Bangladesh urges UK to recognise 1971 genocid

[Safriz]

absolutely and we must accept history for closure, the Pak Army did rape and murder Bengalis in 1971 and as revenge the Muktis did the same. Biharis born today should be intergrated into the Bengali community and Pakistanis must understand why Bengalis wanted independence. If you do not successfully intergrate all your citizens, India will take advantage of it like it did with the Mukti Bahinis

Lol. No country in the world takes an armed rebellion lightly and neither did Pakistan army. Mukti Bahini were armed rebellion and were dealt with as such
As far as rape is concerned, Pakistan army was outnumbered and outgunned by many to one and having an election to rape or having the time to rape was out of question. Surviving another hour from Bengali hoard and saving self from attacking Indian army air forces and navy was the priority.
You try having an erection under such situation??

Bangladeshis of that time had many educated people.Let us confess without making any excuses that our discrimination (and hatred/racism) towards the East Pakistan was unjust. Moreover, After the first acceptable (in terms of fairness), PPP lost. The elite of West Pakistan (Military[Yahya wanting to stay president] and Politician[ Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto]) must have given the right to rule both East and West Pakistan to Awami League. But, Alas! our wrong policies distanced us from our own. We have also killed many innocents on their side... But their hands are also dirty. In civil war, both sides spill blood. I don't blame them-It was us who made them treacherous.

But, I also do not understand the allegations set forward towards us by the state of Bangladesh. The facts and figures they cry about are grossly exaggerated. Many innocent people were also killed by their so called freedom fighters. Many atrocities were done by someone else and the blame was put on Pakistani Forces. Manipulation of India and support of India in Mukhti Bani (and similar organizations) did not help either. Anyway, now look at the sorry state of the country. Bangladesh needs course correction and sort out its affairs. I wish it the very best. Please do not drag us (Pakistan) into your politics too and become politically, economically & militarily independent.

After the war, Many people who migrated to Bangladesh departed with sadness and hoped that when it becomes politically stable, they can again be united. And I think the same situation must be present there in Bangladesh with the West Pakistani people.

Yeah they had many, but not enough to hold all positions. "Outsiders" such as Muslim migrants from India the so called Urdu speaking were desperately needed.
Don't forget that Bangal before partition had majority Hindu on all major position and they left after creation of Pakistan. The educated Bengali you are on about were mainly Hindus.

 

[Centaur]

Don't forget that Bangal before partition had majority Hindu on all major position and they left after creation of Pakistan. The educated Bengali you are on about were mainly Hindus.

Actually this linguistic propaganda was the main reason of the unrest in 1952 .
And Jinnah declared Urdu as the state language.i don't find any blunder of this declaration since Bengal Muslim wasn't too much educated. Since 1793 parmanent settlement imposed by conrwallis was the biggest blow for the former ruling class Muslims .
Hindus were clever and accepted British education system ,while muslims screwed themselves by rejecting it .
And also East India favoured Hindus ,not Muslims because former ruling class muslims were the real threat to their hegemony.
(Bengal wasn't directly under British empire that time)
However after the creation of Pakistan even Bengalis had few educated person so in Eest pakistan mostly Urdu speaking muhajirs were appointed in govt jobs specially in administrative areas.
And most of Muslim writers work was in urdu as under permanent settlement ,one ruling class muslims were living subhuman life under Hindu land lords, so it was not possible to do any creative work by bengalis so easily .
Considering those factor declaration of Urdu was the right decision from Mr Jinnah .
But again propaganda started about language .
The furious propaganda was ,' they want to Rob our mother language from us' .
Definitely this propaganda is meaningless for common folks as language can't be taken forcibly, language isn't land or money so west pakistan or anyone will rob it. This idea is just hilarious. And also language has nothing to do in order to form a nation. If someone speak in your Language simply he can't be part of your soceity .
This deep propaganda was actually imposed by hindutva who didn't want the creation of a separate Muslim country , so from the beginning they work against it.
West Pakistani and muhajir had hard time countering those propaganda because they were not local peoples.
Actually the reality is 1971 civil war was just chaotic situation and full of misunderstanding between two pakistani populace .
Yet there is no proof that east pakisani Bengalis did any movement against their mother land Pakistan.
Simply they were excited against military regime .
Unfortunately there was no land border between East and West pakistan. And it was not easy to rule such type of country.
Yet if Bengali were not opressed under Hindu land Lords under parmanent settlement ment, then Bengalis could provide lots of educated peoples in order to handle administrative jobs and other important jobs .
And such propaganda of language ,imparity would never stand .
But as I just said, muhajirs were not familiar to bengalis mind , so in order to control them East pakistan needed local educated Muslims but unfortunately they were few in numbers.

