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We have tot to build Minerva class corvettes? o_O

I believe what he meant to say was that we have ToT to build the class of corvettes we plan to build. In our case that would be the current standard ASW corvette C13B class (1300 tons), a derivative of the PLAN 056 class, two of which will be built locally in the next few years. Third/Fourth hulls already almost completed in China so this would mean we will have six (Maybe eight) by 2020.

Is this from a reputed source ? Sounds pure fanboyish. :lol:

With recent fleet additions/expansions as well as planned/ongoing naval builds locally and abroad, Bangladesh Navy fleet is now slightly larger than Pakistan Navy and second only to Indian fleet in numbers, tonnage and capability.

https://thediplomat.com/2016/12/the-bay-of-bengal-naval-arms-race/

The role and scope of activities of the navies in Pakistan/Bangladesh compared to India are vastly different however.

Speaking for Bangladesh Navy and Coast Guard, it can be said that they are primarily involved in EEZ/fisheries patrol, defensive naval roles/tactics and also very strong in SAR training activities.
 
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With recent fleet additions/expansions as well as planned/ongoing naval builds locally and abroad, Bangladesh Navy fleet is now slightly larger than Pakistan Navy and second only to Indian fleet in numbers, tonnage and capability.

How exactly? PN still have a larger & more capable fleet.
 
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How exactly? PN still have a larger & more capable fleet.

You have to go study the subject if you don't want to take my word for it. At this point in time this is how its stands.

Pakistan could have major expansion plans however frigate and sub-wise which they don't divulge ahead of time.
 
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You have to go study the subject if you don't want to take my word for it. At this point in time this is how its stands.

Pakistan could have major expansion plans however frigate and sub-wise which they don't divulge ahead of time.

Considering the frigates & submarines alone, here is how it stands, PN vs BN

9 vs 4 missile frigates
2 hashmat + 3 khalid class vs 2 Ming class (PN have the clear qualitative advantage)

And future acquisitions...

4 ada class vs 2 type 053H3 + unknown number of locally built frigates
8 aip submarines vs 2 submarines (new build?)
 
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Considering the frigates & submarines alone, here is how it stands, PN vs BN

9 vs 4 missile frigates
2 hashmat + 3 khalid class vs 2 Ming class (PN have the clear qualitative advantage)

And future acquisitions...

4 ada class vs 2 type 053H3 + unknown number of locally built frigates
8 aip submarines vs 2 submarines (new build?)
I agree , currently PN is stronger.

now , so far info of BN's fleet 2025.
8 Durjoy class (4 active, 4 upcoming)
8 C13B class (2 active, 2 underconstruction in China and rest 4 will be built in BD)
current 4 Guided missile Frigates
6 Indigenous Build Frigates .
4 Type053H3 Frigates (upcoming from next year)
4 subs at least (2 active)
4 New Minesweepers. ( upcoming)
2 Hydrographic Survey Ships (upcoming)
1 Training Ship (upcoming)
currently 4 aircrafts (2 AW109 and 2 Dornier MPA)
upcoming 4 AW159, 2 AW101, 2 Dornier MPA and 2 C-295MPA

**** Forgot to mention 2 castle class modified corvettes.
 
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I agree , currently PN is stronger.

now , so far info of BN's fleet 2025.
8 Durjoy class (4 active, 4 upcoming)
8 C13B class (2 active, 2 underconstruction in China and rest 4 will be built in BD)
current 4 Guided missile Frigates
6 Indigenous Build Frigates .
4 Type053H3 Frigates (upcoming from next year)
4 subs at least (2 active)
4 New Minesweepers. ( upcoming)
2 Hydrographic Survey Ships (upcoming)
1 Training Ship (upcoming)
currently 4 aircrafts (2 AW109 and 2 Dornier MPA)
upcoming 4 AW159, 2 AW101, 2 Dornier MPA and 2 C-295MPA

I would also think that 1 squadron of fighters will be assigned by then for BNAF. 12-16 SU-30SMEs will be ideal.
 
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Considering the frigates & submarines alone, here is how it stands, PN vs BN

There a lot of other components that make up a Navy besides frigates & subs, but no one is trying to compare PN vs. BN, it is a fools errand. The two navies face completely different scenarios, have different budgets and mission objectives. You can't compare apples to oranges. However Bangladesh' rate of expansion is (I'd argue) on a higher upswing than PN, at least as of now.

