Bangladesh targets 7.8% economic growth in new fiscal year

[Gibbs]

Again, you guys open up threads with nothing to back it up with.

There's always those hundreds of CGI's ???

 

[UKBengali]

More people in Pakistan have cars than BD so yes they will be driving on those expressways. 500 KM journey from Peshawar to Lahore takes few hours since driving is a pleasure on those roads. You are building Hospitals? Makes me wonder what those millions of people are doing in India for simple health check-ups.

Your Government does not think differently. Its one of the most corrupt in the world just check the Corruption Perception Index. Its 30 positions lower than Pakistan.



How about a good quality of life? There are 2 million people in Islamabad who enjoy a standard of living similar to the one in the west.

Dude, how good were you at mathematics at school?

2 million x 40,000 US dollars per GDP capita PPP = 80 billion US dollars PPP just for 2 million Islamabad!

If you guys have trouble making a simple 4 lane road it's quite obvious you can't build a city. There is a reason why traffic in Dhaka is so horrendous because everything in your country is inside Dhaka and nowhere else. Compare Dhaka to Lahore (Population of 10 million). If I post pictures of Lahore you will have trouble keeping up because despite being a 10 million mega city its quite aesthetic in most of the areas. The roads are wide, its clean for a city of 10 million, well maintained by the local government and generates revenue/income at the same time. And above all most of the people in our cities live in nice big houses rather than cramped shady looking apartments like BD . In people from lower middle class have open big houses rather the 1 bedroom apartments you guys live in.

Who says we have trouble making a 4-lane road?
2 have already been built and a 3rd one is in construction. More have been approved and work will start in this financial year.

About the size of living quarters, so what? People in Japan live in tiny apartments and they are one of the most developed countries in the world. BD does not have as space as Pakistan and so living place will naturally be smaller

Lastly check out RSTP 2016-2035 that is already in the works. Already the 1st metro line, 1st bus rapid-transport line and 1st Elevated expressway are in construction as per this plan. It will cost 40 billion US dollars in total and will give Dhaka and the surrounding areas world-class transport infrastructure.


Sorry dude but you have a severe case of butt-hurt at BD.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Fair dinkum.. But i suppose you forgot it was Ramadan when you posted these





Guess its just a momentary lapse..

NO respect for neo-nazis, even in ramadan...

 

[Nilgiri]

Are you sure about that investment part? Or you are just taking future 'potential' investments spannings over a long time as Its achieved investements? Because BD's annual FDI is nothing close to that( around 25-30% of that figure in total). @Nilgiri @bluesky

Its not actual commited/greenfield investment....not even close to it. It is similar to MOU aggregation. Just watch how much actually transpires and over what length (as usual). Its like saying India has 1 trillion investment in next 5 - 10 years, coz MOUs. Good for feelz, not great for reality.

some people are dancing like monkeys that they have beat Pakistan obviously some big achievement for Bangladesh but the thing is that IMF & other institutions are working on Pakistan GDP calculations which according to all of them is too much underrated hence there is no projection for Pakistan GDP beyond 2017.

Pakistan real GDP calculation might come bt the end of this year as WB is working on it which on a conservative estimate will be higher by 20% at least from current figures.

I hear all the time by Bangalis that their GDP is bigger than Pakistan but i dont see this in consumption pattern of any commodity or house hold income of Bangladeshis as @Nilgiri rightly said Bangladesh figures dont support the actual situation on ground.

Exactly! Don't you worry, Pakistan is doing much better than Bangladesh (Read rest of this thread for an idea why)

This Bihari slum dog

@SOUTHie @Gibbs @HeinzG lol.

This idiot was just mixing up the two.

According to who? You? The one that ran away here and couldn't answer a basic (non-google available) question?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/at-c...ta-income-by-2020.560772/page-9#post-10533136

Now if you "black cats" want to show me some non-google, non copy-paste economic capability/logic of yours, tell me why there is a difference between the ratio of constant/current GDP per capita when its non-PPP (76%) and PPP (93%) for BD.

= crickets

Nilgiri is not an angel neither is a Prophet that whatever he says is correct. He is nothing more than a Bihari slum dog troll.