 

[Doctor Strange]

This deep propaganda was actually imposed by hindutva who didn't want the creation of a separate Muslim country , so from the beginning they work against it.

I read about the language issue and astonishingly all the madafaka started this nonsense issue were Hindus, Dhirendranath Datta, Prem Hari Burman, Bhupendra Kumar Datta and Sris Chandra Chattaopadhyaya. All elected through minority quota. Pakistan was following a progressive structure to give equal opportunity to its minorities but all the madafakas werent satisfied but deep hatred against it like they have for Bangladesh with an agenda to unite with its cousin india. Successfully they have brainwashed many people in BD and using them against BD's interests but one thing BD did good was by denying them any minority election quota. Now we can see them barking for 50 seats in the parliament. if allowed they will bring another disaster in BD. Bangladeshis lost a great opportunity by denying Urdu. It was great chance to be well versed in Urdu/hindi, Arabic, English and Bengali all these languages. The more language you learn more intelligent you become.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Its funny how if it werent for the insistence of the Bengali people Pakistan would never have existed.

If you cant learn from your mistakes you are doomed to repeat them in FATA and Balochistan.

Dreams dreams dreams.grow up dude.

Bangladesh must move on.all these genocide stories will create more hate.just remember that we both are Muslim nations and India is a Hindu state.every country see unfortunate circumstances and we also suffered badly but we must move on.

 

[Chris Logan]

Lol. No country in the world takes an armed rebellion lightly and neither did Pakistan army. Mukti Bahini were armed rebellion and were dealt with as such
As far as rape is concerned, Pakistan army was outnumbered and outgunned by many to one and having an election to rape or having the time to rape was out of question. Surviving another hour from Bengali hoard and saving self from attacking Indian army air forces and navy was the priority.
You try having an erection under such situation??


Yeah they had many, but not enough to hold all positions. "Outsiders" such as Muslim migrants from India the so called Urdu speaking were desperately needed.
Don't forget that Bangal before partition had majority Hindu on all major position and they left after creation of Pakistan. The educated Bengali you are on about were mainly Hindus.

the war was a 9 month struggle, when you suppress a people and discriminate and try to kill civilians you should expect a rebellion.

Dreams dreams dreams.grow up dude.

Bangladesh must move on.all these genocide stories will create more hate.just remember that we both are Muslim nations and India is a Hindu state.every country see unfortunate circumstances and we also suffered badly but we must move on.

You could say the same thing about Kashmir or Isreal, Just move on bro, ikt happened over 70 years ago, just draw the borders and move on.

people need closure and justice. if we do not learn from our mistakes we are doomed to repeat them

 

[Centaur]

Well said.

Pakistan was following a progressive structure to give equal opportunity to its minorities but all the madafakas werent satisfied but deep hatred against it like they have for Bangladesh with an agenda to unite with its cousin india. Successfully they have brainwashed many

Specially for this part, it was not cousin but mother India, and they are illegitimate children of India who pretend to be bengali but actually India. With their heart and soul. You see some are barking every time and now their target is to Islam and Muslim directly as many more good Online activists like pinaki Bhattacharya or such peoples stood against them?
However since 1947 this M.F s were active and that time communication wasn't too much easier, no internet that time .so countering them was extremely hard ,and almost impossible for muhajirs who hold the administrative positions for right reason.
As East pakistan that part was developing so fast as most jute Mills were founded and run by rich West Pakistani or muhajirs ,because simply east Pakistanis were too much poor . actually they became poor under Hindu land Lords .
So Pakistan was doing great , improvement was fast and steady. Yet why the propaganda?
Because our products was used as raw materials in Kolkata before pakistan . Hindus were beneficial and Muslim remain hungry.
Pakistan made many jute Mills in their eastern part so that their ( our )hungy peoples can have some jobs at least .
India lost the huge and almost free labour market of 45 million( that tim peoples ,so they were losing ground and becoming poor.
So propaganda starts that west pakistan is looting money ! What the heck !
Making jute Mills , giving them some job, trying to ending poverty doesn't mean that Pakistan looted money.
But was creating job and so that poor can eat .
And hindutva thugs propogate the opposite and bloody politicians used to dance with them as most politicians were greedy and also un educated .
Bangabandhu was follower of sohrawardi, yet his academic background was no match for sohrawardi.
And the rest were worse. So they easily fall prey to hindutva and did lots of wrong movement against motherland Pakistan .And if hindutva get any chance ,they will end the sovereignty of bangladesh and will try merging it will inda no doubt!

Finally in 1971 hindutva won and east pakistan or bangladesh what ever you call it lost the war.
In reality Pakistan lost the war against India and East pakistan is still suffering from identity crisis .