PN faces a perpetually hostile IN to the East and South, Bangladesh doesn't (so far as we know).

Hence PN's stressing local frigate & sub builds and seeking self-sufficiency in sub-capable nukes and other nukes. There is significant work ongoing for conventional AShM Missiles and Surface to Surface projectiles as well,

http://quwa.org/2016/12/14/pakistan-successfully-tests-babur-version-2-cruise-missile/

Those pioneering efforts in Pakistan have no parallel (yet) within Bangladesh, though I expect that to change (because of recent foreign policy impact). In fact so far Bangladesh Navy has enjoyed a relatively threat-free existence in the BoB neighborhood.

If these sound like nice alibis for Bangladesh Navy being sub-par, it shouldn't. Our Navy has ts share of laxity and ineptitude like any other Navy, including the Navy of our bigger neighbor. Rogue behavior from Myanmar Junta will change its priorities I'm sure.

There is a need for stronger frigate fleets & sub-based deterrents in the BoB patrol area for BN, in addition to other smaller vessel based patrol fleets closer to shore. Eventually all will be indigenous builds. Most of it already is, except Frigates and larger corvettes.

9 vs 4 missile frigates

Those numbers are deceptive. Out of the 9, Five Tariq-class destroyers are ex-Royal Navy Type 21 frigates (which although heavily refurbished) are long overdue for replacement. Other than the four F22P now operational, Pakistani Navy officials themselves have stated that replacements for the Tariq Class were in the offing, and we have heard either four more F22P builds at KSEW or ToT based MilGem Frigate builds.

For Bangladesh' situation, as @BDforever stated,
  1. Current 4 Guided missile Frigates (including BNS BB, which is heavily modernized)
  2. 6 Indigenous Build Frigates w/ToT (could be at a minimum like the C28A, see below, or as involved as the 054A variant, but definitely with VLS launchers and connected electronic warfare suites and fast data-bus support this time).
  3. 4 Type 053H3 Frigates (upcoming from next year) - this has been confirmed from reliable BN sources.
  4. So 8 relatively modern stopgap frigates within 2019 and then 6 more indigenous ones within 2025.

C28A class frigate (heavy corvette) 3000 tons
C28A-El-Fateh921.jpg


TYPE 054A “JIANGKAI II” class AIR DEFENSE frigate 4000 tons
2009-PLAN-Type054A-03.jpg



2 hashmat + 3 khalid class vs 2 Ming class (PN have the clear qualitative advantage)

The Ming class in Bangladesh is a stopgap measure for sub training purposes, you can't run sub operations with two decade old platforms...two more are either being built or will be transferred....probably Song class and with AIP. In any case, having four subs are more than sufficient deterrent for Bangladesh' enemies.

And future acquisitions...

4 ada class vs 2 type 053H3 + unknown number of locally built frigates

ADA Class is a large corvette (armed as one), 053H3 are Frigates. Plus local builds of frigates in Bangladesh are more or less certain (I don't want to go into all the myriad reasons why) which will be the equivalent of the ADA class. Judging from buzz in the military forums and personal confirmations from BN personnel all the Bangladeshi members here know.

8 aip submarines vs 2 submarines (new build?)

PN has started its Sub program way ahead of us (two decades) because of deterring IN sub capability and this is evident in their number of subs. We had no such need until now, but as I said, this will change.

You also forgot about Inshore and Mid-shore smaller patrol vessels which are as important (if not more) for BN and PN for EEZ and sea-lane patrols.

