrongs. Sound similar to Nazi party's hate speeches against the Jews? RSS also has an expansionist ideology with the whole Akhand Bharat thing...sounds similar to Hitler's plan of taking over neighboring countries' lands? When such an extremist ideology takes root and starts growing at the government level...it spreads hate...creates an "us vs them"...be it "Germans vs Jews" or "Hindus vs Muslim". At the government level these ideologies don't remain contained in their heads...now they can have a whole economy and military at their disposal to act on their ideologies.

So yes the rise of RSS and Hindutva ideology has EVERYTHING to do with India's neighbors.
@Avicenna this guy still going strong