Successfully they have brainwashed many people in BD and using them against BD's interests but one thing BD did good was by denying them any minority election quota. Now we can see them barking for 50 seats in the parliament. if allowed they will bring another disaster in BD. will bring another disaster in BD.

Indeed , bengali didn't deny Urdu , it was few paid thugs of India who create every unrest.
And yes if hindutva get 50 seat ,it will a a chaos .
I hope awami league will not screw their position as long as hasina is leading them.
But after hasina I believe awami will be completely thug team .
But hopefully they can be reformed. As I have heard that army is controlling from behind .
If it's the reality I have no fear as I have faith on our military.
If it's not right then surely bangladesh will be screwed up again by chetona thugs.
Now India has captured our market, they annexed us culturally .
If such disaster happen ( 50+ seat ) Bangladesh I'll be in serious trouble.
The hindutva bastards are actually paid by RSS.

Bangladeshis lost a great opportunity by denying Urdu. It was great chance to be well versed in Urdu/hindi, Arabic, English and Bengali all these languages. The more language you learn more intelligent you become.

Indeed I agree with the part 100% . I believe chetona bastards understand it( and many other things) perhaps more than we do.
So they are devided us and ruling us.
@The Last Jedi

 

[Trango Towers]

Typical bomb blast mullah.

And sheikh Hassina is at the shrine of Modi.
what will all this achieve. time to move on.
fact is our ancestors were assholes. only country to gain was india.
Bangladesh cant even stand up to Myanmar. Hassina has made you slaves of india

 

[Arsalan 345]

the war was a 9 month struggle, when you suppress a people and discriminate and try to kill civilians you should expect a rebellion.


You could say the same thing about Kashmir or Isreal, Just move on bro, ikt happened over 70 years ago, just draw the borders and move on.

people need closure and justice. if we do not learn from our mistakes we are doomed to repeat them

No repeat in case of pakistan.dude we lost a small chunk of our land.largest portion of Pakistan still exists and Israel is a totally different conflict.it involves all Arabs as well.and for Kashmir,it can solve but India will not stop killing youths and Pakistan will not stop killing bsf.this will continue.

 

[TSA321]

Over three million people were killed and a quarter of a million women and young girls were dishonoured.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2017...-bangladesh-genocide-recognition-in-australia

Do most Bangladeshis still believe these nonsensical figures are correct?

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Bangladeshis lost a great opportunity by denying Urdu. It was great chance to be well versed in Urdu/hindi, Arabic, English and Bengali all these languages. The more language you learn more intelligent you become.

You are welcome to learn all the 6000 language in the world if you can and have that much of a zeal.But we are satisfied to learn only Bengali and English.We are very much happy that we lost the ''opportunity'' to learn an alien and useless language like Urdu.But perhaps, it is very much needed for you.Are you planning to migrate to Pakistan permanently?

Actually this linguistic propaganda was the main reason of the unrest in 1952 .
And Jinnah declared Urdu as the state language.i don't find any blunder of this declaration since Bengal Muslim wasn't too much educated. Since 1793 parmanent settlement imposed by conrwallis was the biggest blow for the former ruling class Muslims .
Hindus were clever and accepted British education system ,while muslims screwed themselves by rejecting it .
And also East India favoured Hindus ,not Muslims because former ruling class muslims were the real threat to their hegemony.
(Bengal wasn't directly under British empire that time)
However after the creation of Pakistan even Bengalis had few educated person so in Eest pakistan mostly Urdu speaking muhajirs were appointed in govt jobs specially in administrative areas.
And most of Muslim writers work was in urdu as under permanent settlement ,one ruling class muslims were living subhuman life under Hindu land lords, so it was not possible to do any creative work by bengalis so easily .
Considering those factor declaration of Urdu was the right decision from Mr Jinnah .
But again propaganda started about language .
The furious propaganda was ,' they want to Rob our mother language from us' .
Definitely this propaganda is meaningless for common folks as language can't be taken forcibly, language isn't land or money so west pakistan or anyone will rob it. This idea is just hilarious. And also language has nothing to do in order to form a nation. If someone speak in your Language simply he can't be part of your soceity .
This deep propaganda was actually imposed by hindutva who didn't want the creation of a separate Muslim country , so from the beginning they work against it.
West Pakistani and muhajir had hard time countering those propaganda because they were not local peoples.
Actually the reality is 1971 civil war was just chaotic situation and full of misunderstanding between two pakistani populace .
Yet there is no proof that east pakisani Bengalis did any movement against their mother land Pakistan.
Simply they were excited against military regime .
Unfortunately there was no land border between East and West pakistan. And it was not easy to rule such type of country.
Yet if Bengali were not opressed under Hindu land Lords under parmanent settlement ment, then Bengalis could provide lots of educated peoples in order to handle administrative jobs and other important jobs .
And such propaganda of language ,imparity would never stand .
But as I just said, muhajirs were not familiar to bengalis mind , so in order to control them East pakistan needed local educated Muslims but unfortunately they were few in numbers.