While PN is largely dependent on foreign builds for this (small numbers of Azmat/Jalalat/Jurrat classes are exceptions and a future OPV purchase), Bangladesh' fleet for this class of patrol vessel are far larger and almost entirely locally built. These are vessels from the Durjoy class (650 tons).
BNS_Durjoy.jpg


down to a half dozen other classes from 150 to 350 tons displacement, which will all be replaced with a unified design called the Padma class (350 tons). Five Padma Class vessels are already commissioned, but 25 will join the naval fleet within 2025, being built in batches of five.
Inside+of+BNS+Padmaof+BNS+Padma.jpg


And we haven't even started on the local Coast Guard patrol vessel builds, which include (again) a half-dozen different classes (see below),

FPB CGS Kutubdia Class 235 tons
2.JPG


IPV CGS Shobuj Bangla Class 300 tons
1.jpg


IPV CGS Ruposhi Bangla class 195 tons
11.JPG


with the 1300 ton Italian ex-Minerva class being the BCGS 'Leader class'.
bcg-receives-second-pair-of-leader-class-opvs-960x600.jpg


I agree , currently PN is stronger.
now , so far info of BN's fleet 2025.
8 Durjoy class (4 active, 4 upcoming)
8 C13B class (2 active, 2 underconstruction in China and rest 4 will be built in BD)
current 4 Guided missile Frigates
6 Indigenous Build Frigates .
4 Type 053H3 Frigates (upcoming from next year)
4 subs at least (2 active)
4 New Minesweepers. ( upcoming)
2 Hydrographic Survey Ships (upcoming)
1 Training Ship (upcoming)
currently 4 aircrafts (2 AW109 and 2 Dornier MPA)
upcoming 4 AW159, 2 AW101, 2 Dornier MPA and 2 C-295MPA

**** Forgot to mention 2 castle class modified corvettes.

Very comprehensive list Mr. Bilai lover (and largely accurate). :-)

So my last word on this is that BN and PN naval build capabilities are largely complementary. Both our countries should help each other to get ahead in naval builds.

@Penguin bhai for his valuable comments.
 
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There a lot of other components that make up a Navy besides frigates & subs, but no one is trying to compare PN vs. BN, it is a fool's errand. The two navies face completely different scenarios, have different budgets and mission objectives.
So my last word on this is that BN and PN naval build capabilities are largely complementary. Both our countries should help each other to get ahead in naval builds.
An Excellent analysis and a detailed self explanatory article. Thanks.
 
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There a lot of other components that make up a Navy besides frigates & subs, but no one is trying to compare PN vs. BN, it is a fools errand. The two navies face completely different scenarios, have different budgets and mission objectives. You can't compare apples to oranges. However Bangladesh' rate of expansion is (I'd argue) on a higher upswing than PN, at least as of now.

PN faces a perpetually hostile IN to the East and South, Bangladesh doesn't (so far as we know).

Hence PN's stressing local frigate & sub builds and seeking self-sufficiency in sub-capable nukes and other nukes. There is significant work ongoing for conventional AShM Missiles and Surface to Surface projectiles as well,

http://quwa.org/2016/12/14/pakistan-successfully-tests-babur-version-2-cruise-missile/

Those pioneering efforts in Pakistan have no parallel (yet) within Bangladesh, though I expect that to change (because of recent foreign policy impact). In fact so far Bangladesh Navy has enjoyed a relatively threat-free existence in the BoB neighborhood.

If these sound like nice alibis for Bangladesh Navy being sub-par, it shouldn't. Our Navy has ts share of laxity and ineptitude like any other Navy, including the Navy of our bigger neighbor. Rogue behavior from Myanmar Junta will change its priorities I'm sure.

There is a need for stronger frigate fleets & sub-based deterrents in the BoB patrol area for BN, in addition to other smaller vessel based patrol fleets closer to shore. Eventually all will be indigenous builds. Most of it already is, except Frigates and larger corvettes.



Those numbers are deceptive. Out of the 9, Five Tariq-class destroyers are ex-Royal Navy Type 21 frigates (which although heavily refurbished) are long overdue for replacement. Other than the four F22P now operational, Pakistani Navy officials themselves have stated that replacements for the Tariq Class were in the offing, and we have heard either four more F22P builds at KSEW or ToT based MilGem Frigate builds.

For Bangladesh' situation, as @BDforever stated,
  1. Current 4 Guided missile Frigates (including BNS BB, which is heavily modernized)
  2. 6 Indigenous Build Frigates w/ToT (could be at a minimum like the C28A, see below, or as involved as the 054A variant, but definitely with VLS launchers and connected electronic warfare suites and fast data-bus support this time).
  3. 4 Type 053H3 Frigates (upcoming from next year) - this has been confirmed from reliable BN sources.
  4. So 8 relatively modern stopgap frigates within 2019 and then 6 more indigenous ones within 2025.