Neengu seriyana mutthal. Oru nai + oru aadu = karrupu bong poonai. @SOUTHie

well thats true but if someone is quoting facts and figures cant be wrong.....and if the economy situation which includes per capita, gets better the immediate effect is on consumption pattern which is not the fact in Bangladesh.......see while as per you guys Pakistan per capita is lower then Bangladesh now but still Pakistan retail sector and consumption is fastest in the world and average Pakistani consume every thing almost double then average Bangladeshi.

We are more then happy to see Bangladesh progress and we wish them best as Pakistanis are normally happy people with every thing.....but there is some thing really fishy in the figures your govt quote and consumption patterns whic is direct effect of per capita increase.

Just keep reading this thread

This is the reason why Indian real GDP is now higher than it's nominal GDP.In the last 10 year, Indian rupee gone from $1=42 INR to $1=67 INR, a depreciation of 60% against dollar.On the other hand Bangladeshi Taka gone from $1=68 BDT to $1=84 BDT, a depreciation of just 24%. In the last decade, both country's inflation rate did not have much wide gap and it's role in nominal GDP differential is rather sub ordinate to currency depreciation. To avoid this distortion caused by differential rate of currency depreciation against Dollar and inflation rate, it is safe to stick to either Real GDP per capita in exchange rate in constant Dollar or PPP per capita in constant dollar.I prefer the PPP per capita in constant dollar for 3 reasons-

1.Inflation adjusted.
2.No distortion caused by currency exchange rate fluctuation.
3.It gives a balanced picture of purchasing power and living standard across the countries. Specially for both developed and developing countries.

Our current real GDP figure is less than the nominal figure and for India's case it is the opposite.But this is not given for all times.If our currency start depreciating much faster rate than Rupee than a time will come when our real GDP figure will be higher than Nominal figure. During BNP times in 2001-2006 when Taka depreciated much faster against dollar and gone from $1=40 BDT to $1=65 BDT within 5 years, our real GDP figure was higher than Nominal figure. These things are only important if we want to compare GDP per capita in nominal terms.But if we compare in real GDP per capita or PPP per capita in constant dollar, then we don't need to worry about these things or to get confused. Now look at some data-

In 2018, GDP PPP per capita in 2011 constant dollar-
Bangladesh-4,062
India-6,933 - 70% higher than BD
Pakistan-5,056 - 24% higher than BD

In 2006, GDP PPP per capita in 2011 constant dollar-
Bangladesh-2,199
India-3,506 - 59% higher than BD
Pakistan-4,088 - 86% higher than BD

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2018/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=70&pr.y=13&sy=2000&ey=2018&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=513,564,534&s=NGDPRPPPPC&grp=0&a=

Note here that, Pakistan achieved per capita GDP PPP 12 years ago of what Bangladesh achieved just by now! Before 2009, Pakistan's GDP per capita was even higher than India for all along. So some of the things which Pakistan is much ahead of BD or even India, can be realized from these data. Average Pakistani's asset value is twice of a Bangladeshi, it is even higher than an Indian. Reflecting the previous comparative prosperity of Pakistanis. Although both Indians and Bangladeshis are closing this asset gap quickly due to faster rise of per capita GDP, still it will take few years for Indians and a longer time for Bangladesh(15 years at least) to achieve parity with Pakistan. For this same reason Pakistan's household electricity connection and ownership of some other household durable and non durable goods is more than Bangladesh or India. On naked eyes, Pakistan looks much prosperous country than Bangladesh or even in some cases than India. Pakistan's road infrastructure development is also much ahead of Bangladesh and only recently India catched up with them. So although we are touching Pakistan in per capita GDP within next few years, but it will take some more year to reflect that closing on the ground.
@UKBengali @Ashik Mahmud @Bilal9 @TopCat @bluesky @mb444

Would it kill you to just summarize this into 3 lines? There is no need to waffle for your fellow parasites.

Your attempted explanation (depreciation of rupee) holds limited merit....because unfortunately the scale is waaay off.

First you quote "last 10 years" when the base year is 2010 for the constant dollar snapshot. Since we are comparing from 2010 to 2016 with the standardised World Bank data, thats a 6 year time period at most.

During that time period BDT depreciated from 69 to 79. INR from 46 to around 66. So yes this would have some effect on the current dollar denominator in my previous analysis.

