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Bangladesh urges Pakistan apology for 1971 ‘crimes’

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True, thankfully we differ in every aspect. I'm glad that Bangladesh which frankly was a huge liability for Pakistan is now on its own. We could have never bore the burden of a flooded Bangladesh. I know we are surrounded by countries like China who are our allies. There is huge potential and some people are raged out of jealousy. Don't worry dude, we don't pull nations backwards and don't form a burden on others. We have all the ingredients to become a tiger in this region and we will. No offence , but you just worry that you don't get consumed by water. One hell of a challenge if you ask me.

Thats the attitude I like. If we could get our own baggage sorted then we both could be a better friend. Friends can only bear others baggage for a certain time.
Water did become a curse for us but we are again priviledged by God given water, so people from all across the glove gathered here and made this the most poplulated land on earth. We still could feed 150 million of people with this scarce land.
We never wanted to have anybody to take our own baggage rather we carry them by ours own. Just look at the record, and see despite all the hardship we dont go to anybody for help. Bangladesh in its lifetime never late on its debt payment.
 
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Who gives a f*ck, let's apologise for our wrongdoings, what's the use of denying anything?
In the end, on judgement day, every single of us will be questioned by the allmighty himself, he wants us to solve our issues with eachother.
 
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Thats the attitude I like. If we could get our own baggage sorted then we both could be a better friend. Friends can only bear others baggage for a certain time.
Water did become a curse for us but we are again priviledged by God given water, so people from all across the glove gathered here and made this the most poplulated land on earth. We still could feed 150 million of people with this scarce land.
We never wanted to have anybody to take our own baggage rather we carry them by ours own. Just look at the record, and see despite all the hardship we dont go to anybody for help. Bangladesh in its lifetime never late on its debt payment.

Now the bloody Indians are taking our god given water.
 
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We followed a Islam which is hugely influenced by Sufi concept and we were converted by the Priests from Mecca and Yemen. Whereas in rest of the sub continent Islam came through mostly by persian, turks and mughal influene which calls for "Fear of Allah" whereas we call for "Love for Allah". This core concept made us inherently non violent.

Core teaching of Islam and 5 pillars are same in all places. So stop spreading bs and division on be half of indians and western crusade.
 
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Just look at the record, and see despite all the hardship we dont go to anybody for help.

Awami stooges just sell interest of Bangladesh. Vital textile sector, water, transport, defense all has been made victim of Awami sold out policy. That is worse than go to some one for help.
 
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Who gives a f*ck, let's apologise for our wrongdoings, what's the use of denying anything?
In the end, on judgement day, every single of us will be questioned by the allmighty himself, he wants us to solve our issues with eachother.

why to apologise for a f*ck ?
 
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No hard feelins my Bangladeshi brothers what BaburCM has said is right on spot and very true you should see his comments in positive manner..
I've respect for Bangladeshi brother but i think the title is unfair..It should be
" Pakistan asks apology from Bangladesh to backstab and inviting enemy at its gates" but then again without Bangladesh or ex-Pakistani territory we've managed to cluster Pakistan and moved on to become a nuclear Nation which is implacable to be harmed by the common enemies of Pakistan who once thought we did it we'll do it again and they do it again is neutralized...
look at the history and tell me there are so many nations would went thought many troubles but did not declare independence or inviting enemy to divide it such an example i find it only in Bangladesh...
 
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No hard feelins my Bangladeshi brothers what BaburCM has said is right on spot and very true you should see his comments in positive manner..
I've respect for Bangladeshi brother but i think the title is unfair..It should be
" Pakistan asks apology from Bangladesh to backstab and inviting enemy at its gates" but then again without Bangladesh or ex-Pakistani territory we've managed to cluster Pakistan and moved on to become a nuclear Nation which is implacable to be harmed by the common enemies of Pakistan who once thought we did it we'll do it again and they do it again is neutralized...
look at the history and tell me there are so many nations would went thought many troubles but did not declare independence or inviting enemy to divide it such an example i find it only in Bangladesh...

Why would the title be different? Did pakistan ask Bangladesh for an apology?

Well I dont want to take away anything from Pakistan. Pakistan had some very good achievement in defence including nuclear bomb but it has nothing to do for asking apoplogy for the crime committed in 1971.
Enemy's enemy became our friend. It just did not go to Pakistan's way.:smokin:
 
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iajdani this is the worst comment i've read by a senior Bangladeshi member enemy's enemy became "your friend" so u joined an enemy to backstab ur own brother? so u do accept as i thought that u Bangladeshis did invite enemy to divide Pakistan..i would assume the rest of Bangladeshi members won't take ur comment positive..go hand ur self and Bangladesh to India in a golden plate let them finger Bangladesh for the second time don't ask for help from your surroundings we can ask China to embargo you then enjoy ur suffocation without help no other help is coming. Prove the crime again i ask you for apology for the sinister crime of inviting enemy to divide ur nation into two u ppl committed instead of resolving problems inviting enemy at the gates to divide and abuse you have fun brother ur next flight should be delhi not Bangladesh because other bangladeshis might not welcome your enemy of ur enemy is ur friend statement:)trust me upon request China can choke u to death without military assistance and vice versa..
 