 

[Centaur]

You are welcome to learn all the 6000 language in the world if you can and have that much of a zeal.But we are satisfied to learn only Bengali and English.We are very much happy that we lost the ''opportunity'' to learn an alien and useless language like Urdu.But perhaps, it is very much needed for you.Are you planning to migrate to Pakistan permanently?

Don't beat around the bush sir. I am not hating bangla language, I am just hating creating unrest on this. So this bengali poetry attachment is irrelevant here. Try to learn how to stay on topic when arguing. Playing word game will not help you.

Majority pakistani were bengali, second was Punjabis . Now they are the majority still Urdu is the main language there and others are recognized too.
If Panjabis can accept it , if indian can accept Hindi as main language , then why Bengalis can't do that ?
Are they aliens from another planet or gods of Olympus that they need to be rebelled against anything ?
And how many peoples shot dead in 1952 ? 5 right ?
This number was not enough to erect chetona stick so later 3 million is propogated?
Still most of Bengalis don't found it arousing ,do they ?
Only fake hypocrites who are subservient to hindutva lords can reach in every silly things as thug wing in bangladesh is doing now . Once leader or chetona was people like choti pial.
Just make no sense .

 

[Doctor Strange]

You are welcome to learn all the 6000 language in the world if you can and have that much of a zeal.But we are satisfied to learn only Bengali and English.We are very much happy that we lost the ''opportunity'' to learn an alien and useless language like Urdu.But perhaps, it is very much needed for you.Are you planning to migrate to Pakistan permanently?

Idiot. Bangladeshi people now mostly know Hindi, which has not much of difference from Urdu. Only some persian infusion and the Arabic script. And Arabic language isnt also that much alien to Bangladeshis. The Urdu script could help more Arabic understanding. And people in need basis learn German, French, Korean etc. And dont talk about English, due to the zeal of choti bangla language people of BD mostly arent well versed with English. They arent much versed with Bangla as well due to their localised tone. All people of BD make some wierd Bangla tones apart from few people. Im blessed with that pure tone and from closest area of pure Bangla one. Dont start your BS with me. I'll rip you apart with logic. As I was chetonabadi like you last year alone, still ruler of BD with Awami link and muktijoddhar nati You guys are mental Indian with Bangladeshi residence, maybe you should now permanently migrate to India.

 

[Nabil365]

And sheikh Hassina is at the shrine of Modi.
what will all this achieve. time to move on.
fact is our ancestors were assholes. only country to gain was india.
Bangladesh cant even stand up to Myanmar. Hassina has made you slaves of india

Wait till those Americans spank you.
Heard Trump has already decided not to donate anymore.
Well beg somewhere else.

 

[Centaur]

Idiot. Bangladeshi people now mostly know Hindi, which has not much of difference from Urdu. Only some persian infusion and the Arabic script. And Arabic language isnt also that much alien to Bangladeshis. The Urdu script could help more Arabic understanding. And people in need basis learn German, French, Korean etc. And dont talk about English, due to the zeal of choti bangla language people of BD mostly arent well versed with English. They arent much versed with Bangla as well due to their localised tone. All people of BD make some wierd Bangla tones apart from few people. Im blessed with that pure tone and from closest area of pure Bangla one. Dont start your BS with me. I'll rip you apart with logic. As I was chetonabadi like you last year alone, still ruler of BD with Awami link and muktijoddhar nati You guys are mental Indian with Bangladeshi residence, maybe you should now permanently migrate to India.

And already someone proposed Hindi language and backbonless chetona thugs didn't say any single word on this .
All problem was with Urdu that is actually the language of Mughals.
They don't understand that hindustani version of Hindi is heavily influenced by Urdu .
Hindi that is based on pure sankskrit isn't understandable to common folks .
All Bollywood songs are mostly Urdu . Yet they listen all songs ,and when chetona stick is erected , want to remove zindabad word because it's Urdu .

Such zombies deserve no respect .

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Fake news.
None of that explains THIS Pakistani SS brigade
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Seriously tho, the British had east bengal colonized a lot longer than we had.

The British are responsible for the bengal famine during WW2 which killed way more Bengalis than the war in 71, and y'all are urging THEM to recognize the "genocide" in 71!?

Yo wtf man.

Two thirds of the entire population of Bengal died in the famine of 1776 under the British rule...

1m folks died during famine in 1974 under Mujib...

Mujib killed 40K ex-MB terrorists as they turned against him...