But the key differences you overlook (because you are pretty useless past surface waffle):

a) Accumulation of USD forex of the two countries in this time period and the effect that has. Let's see if you can explain even one iota on it.

b) Fact that bulk of the effect happened in India for time period 2011 - 2013:

So simply lets add the before and after growth amounts through that period to see what the current denominator would be if that didnt happen (why it happened I will explain a bit later). Its about 200 billion USD per year (before and after). So simply since its 2 year time of this depreciation effect, lets add 400 billion to the hypothetical denominator for today (2016) to get 2.664 trillion USD. This still gives a constant/current ratio of:

2465/2664 = 93% (compared to 108% reality today).

This is still NOWHERE NEAR the atrocious ratio found in Bangladesh (given its low forex + LDC) of 76%.

For India to be around 76%, we would need a current US denominator of near 3 trillion in 2016. That would have been some reckless destructive long term inflation indeed.

In fact the 2011 - 2013 depreciation blip was very much a delayed asset inflation bubble bursting (when it comes to USD vs INR) caused by the world situation at that point. This is the whole point of how inflation has an imprint (immediate or delayed depending on the liquidity inertia forces concerned) on depreciation/appreciation in the first place. You can find similar trends in Indonesia and Thailand too.

But the scale of whats going to happen in Bangladesh at some point (given the reckless inflation being dumped upon the masses) is truly going to be something else. You can moan about the base year being longer ago, but there is a reason why BD govt is now developing real cold feet on rebasing to a newer year given what the HIES 2016 results showed w.r.t real income (which was supposed to be a large chunk of the re-basing input).

c) Your moaning about "real consumption" not being that different would have showed up in ICP matrix by now and factored into last cycle of PPP data given they are prepping for ICP 2017 release (in 2019). Remember you made that bold, shameless prediction that BD would get a significant PPP multiplier some time back? Well it didn't happen. That is the failure of your low consumption, high inflation LDC country....ultra-reliant on just one low IQ industry of chaddi stitching.

Thanks for the input. Quite educational.
@Nilgiri

Re-read what I was typing. I get now where you were coming from (but you simply misunderstood what I am saying).....given my response was to those saying BD will surpass Pakistan in GDP blah blah. When they were making such statement, it concerned current GDP terms (which includes inflation)....the raw growth of which includes effective inflation....i.e BD growing by like 13%+ yearly on it:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=BD-PK-IN

(includes effective inflation) i.e:

221.4/195 = 1.135 (13.5% growth) for BD
279/270.5 = 1.03 (3.1% growth) for Pakistan
2264/2090 = 1.083 (8.3% growth) for India

When we are talking about growth rate of 7.8% (as OP title has, and then topcat idiotically referenced current USD level for "surpassing"), it is on constant (real) basis (whether you measure in Taka or USD)...that is indeed the international standard for quoting growth. But here you are simply not close to Pakistan or India (level wise):

167.8/156.6 = 1.072 (7.2% growth) for BD.... (per capita level = 87% of Pakistan and 55% of India)
227.7/215.9 = 1.055 (5.5% growth) for Pakistan
2465/2301 = 1.071 (7.1% growth) for India

(you will notice that total GDP in constant real terms for Pakistan is going to stay ahead of BD for forseeable future)...the very thing topcat was falsely claiming will be surpassed (which is the inflation ridden measure that BD is growing at 13.5% as earlier shown...NOT the 7.8% of the OP article which is this following graph):

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD?locations=BD-PK

My issue is with the people saying BD will surpass Pakistan in total GDP level....and then quote "7.8% growth" in the same vein....when the former regards current USD (inflation-ridden) level and the latter regards constant (real) USD level. The latter is obviously the better standard (given inflation is subtracted), but Pakistan remains about 8 years ahead in total GDP terms and some years ahead in per capita terms still by that (7.8% real growth) standard.

Now that 7.8% growth figure prediction (and BD growth in general) being the "real" component to begin with and not having any inflation laundered into it still is a different subject altogether depending on BBS assay quality.

Pakistan is a lost cause, beyond any hope if i concur frankly . Their willingness to invest more toward sunkhole called military expenditure is beyond reason and truly worrysome actually. They actually failed to invest more toward education, health and good governance sector (reformation in civil sector), at long terms it will be India and Bangladesh to dominating economic activities in much South Asia. The only saving grace of Pakistan is they had already placed infrastructure in transportation, logistic, energy and some heavy industry leftover from their robust Economic activities during 60's to 80's decaded but without robust private sector (in which the growth will be halted because of their failed investment toward human sector of their country like health and education) their economy will be deteroriate any further.

