Bangladesh wants China, India to de-escalate situation

[Buddhistforlife]

True that.

But many of those rebel groups are not really induced by any ideologies and are mostly working as mercenaries, exploiting the forest resources and smuggling them to China. It's possible to utilize them in our favor during a war only if can cultivate some links with them.

There was this conspiracy theory I heard that is the rebel groups are actually funded by the army. The Myanmar army does not want to lose power and on the pretext of fighting rebellion they are staying in power

 

[Species]

There was this conspiracy theory I heard that is the rebel groups are actually funded by the army. The Myanmar army does not want to lose power and on the pretext of fighting rebellion they are staying in power

Doesn't seem credible to me. Although it's possible Tatmadaw might have sponsored to pit one group against another but there doesn't seem to be any feuds among those groups right now.

They are mostly believed to be armed and funded by China. Many of Burma's eastern peripheral provinces are economically entirely dependent on trade with China.

 

[namefield_empty]

There was this conspiracy theory I heard that is the rebel groups are actually funded by the army. The Myanmar army does not want to lose power and on the pretext of fighting rebellion they are staying in power

You should listen to the the wise words of your fellow countrymen, dear Bengali Buddhist youngster. China pits our people against one another, it is a well known fact. She doesn't have the best interests of our native lands, be it NE India, BD or Myanmar. A continuum of the British divide and rule, unless we leave our petty differences aside, NE and its contiguous regions of SA/SEA can never prosper.

 

[Cliftonite]

You should listen to the the wise words of your fellow countrymen, dear Bengali Buddhist youngster. China pits our people against one another, it is a well known fact. She doesn't have the best interests of our native lands, be it NE India, BD or Myanmar. A continuum of the British divide and rule, unless we leave our petty differences aside, NE and its contiguous regions of SA/SEA can never prosper.

Bangladeshis aren't stupid enough to listen to you. Your people kill them such as in the Nellie massacre. China is better than you.

 

[namefield_empty]

Bangladeshis aren't stupid enough to listen to you. Your people kill them such as in the Nellie massacre. China is better than you.

You are an outsider, don't interfere when i'm talking to my neighbours. I would value their opinions more than a clueless intruder, even if that's not in line with what i think. Now shoo off.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

There was this conspiracy theory I heard that is the rebel groups are actually funded by the army. The Myanmar army does not want to lose power and on the pretext of fighting rebellion they are staying in power

Even if this theory isn't true, junta actually do not want the conflict to end. They knows very well, if the conflicts subside, their power and illicit income will diminish and Aung San Suu Kyi's democratic govt. will strengthen. Which they never wants. They welcomed Suu Kyi to take over the charge of govt. and make her the 'ruler' without real power so that the junta can do crime without taking responsibility. Now they do crime and Suu Kyi get the blame! This is what they wanted. Suu Kyi also accepted this arrangement as something slightly better than outright Junta rule and to find an opportunity to fight them from within the govt. rather than outside which for five decades yield no result.

 

[namefield_empty]

Even if this theory isn't true, junta actually do not want the conflict to end. They knows very well, if the conflicts subside, their power and illicit income will diminish and Aung San Suu Kyi's democratic govt. will strengthen. Which they never wants. They welcomed Suu Kyi to take over the charge of govt. and make her the 'ruler' without real power so that the junta can do crime without taking responsibility. Now they do crime and Suu Kyi get the blame! This is what they wanted. Suu Kyi also accepted this arrangement as something slightly better than outright Junta rule and to find an opportunity to fight them from within the govt. rather than outside which for five decades yield no result.

On a unrelated topic, what do you think would have been the fate of Myanmar had the hasty and ill conceived (for them) GOI Act 1935 didn't apply to them. Can't blame them, tbh. They didn't have enough time to acclimatise and forge a strong union.

On the contrary look at us in India or even in my state where we have more ethnicities co habiting peacefully since eternity.

It's a freaking shame that Myanmar still continues to be a troubled land.

 

[Species]

Bangladeshis aren't stupid enough to listen to you. Your people kill them such as in the Nellie massacre. China is better than you.

Don't take him seriously. He's a sanghi and only known for bringing facts out of his rear end.

People in Northeast India are either neutral or pro-China with regards to the whole Sino-India dispute. In Assam, people are already pissed off at BJP due to the whole CAA fiasco while sanghis have lost a significant part of their vote-bank after scores of Bengali Hindus were left out in the latest NRC.

 

[namefield_empty]

People in Northeast India are either neutral or pro-China with regards to the whole Sino-India dispute.

 

[VikingRaider]

I think Buddhists can also like Sri Lanka or Myanmar or Thailand likewise.

Here is a problem . If Hindu and Muslim admire Saudi Arabia and India ,they have logic as these two countries are the birthplace of Hinduism and Islam .

However muslims have feeling for other Muslim countries too ,it's natural , so it's natural for others I admit too .

But for miyanmer the case is a bit disturbing,don't you think so?

As Miyanmer is the cause of Rohingya crisis in Bangladesh . Perhaps you should re think about your position about Myanmer , and it's also not the birthplace of Buddhism. For the other buddhist countries I fully support your special feelings.