C28A class frigate (heavy corvette) 3000 tons
C28A-El-Fateh921.jpg


TYPE 054A “JIANGKAI II” class AIR DEFENSE frigate 4000 tons
2009-PLAN-Type054A-03.jpg





The Ming class in Bangladesh is a stopgap measure for sub training purposes, you can't run sub operations with two decade old platforms...two more are either being built or will be transferred....probably Song class and with AIP. In any case, having four subs are more than sufficient deterrent for Bangladesh' enemies.



ADA Class is a large corvette (armed as one), 053H3 are Frigates. Plus local builds of frigates in Bangladesh are more or less certain (I don't want to go into all the myriad reasons why) which will be the equivalent of the ADA class. Judging from buzz in the military forums and personal confirmations from BN personnel all the Bangladeshi members here know.



PN has started its Sub program way ahead of us (two decades) because of deterring IN sub capability and this is evident in their number of subs. We had no such need until now, but as I said, this will change.

You also forgot about Inshore and Mid-shore smaller patrol vessels which are as important (if not more) for BN and PN for EEZ and sea-lane patrols.

While PN is largely dependent on foreign builds for this (small numbers of Azmat/Jalalat/Jurrat classes are exceptions and a future OPV purchase), Bangladesh' fleet for this class of patrol vessel are far larger and almost entirely locally built. These are vessels from the Durjoy class (650 tons).
BNS_Durjoy.jpg


down to a half dozen other classes from 150 to 350 tons displacement, which will all be replaced with a unified design called the Padma class (350 tons). Five Padma Class vessels are already commissioned, but 25 will join the naval fleet within 2025, being built in batches of five.
Inside+of+BNS+Padmaof+BNS+Padma.jpg


And we haven't even started on the local Coast Guard patrol vessel builds, which include (again) a half-dozen different classes (see below),

FPB CGS Kutubdia Class 235 tons
2.JPG


IPV CGS Shobuj Bangla Class 300 tons
1.jpg


IPV CGS Ruposhi Bangla class 195 tons
11.JPG


with the 1300 ton Italian ex-Minerva class being the BCGS 'Leader class'.
bcg-receives-second-pair-of-leader-class-opvs-960x600.jpg




Very comprehensive list Mr. Bilai lover (and largely accurate). :-)

So my last word on this is that BN and PN naval build capabilities are largely complementary. Both our countries should help each other to get ahead in naval builds.

@Penguin bhai for his valuable comments.
they're in kinda "seeing-is-believing" state of mind.... you can write a lot, but they won't get convinced.... and actually its not our job to convince them.... let them find it out when we actually receive our toys....

and we haven't even discussed helicopter-capable ships, OPVs, missile boats, etc..... there's too many things in the pipeline to make them feel shocked....
 
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Defence Technology of Bangladesh-DTB
বাংলাদেশ নৌবাহিনীর স্পেশাল কমান্ডো টিম Bangladesh Navy SWADS এর Diving and Salvage টিমের জন্য অত্যাধুনিক Surface Supplied Diving System (SSDS) এর দরপত্র ডেকেছে DGDP.

এগুলো purchased from the US/European made মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্ট্র এবং ইউরোপীয় দেশ থেকে কেনা হবে।
টেন্ডার লিংক
-http://www.dgdp.gov.bd/dgdp/AP_TEN/s_doc/1707.pdf
22789176_1509401975814897_2732506877131961884_n.jpg
 
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দেশের প্রথম যুদ্ধজাহাজ নির্মাণকারী শিপইয়ার্ড
Dockyard & Engineering Works Ltd. Narayanganj

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Defense Update Bangladesh
Published on Oct 25, 2017
Dockyard & Engineering Works Limited or DEW Ltd is a Bangladeshi shipbuilding industry operated by the Bangladesh Navy, located in Narayanganj.
This shipyard builds inshore patrol vessels, harbor patrol crafts, coast guard patrol crafts, landing craft utility, landing craft tanks, medium cargo vessels and high-speed boats.
DEW Ltd targeted to build 6,000 DWT ship within 2020.
This is the oldest shipyard in Bangladesh, established in 1922. Various types naval ships being built in DEW and in future some larger warships also will built as per the plan
 
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