@Nilgiri @django

Nah Pakistan is doing OK (but of course much to be improved) given they have no easy RMG quota access from LDC classification. Bangladesh is a severely low consumption country that lucked out on LDC help from others for a stationary, sedentary, low IQ activity of stitching clothes. Then they launder their inflation as real growth to look better on paper (when zero of their non-RMG industries are actually growing in any significant rate)...simply so they can borrow more money on GDP denominator and kick the can of inflation etc to the future (when that bursts). There is a reason why Pakistani americans earn significantly more than BD americans (who are near the bottom) AND one can easily find the patent/science output per capita for these two countries.

Just look at their energy consumption even today (remember this is the often the best and most consistent correlation to actual non-propaganda GDP for large population countries needing industry/production especially if you have read enough economic theory):

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.USE.PCAP.KG.OE?locations=BD-IN-PK

222 kg of oil equivalent per capita in 2014. You have to go what...the 60s? or even before that to see that level of consumption in India and Pakistan. Feel free to put in many african countries and compare those to Bangladesh as well.

@Khan_21 @farhan_9909

When you take away things BD can easily manipulate...you are left with such consumption stats like this one. When you look at social development too, its also easy to see that BD is lieing/manipulating a lot of those too:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tota...n-in-bangladesh-in-2011.561639/#post-10537580

It is much much easier to pass off a certain % of deaths as never being born in a few ASFR bands (to get both much better mortality rate and thus life expectancy AND claim lower fertility rate at the same time) BUT its a lot harder to fudge child marriage and teen pregnancy rates...hence this dissonance we see in ONLY Bangladesh (please find me one more country if you can):

But don't need to take my word, just watch and see.

Pakistan's per capita gdp in ppp was 86% higher than BD just 12 years ago, now it is just 24% higher. Pakistan's runaway population growth and lower GDP growth rate will ensure that, this gap will close and eventually reverse within 5-6 years.

Currently an Indian has gdp ppp per capita of 70% higher than a Bangladeshi. Note that, Indian base year is relatively up to date, using 2015-2016 base year, while we are still stuck at 2005-2006. Plus, if we exclude the Vedic calculation in Indian economic data and Modi magic effect which even the top economists are scratching their head to understand India's Vedic GDP growth, then we can safely conclude that, India's GDP ppp per capita is no more than 25%-30% higher than BD in reality and the vast majority Indian have lower living standard than an average Bangladeshi barring a few pocket of prosperity in Gurgaon, Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, Goa and some other capital cities.

Again ICP matrix would not be susceptible to base year effects in first place (if you know one iota how that data is gathered and analysed yearly for periodic revisions). So you are in effect spouting hot air.

If anything with HIES 2016, Bangladesh is now in danger of shrinking its GDP by a re-basing effect. Its why BAL govt is now proceeding much more slowly on it. Again you are free to verify this happening....I know its painful after your ridiculous earlier prediction of BD getting some magic PPP multiplier upgrade....WHICH NEVER HAPPENED....it should have by now.....Tuesday, you see, she had to be free (as van Zant sung)....I somehow you've got to carry on

But Indian economy is a giant compared to what bd is... in Indian subcontinent... yes bd is doing better than most but I believe this growth is mainly due to the current size, investment opportunities etc... if we can maintain current growth when our gdp reaches india’s Current gdp value should be the question.

BD is not doing better than most, sorry to say. Please read this post.

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Seriously @bluesky its sad that BD quack doctor (homo-not-sapient) is spending this much time here typing nonsense, when a cpl lines would suffice in what hes trying to explain....and he can use the extra time to do his bit in preventing BD medical refugees from having to go to India and spend hard earned money there.

 

[Khan_21]

Dude, how good were you at mathematics at school?

2 million x 40,000 US dollars per GDP capita PPP = 80 billion US dollars PPP just for 2 million Islamabad!

Who says we have trouble making a 4-lane road?
2 have already been built and a 3rd one is in construction. More have been approved and work will start in this financial year.

About the size of living quarters, so what? People in Japan live in tiny apartments and they are one of the most developed countries in the world. BD does not have as space as Pakistan and so living place will naturally be smaller

Lastly check out RSTP 2016-2035 that is already in the works. Already the 1st metro line, 1st bus rapid-transport line and 1st Elevated expressway are in construction as per this plan. It will cost 40 billion US dollars in total and will give Dhaka and the surrounding areas world-class transport infrastructure.