They feel like they can avenge '71 by putting down Pakistan and Pakistanis. Alhamdulilah they are only a minority of BDs

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan ,
People who take Pakistani or Indian side over own country Bangladesh are actually minority Alhamdulillah .

Bangladeahi muslims have good feelings of Pakistan ,
.
But if our Pakistani brothers think that only docile people/uncle toms are their true friends and brothers ,then Alhamdulullah they are and will always remain minority in Bangladesh.

You should know that, most of Bangladeshis are nationalistic Muslim, same as you are .

As you will not raise your voice for Uighur Muslims , because it goes against the interest of you country. Its almost same for Bangladeshi Muslims too .

If they need to choose between ummah (Nowadays a deceiving concept and a tool to create superiority and inferiority devision amount Muslim nationality ) and their own country first , no doubt that they will choose their country Bangladesh .

At least Bangladeshi people supported and came to street to protest against Modi to show their love and support to their Kashmiri brothers ,although Kashmir issue doesn't serve in interest of the country Bangladesh and will never serve the interest of Bangladesh.

So perhaps in many cases we will accept any accusations ( of being minority) when our nationalistic Pakistani Muslim brothers will be supporting Uighur Muslims .

And one more thing , if someone deride Pakistanis that doesn't necessarily amuse us unless our ultra nationalists Pakistani brothers take stance for racism and overly refuse the equal participation of Bengalis for the creation of Pakistan in 1947.

Here's an exhibit of this user, he calls Bengalis Hindus and Indians, defames the country, calls us out for being dark skinned and you'll even find out why he is so irked by Bangladesh in the below quotes.

He can't bear to see BD's economic growth, probably the kind of guy who looks at photos of Islamabad thinking all of Pakistan is the same as a puny prestige city purpose built for a capital.

And sensible Pakistanis are backing a user like this pffft.

Note all these quotes were directed and Bangladeshi Muslim users not Indians, because bashing Indians is excusable as per forum's Defacto rules.

This kind of users get free hand on PDF? These are only two pages I could sort thorough, for posts on this sub forum and referring to Bangladeshis. Make a broader search and who this person really is comes to fore.

I rest my case, mods ought to ban him but as long as Pakistan isn't being insult all else is allowed and encouraged.

Bhai,that's the reason I refuse any peace with any trouble maker specially if he/she hold Bangladeshi flag and make buddy with Indian and Pakistanis and perform gang attack .

But ,I mostly avoid nowadays ( I explained the reason in final para) any Pakistani troll attack as it's their forum and I can't fight crocodile when I am in water ( you don't have to do that ,you should keep protesting peacefully as you are doing ). I won't forget my 23 days straight banning for counter trolling ( Although not questioning moderators decision , as it's their forum and they have this right to make any rule ) and it actually strengthen my position about democracy and freedom of speech ,as I believe democracy and freedom of speech is actually hoax and people only cry for it when it ( democracy and freedom of speech ) service someones own interest .

But for the Bangladeshi flag holders and for Indians if anyone ever offend my country and myself I will not let them go so easily.

Either I will totally finish them off ,or will totally ignore them as if they dont exist here (not blocking their profile though ) .

I wholeheartedly believe that , " When you play with bastards , be sure to be the bigger bastard otherwise you will lose" .

However thank you very much for telling the truth . You actually speak my mind as I remained silent since that day (And will remain silent forever against Pakistani trolls)in this forum. You can consider my position, as silent protest against unequal treatment.
@DalalErMaNodi bhai .

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Here is a problem . If Hindu and Muslim admire Saudi Arabia and India ,they have logic as these two countries are the birthplace of Hinduism and Islam .

However muslims have feeling for other Muslim countries too ,it's natural , so it's natural for others I admit too .

But for miyanmer the case is a bit disturbing,don't you think so?

As Miyanmer is the cause of Rohingya crisis in Bangladesh . Perhaps you should re think about your position about Myanmer , and it's also not the birthplace of Buddhism. For the other buddhist countries I fully support your special feelings.


@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan ,
People who take Pakistani or Indian side over own country Bangladesh are actually minority Alhamdulillah .

Bangladeahi muslims have good feelings of Pakistan ,
.
But if our Pakistani brothers think that only docile people/uncle toms are their true friends and brothers ,then Alhamdulullah they are and will always remain minority in Bangladesh.

You should know that, most of Bangladeshis are nationalistic Muslim, same as you are .

As you will not raise your voice for Uighur Muslims , because it goes against the interest of you country. Its almost same for Bangladeshi Muslims too .

If they need to choose between ummah (Nowadays a deceiving concept and a tool to create superiority and inferiority devision amount Muslim nationality ) and their own country first , no doubt that they will choose their country Bangladesh .

At least Bangladeshi people supported and came to street to protest against Modi to show their love and support to their Kashmiri brothers ,although Kashmir issue doesn't serve in interest of the country Bangladesh and will never serve the interest of Bangladesh.

So perhaps in many cases we will accept any accusations ( of being minority) when our nationalistic Pakistani Muslim brothers will be supporting Uighur Muslims .