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Dhaka asks Pakistan to try its own 1971 war criminals
Dhaka, May 24 (bdnews24.com)— Foreign minister Dipu Moni on Sunday told a Pakistan minister that Islamabad should try its own war criminals for crimes in 1971 to "fulfil its international obligations".

Dipu Moni, now in Damascus to attend the 36th council of foreign ministers of the Organisation of Islamic Conference, made the call when Pakistan's state minister for foreign affairs Nawabzada Malik Amad Khan saw her on the sidelines of the meeting, according to a statement received from the Syrian capital on Sunday.

She told Khan that Bangladesh would try the war criminals as per the "internationally accepted legal standards".

This is the second time the foreign minister has urged Pakistan to try the genocide committed by its military and collaborators during Bangladesh's war of independence from Pakistan.

On May 12, Dipu Moni told high commissioner Alamgir Babar in Dhaka that Pakistan should make a formal apology for the killings of 30 million and rape and torture of 300,000 women and children.

A Pakistan foreign ministry spokesperson last week turned down Dhaka's call.

"In course of discussion Dipu Moni mentioned that as a pledge to the people of Bangladesh, the government will pursue the trial of the war criminals in Bangladesh according to internationally accepted legal standards and norms," the statement said.

It said the trial would be conducted impartially in a transparent way "without any victor's vengeance".

"She (Dipu Moni) commented that it was up to Pakistan itself to fulfil its international obligations by trying its own war criminals," the statement added.

Trying the war criminals is one of the election pledges of the newly elected Awami League government. Bangladesh parliament on Jan. 29 adopted a resolution for speedy trial of the war criminals.

Dipu Moni also inquired about the latest situation in Swat valley where Pakistan army had been carrying all-out military offensive against Taliban fighting for setting up Islamic laws.

She expressed sympathies for the displaced persons in the affected regions.

She hoped Pakistan would overcome all these difficulties and life return to normal, the statement said.


The foreign minister also saw Iraqi foreign minister Hoshyar Zaberi, Lebanese counterpart Fawzi Salloukh, foreign minister of the Philippines Alberto Gatmaitan Romulo, foreign minister of Bahrain Shaikh Khalid Bin Ahmed Bin Mohamed Al Khalifa, Oman's foreign minister Yusuf bin Alawi bin Abdullah and Sri Lankan deputy minister for foreign affairs Hussein Bhaila

She expressed deep sympathies for the victims of the military operation against the Tamil Tiger rebels.

She told the Sri Lankan minister that "with the end to the conflict now peace and harmony would be attained which would pave the way for development".
 
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iajdani this is the worst comment i've read by a senior Bangladeshi member enemy's enemy became "your friend" so u joined an enemy to backstab ur own brother? so u do accept as i thought that u Bangladeshis did invite enemy to divide Pakistan..i would assume the rest of Bangladeshi members won't take ur comment positive..go hand ur self and Bangladesh to India in a golden plate let them finger Bangladesh for the second time don't ask for help from your surroundings we can ask China to embargo you then enjoy ur suffociation without help no other help is coming. Prove the crime again i ask you for apology for the sinister crime of inviting enemy to divide ur nation into two u ppl committed instead of resolving problems inviting enemy at the gates to divide and abuse you have fun brother ur next flight should be delhi not Bangladesh because others in bangladeshis might not welcome your enemy of ur enemy is ur friend statement:)trust me upon reqguest China can choke u to death without military assistance and vice versa..

It was the question of survival brother... Pakistani army started anhiliation of Bengalis so people had no other place to go. 10 million people became refugee... JOKE?

Well regarding China... I did not know they are so submissive to Pakistan. You wanna give it a try???
 
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Enemy's enemy became our friend. It just did not go to Pakistan's way.:smokin:

You belong to well known section in our soil that won't hesitate to back stab Muslim to implement Hindu agenda. You and your forefather already weaken Muslim power in SA and literally gave away superpower ability to Hindu India and now you are in the same mission to derail pak-bangla reunification when we are gradually making progress but still though Ummate Muslimah will not go quiet without a fight.
 
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iajdani this is the worst comment i've read by a senior Bangladeshi member enemy's enemy became "your friend" so u joined an enemy to backstab ur own brother? so u do accept as i thought that u Bangladeshis did invite enemy to divide Pakistan..i would assume the rest of Bangladeshi members won't take ur comment positive..

Brother don't worry about him and his people. Bangladeshi is divided. He is Bengali first and Muslim only second. He only use Islamic identity to get so dough from Islamic world otherwise he will not hesitate to back stab them. Munafiqat comes in mind.
 
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.....look at the history and tell me there are so many nations would went thought many troubles but did not declare independence or inviting enemy to divide it such an example i find it only in Bangladesh...

Those nations--if at all any--lacked severely in self-respect.

Pak Army's carnage on human life & dignity in 1971 was the last solid proof that Pakistani politicians & Army have no respect in Islam--at least on issues of those days.

So, our boys decided to go for independence. Islam never teaches a muslim to play blind to those muslims who kill and rape other human beings (irrespective of religion) because they are muslims.