Sorry dude but you have a severe case of butt-hurt at BD.

It's not me talking it's the people from abroad who share that view.

https://www.diplomaatia.ee/en/article/a-visit-to-pakistan/

My journey began in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan. Islamabad, meaning Abode of Islam, is Pakistan’s government and financial center. It’s an affluent city built 40 years ago at the base of the Margalla Hills. Pakistan’s capital looks more like a wealthy American suburb than the government center of a developing nation – immaculately kept tree-lined sidewalks, large forested parks, three story homes with multiple Mercedes parked out front

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/19/world/asia/19taxes.html

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Much of Pakistan’s capital city looks like a rich Los Angeles suburb. Shiny sport utility vehicles purr down gated driveways. Elegant multistory homes are tended by servants. Laundry is never hung out to dry.

Being compared to LA and a rich American suburb is a high compliment for a city of a developing country. The Houses in Islamabad wouldn't look out of place in Beverly Hills.

Large Parts of Lahore have now started to look exactly Like that too.


Except that the ones in Japan are of high quality unlike the ones in BD. Yeap and when is the completion due? When it gets completed tag me because in my experience they don't. You have been going on about these projects for decades now but nothing on the ground. Well I don't find any Pakistani opening threads about BD. It's usually the posters from your side who are always opening up threads about how they are surpassing Pakistan.

 

[Nilgiri]

It's not me talking it's the people from abroad who share that view.

https://www.diplomaatia.ee/en/article/a-visit-to-pakistan/

My journey began in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan. Islamabad, meaning Abode of Islam, is Pakistan’s government and financial center. It’s an affluent city built 40 years ago at the base of the Margalla Hills. Pakistan’s capital looks more like a wealthy American suburb than the government center of a developing nation – immaculately kept tree-lined sidewalks, large forested parks, three story homes with multiple Mercedes parked out front

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/19/world/asia/19taxes.html

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Much of Pakistan’s capital city looks like a rich Los Angeles suburb. Shiny sport utility vehicles purr down gated driveways. Elegant multistory homes are tended by servants. Laundry is never hung out to dry.

Being compared to LA and a rich American suburb is a high compliment for a city of a developing country. The Houses in Islamabad wouldn't look out of place in Beverly Hills.

Large Parts of Lahore have now started to look exactly Like that too.


Except that the ones in Japan are of high quality unlike the ones in BD. Yeap and when is the completion due? When it gets completed tag me because in my experience they don't. You have been going on about these projects for decades now but nothing on the ground. Well I don't find any Pakistani opening threads about BD. It's usually the posters from your side who are always opening up threads about how they are surpassing Pakistan.

Its little use. These people are still consuming energy per capita that India and Pakistan did in the 50s and 60s (I kid you not, look at my earlier post above)....I think it has affected their logic circuits quite badly (from even forming). This has led to propaganda and feelz filling the void of the ego (like say super duper life expectancy on BBS-stronk paper but with 1 million medical refugees yearly to India for basic 50s/60s tech things).

Why do you think they based their very existence as a country on 3 million-blah blah?

@django @Desert Fox @Valar. @Major Sam @Pluralist

 

[MAB]

I always see so many thread on Bangladeshi development etc but I never see any evidence. If you ever visit skyscrapercity (premier forum to track development in different countries) and look at the Bangladeshi section it is completely dead. Compared to Pakistan or India. So Bangladesh is growing at 7 percent with nothing to show for it? While Pakistan with its measly 5 percent growth completes project after project.

Pakistan: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451

Bangladesh: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928

 

[DarkPrince]

What's the use of shiny airport and 6 lane highways when 42 percent of your population can not read and write? Vast majority of your population is not going to drive SUV on those expressways nor they are going to do holiday trip overseas using those new airport anytime soon. You be happy with those roads and airport, we think differently, govt. is thinking about universal pension in Bangladesh now.We will build highways and airports according to our need. We will rather utilize the existing system to it's fullest and then go for new things, in the meantime will build more powerplant, LNG terminal, Rail tracks, sea ports, school, hospital, Industrial plants, IT parks etc. Your priority and our priority are different.