And one more thing , if someone deride Pakistanis that doesn't necessarily amuse us unless our ultra nationalists Pakistani brothers take stance for racism and overly refuse the equal participation of Bengalis for the creation of Pakistan in 1947.



Bhai,that's the reason I refuse any peace with any trouble maker specially if he/she hold Bangladeshi flag and make buddy with Indian and Pakistanis and perform gang attack .

But ,I mostly avoid nowadays ( I explained the reason in final para) any Pakistani troll attack as it's their forum and I can't fight crocodile when I am in water ( you don't have to do that ,you should keep protesting peacefully as you are doing ). I won't forget my 23 days straight banning for counter trolling ( Although not questioning moderators decision , as it's their forum and they have this right to make any rule ) and it actually strengthen my position about democracy and freedom of speech ,as I believe democracy and freedom of speech is actually hoax and people only cry for it when it ( democracy and freedom of speech ) service someones own interest .

But for the Bangladeshi flag holders and for Indians if anyone ever offend my country and myself I will not let them go so easily.

Either I will totally finish them off ,or will totally ignore them as if they dont exist here (not blocking their profile though ) .

I wholeheartedly believe that , " When you play with bastards , be sure to be the bigger bastard otherwise you will lose" .

However thank you very much for telling the truth . You actually speak my mind as I remained silent since that day (And will remain silent forever against Pakistani trolls)in this forum. You can consider my position, as silent protest against unequal treatment.
@DalalErMaNodi bhai .

@Atlas We dont care about what happened in the past. Just because Nepal was once birthplace of Lord Buddha we can't support it. In fact Nepal has no Buddhist now.

Also the reason why Buddhists support Myanmar as the Burmese patronise Buddhism everywhere.

Since the last 200 years, Myanmar has contributed to Buddhism like no other nation. Starting from re structuring the Holiest site of Buddhism, the Bodh Gaya, in 1903 to compiling the entire Tripitaka, the Burmese played and are still playing major role in patronising Buddhism.

Currently many major Buddhist charity and donations are conducted by the Burmese.

Myanmar as a country is very important for the Buddhist world. Without Myanmar, the Buddhist world would collapse and no Buddhist would want destruction of his own community.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

This is because all other Buddhist countries are now developing, moving forward, throwing religion in dustbin and having secular and irreligious people.


Only backward Myanmar can be bothered to pay attention to religious beliefs, Myanmar is like Afghanistan is for Islam, a backward country full of ultra religious extremists.

You are completely wrong. You think China, Japan, Vietnam, South Korea was Buddhist? No man.

China, Japan, Vietnam was mixed with Confucianism, Tengirism, Buddhism and other tribal beliefs. Now they are completely irreligious.

Buddhist majority countries like Thailand, Sri lanka, Cambodia are legit Buddhist majority and are still practicing Buddhists.

Even Thailand has the world's largest meditation centre.

This is because all other Buddhist countries are now developing, moving forward, throwing religion in dustbin and having secular and irreligious people.


Only backward Myanmar can be bothered to pay attention to religious beliefs, Myanmar is like Afghanistan is for Islam, a backward country full of ultra religious extremists.

I would not blame you. I often hear people saying that Buddhists are becoming irreligious and they cite China and Japan whereas China and Japan was never Buddhist country. Shintoism, Confucianism, Shamanism, Tengirism, Manichaeism etc are the original religion of China, Japan, Vietnam.

This is because all other Buddhist countries are now developing, moving forward, throwing religion in dustbin and having secular and irreligious people.


Only backward Myanmar can be bothered to pay attention to religious beliefs, Myanmar is like Afghanistan is for Islam, a backward country full of ultra religious extremists.

Also most muslim countries are not secular. Bangladesh has Islam as state religion, Pakistan, Saudi, Qatar etc are not secular.

Why should Hindus, Christians and Buddhists be secular and accomodating to muslims?

Why don't Muslim countries become secular and support minorities?

 

[Buddhistforlife]

I said secular minded people, not secular countries.


Who cares about religion these days ?

Everyone is more worried about putting food on the plate, you think anyone cares what religion says ?


Nah, Bangladeshis are only religious on the surface, in reality we worship money, food and a comfortable life free of financial hardships.


I was not talking about Confucianism or Shintoism, I was talking about regular Buddhist countries, nobody is crazy about Buddhism like Myanmar, do not compare Myanmar to Thailand, that comparison is outrageous.


One is developing SEA country, with friendly people and massive tourism sector and other is a military junta run shithole, with no exports to speak of except yaba and human misery.

Pakistan is also not secular lol.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Who said it is lol.

Listen Each country's values are different. There are muslim countries like Turkey, Indonesia where people don't give two cents about religion and there is Pakistan, Afghanistan where people are strict when it comes to faith.

Same some Buddhist countries like Myanmar and Sri lanka are strict Buddhists while others are lenient.

It depends on country's foundation and values.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Strict adherence to religious rules and norms are endemic to poor, backward countries, who can refute this ?

Pakistan is poor?

Strict adherence to religious rules and norms are endemic to poor, backward countries, who can refute this ?

Pakistan is a nuclear weapons country.