I myself is a Muslim and Freedom Fighter without any political loyalty (at that time) and 95% of all FFs were like me. Pure AL activists joined in higher numbers after June-July 71 when FFs' resistance appeared to be really sustainable, and Mujib Bahini was formed in Dehradun by RAW so that they can snatch the leadership & 'ownership-of-freedom struggle' once Bangladesh is free. Yet we took as far assistance India provided us that time, and shall not deny that today. We knew fully clear that certain string is attached to that package of assistance, and perhaps we have to shed more blood to battle a second enemy-in-the-process but we also knew that we--at this very moment--must protect us and our diginity from the 'rogue' brothers who used Islam to exploit us.

Later---after we lost each other---it was found that Pakistan still has some islamic fabric on, so we tried to extend our best to Pakistan, its Army & people. On the other hand, we found India did many good and bad to us---but none so nakedly as 'genocide' and rape.

In fact Pakistan made us suffer also as "Muslims' by making us face questions like: How could Islam allow muslims do such thing to another muslims ? Bads done by India never surpassed the pain inflicted by this salt of question to our raw & open bleeding injury---because here sufferers are 2: we and Islam.

Now, unless you apologise for the crimes Pak Army & politicinas perpetrated or do not pay Bangladesh its due, if any, you still remain as a state of criminal muslims. You may be required to pay debts in your own coins by undergoing severe opressions by USA or even India or by your own talibans. Poetic justice can occur.

So, please, do not be too rude to Bangladeshis to whom you have committed serious crimes. 'Tawba' for unlawful grasping of someothers 'haquk' or wealth is not accepted by Allah and Allah does not pardon him till the sufferer does not pardon---you sure know that.

Nuke or any thing will not save you from Allah's wrath if really your Army & politicians had done wrongs to people of the-then-East Pakistan---even few of those were non-muslims. Please do more self-searching & -criticism to ascertain your past mistakes, if any. The best way, if you find the truth, will be to apologize and settle the score amicably.

I have travelled both Pakistan and India recently. As a Muslim I must tell the truth:

1. People of both countries are friendly to Bangladesh. Pakistanis look at Bangladeshis as brothers, and privately apologize the mistakes of the past. Few also check out whether we know that India is not a real friend. Indians look at Bangladeshis as good neighbours, and few just check out that we have not forgotten the 1971 assistance. Indians are vastly more secular than they had been 10 years back, and more focussed on economic progress than religious issues. Muslims in India are quite happy to be Indians and are highly patriotic. Here I stumbled by thinking why Pakistan could not be above regional disparity so as to make the former East Pakistanis equally happy and patriotic. Indian political leadership appear to be highly matured and responsible than Pakistanis' or Bangladeshis'. India indeed has made spectcular progress. I wonder why India is so friendless among SAARC ? They must find out their fault here, and redress appropriately to get 'Neighbors' Certificate' on their way to greater arena

2. Indians, in general, do not have high respect in RAW, and are not much aware in (I) activities of RAW in Bangladesh (II) Plight of Bangladesh due to Farrakka. They are too pre-occupied in own issues to fight their Govt. on our behalf. Pakistanis are more interested to speak of Islam than to demonstrate Islamic justice or behaviour. If Indians are found to be self-centered, it is understood and is not painful whereas when Pakistanis are found selfish with Islamic slogans at the mouth only, it pains---because Bangladeshis tend to see Indians as 'neighbours' and Pakistanis as 'brothers'.

3. If India continues to shed 'communalism' at the current rate, and becomes 'truly' more secular, and can maintain the parity between various states at current rate, one day Bangladeshis may repent for 'those years with Pakistan'. However, it will be unlikely that Bangladesh would like to be part of Union of India because they already purchased Independence at very high rate of bloods. On the other hand---based on how fast India is changing positively with trustworthy attitude of parity among its own states and population--India, Pakistan and Bangladesh now should think of forming a greater Union. Under current progressive Indian model of central administration, Islam is not under any threat.

4. If India Govt. shows sensible attitude towards Bangladesh in respect of Farakkha, Tipaimukh, and Trade deficit etc., and refrain from one-eyed attitude to AL Govt., and do not press hard for Corridor etc. Bangladesh and India may grew as very good friends. Similarly if Pakistan apologizes to Bangladesh and settle its scores, if any, and shows few more friendly acts in Islamic way, Pakistan too will become like brothers to all Bangladeshis. AL propaganda will not last too long.
 
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True words from a great man....thats all what i can say bout straight sir.......btw,regarding india......we indians were shown by the consequences, what a gujrat riot can do to our country,how it can destabilize us,loot our unity.....i am proud to say,we learned our lesson from that,we voted a secular party back to power this year......we regard all in india as indians,not as hindus or muslims.......and the only way to hold this unity,is a secular identity.....not a 'i am hindu' or 'i am muslim' attitude....but a 'i am indian' one......religious extrimism be it hindutva or islamic leads to destability........which was the case of bd......coz the islamic bengali culture is an unique and a very beautifull one,which is best to be left alone and let flourish.....not try to impose something upon...
 
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