Another thing is Pakistan is for rich people. you can live like a king in Pakistan if you are rich. In a huge beautiful house in Islamabad. But in Bangladesh rich or poor we live a humble life. (Apart from Bilal bhai's 300 taka tea of course )

 

[Khan_21]

Its little use. These people are still consuming energy per capita that India and Pakistan did in the 50s and 60s (I kid you not, look at my earlier post above)....I think it has affected their logic circuits quite badly (from even forming). This has led to propaganda and feelz filling the void of the ego (like say super duper life expectancy on BBS-stronk paper but with 1 million medical refugees yearly to India for basic 50s/60s tech things).

Why do you think they based their very existence as a country on 3 million-blah blah?

@django @Desert Fox @Valar. @Major Sam @Pluralist

My analysis of Bangladeshi's is that it stems from insecurity. I had alot of friends from Bangladesh in Malaysia and they always complained about how nobody ever knew anything about Bangladesh. It's a combination of not being known around the world and the insecurities of India/Pakistan being much more well-known countries. Let's be honest how many famous people can we name from Bangladesh despite living closer to them?. They act out and try really hard to get noticed.

I kid you not there was a party all night long from their side in KL when they won a cricket match from Pakistan after 16 years. When they get one over us it gives them a sense of importance.

 

[mb444]

I always see so many thread on Bangladeshi development etc but I never see any evidence. If you ever visit skyscrapercity (premier forum to track development in different countries) and look at the Bangladeshi section it is completely dead. Compared to Pakistan or India. So Bangladesh is growing at 7 percent with nothing to show for it? While Pakistan with its measly 5 percent growth completes project after project.

Pakistan: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451

Bangladesh: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928

Look up Bangladesh paradigm it may help you understand the issue at greater depth. I would also suggest you look up PK national debt vis a vis BD as a percent of GDP.

Our progress is lifting all our population up not only a segment. This is why our social indicators are so much ahead of yours. Average BD live longer than yours.....enough said.

 

[Khan_21]

I always see so many thread on Bangladeshi development etc but I never see any evidence. If you ever visit skyscrapercity (premier forum to track development in different countries) and look at the Bangladeshi section it is completely dead. Compared to Pakistan or India. So Bangladesh is growing at 7 percent with nothing to show for it? While Pakistan with its measly 5 percent growth completes project after project.

Pakistan: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451

Bangladesh: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928

There is no development in BD on ground. Everything is on paper. Karachi's skyline is moving at a fast pace . We already have a 300 Meter Skyscraper and dozens of 100 meter buildings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Karachi

While Dhaka which is growing at 7 % has 5 buildings which are above 100 meter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Dhaka

They open these threads to make them feel happy but end up getting even more delusional.

 

[mb444]

Let's be honest how many famous people can we name from Bangladesh despite living closer to them?. They act out and try really hard to get noticed.

That’s a comment on your education but happily you can rectify it.

 

[Khan_21]

That’s a comment on your education but happily you can rectify it.

Bangladeshi's opening up threads on Pakistan all day long tells you the level of insecurity. Lets be honest nobody gives 2 cents about Bangladesh or what they think worldwide.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

When I see Pakistani and Indian folks showing down BDers, I don't know, I feel really weird. When the same thing is done by affluent Europeans or Americans --or these days more likely nuvo-riche Chinese-- it becomes mortal sin. But among ourselves we constantly showing them down, in a very condescending manner.

A much perplexing thing is that these guys have been independent since 71. A year which many people among my siblings can call a near past.

For all of their 'punching above their weight' Jumla, Pakistan forgets that its BD folks who have constantly punched above their weight. Be it freedom struggle or socio-economic parameters. Heck without any CPEC level investment they are out growing your country should make you question your country's direction and potential. Heck I remember reading about few students from BD who have competed in ACM-PC and won laurels. Best you have to show for are some 'script kiddies' whom you call 'cyber army'.

And fellow Indians: If a country which became independent in your known memory and can now dare to challenge India in economy, its worthy of praise. Perhaps our astute policy makers can learn some lessons from them.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Another thing is Pakistan is for rich people. you can live like a king in Pakistan if you are rich. In a huge beautiful house in Islamabad. But in Bangladesh rich or poor we live a humble life. (Apart from Bilal bhai's 300 taka tea of course )

Bangladesh is the same... the poor suffers... while the rich live in dhanmondi/ uttara etc... the poor lives in gandaria xD