Bangladesh Economy: News & Updates

[TopCat]

Don't want to rain on your parade, but the monthly domestic air traffic in Bangladesh is around 50,000 at most, 70% of which is Dhaka-Chittagong traffic. That's 0.6 million domestic passengers annually.

Compared to that for example Kolkata airport alone handles 0.8 million domestic passengers every month. Heck my hometown of Varanasi handles 150,000 domestic passengers a month

I hope you understand the size of BD. I am sure Kolkata does not even serve a fraction of what Dhaka serve for in-state flight.

 

[Roybot]

I hope you understand the size of BD. I am sure Kolkata does not even serve a fraction of what Dhaka serve for in-state flight.

Uh? Whats that suppose to mean?

Kolkata serves 0.8 Million domestic passengers monthly, the total domestic traffic of all Bangladeshi airport in a month is just 50000 .

As far as distance is concerned, Kolkata-Silliguri, Kolkata-Ranchi, Kolkata- Patna, Kolkata - Durgapur, Kolkata- Bhubhneswar are all around 1 hour by flight, similar to Dhaka-Chittagong.

Kolkata-Silliguri alone sees 1000 passenger every day, Kolkata- Bhubhneswar see 600 passenger every day. Just these two sectors equals the total number of Bangladeshi domestic air travellers

 

[TopCat]

Uh? Whats that suppose to mean?

Kolkata serves 0.8 Million domestic passengers monthly, the total domestic traffic of all Bangladeshi airport in a month is just 50000 .

As far as distance is concerned, Kolkata-Silliguri, Kolkata-Ranchi, Kolkata- Patna, Kolkata - Durgapur, Kolkata- Bhubhneswar are all around 1 hour by flight, similar to Dhaka-Chittagong.

Kolkata-Silliguri alone sees 1000 passenger every day, Kolkata- Bhubhneswar see 600 passenger every day. Just these two sectors equals the total number of Bangladeshi domestic air travellers

Your source? None of BD domestic flight takes more than 30 mins

 

[Species]

Uh? Whats that suppose to mean?

Kolkata serves 0.8 Million domestic passengers monthly, the total domestic traffic of all Bangladeshi airport in a month is just 50000 .

As far as distance is concerned, Kolkata-Silliguri, Kolkata-Ranchi, Kolkata- Patna, Kolkata - Durgapur, Kolkata- Bhubhneswar are all around 1 hour by flight, similar to Dhaka-Chittagong.

Kolkata-Silliguri alone sees 1000 passenger every day, Kolkata- Bhubhneswar see 600 passenger every day. Just these two sectors equals the total number of Bangladeshi domestic air travellers

He meant flights within West Bengal. Bangladesh has at least 9 airports with scheduled passenger flights while West Bengal has only two. I also think the monthly air traffic rate figure that you quoted is not really accurate, 50,000 is too less for 9 airports.

 

[TopCat]

He meant flights within West Bengal. Bangladesh has at least 9 airports with scheduled passenger flights while West Bengal has only two. I also think the monthly air traffic rate figure that you quoted is not really accurate, 50,000 is too less for 9 airports.

Thats the figure Biman carries only for Dhaka-Chittagong route.
We have 4 more airlines.

 

[Species]

Thats the figure Biman carries only for Dhaka-Chittagong route.
We have 4 more airlines.

Yes, I also thought the same, he's quoting the figures of Biman only. Biman actually has a poor presence in the domestic passenger service, in fact they usually keep their domestic flights suspended during the Hajj season.

I think few more private airlines are under pipeline apart from these 4.

 

[South-Striker]

Interesting.

How to create a Thread?

 

[Roybot]

He meant flights within West Bengal. Bangladesh has at least 9 airports with scheduled passenger flights while West Bengal has only two. I also think the monthly air traffic rate figure that you quoted is not really accurate, 50,000 is too less for 9 airports.

Thats the figure Biman carries only for Dhaka-Chittagong route.
We have 4 more airlines.

Nope that's the total figure, of all the airlines and all the airports there is in Bangladesh. A total of 50000 per month.

At present, 40,000-50,000 passengers fly on the domestic routes a month, with Dhaka-Chittagong accounting for 70 percent. In 2013, some 648,019 people travelled nationally by air, up 10 percent year-on-year, according to data from Civil Aviation Authority, Bangladesh (CAAB).

http://www.thedailystar.net/biman-may-resume-domestic-flights-in-january-49840

 

[Species]

Nope that's the total figure, of all the airlines and all the airports there is in Bangladesh. A total of 50000 per month.



http://www.thedailystar.net/biman-may-resume-domestic-flights-in-january-49840

The figure is two year old so the current figure might be around 60-65,000. Even if we take that figure, compare it with flights solely within an Indian state, say West Bengal (excluding inter-state flights), you'll find the figure for Bangladesh to be quite higher.

 

[Roybot]

The figure is two year old so the current figure might be around 60-65,000. Even if we take that figure, compare it with flights solely within an Indian state, say West Bengal (excluding inter-state flights), you'll find the figure for Bangladesh to be quite higher.

Couple of things, Bangladesh is about 75% bigger than West Bengal both in size and population. Secondly, as I said Kolkata airport handles 800,000 domestic passenger every month! Out of that Kolkata- Siliguri (North Bengal) sector alone handles around 35000 passengers per month. If you consider other regional sectors, such as Kolkata- Patna, Kolkata- Ranchi, Kolkata- Bhubneswar (all are less than 1 hour away), the number swells up to well over 100,000 a month.

Within the state itself, given the geography of West Bengal, you can reach major cities of West Bengal by rail or road in 2-3 hours.

Kolkata - Bardhaman - 100 Km - 2 Hours by rail/road
Kolkata- Durgapur -170 Km- 2 Hours by rail--3 hours by road
Kolkata- Asansol- 200 KM- 2.5 Hours by rail - 4 hours by road
Kolkata-Kharagpur - 130 Km- 2.5 Houts by rail- 3 Hours by road

So there is no such need for air travel within the state, except for North Bengal which is about 8-9 hours by rail. Durgapur got a new airport recently, and is already seeing about 3000 passengers a month.

Anyways, my intention wasn't to get into a dick measuring contest. But to say that majority of middle class Bangladeshi travel by air, domestically, is a huge exaggeration. Given the volume of domestic air traffic within Bangladesh is just 50000 a month, which would be 60000 now if we were to take a healthy growth rate of 10% every year. For a country with 160 million people, 50-60000 people travelling by air every month, that's 2000 people a day, is not majority of the middle class. Either that or the number of middle class people in Bangladesh is really really low.

 

[Species]

Couple of things, Bangladesh is about 75% bigger than West Bengal both in size and population. Secondly, as I said Kolkata airport handles 800,000 domestic passenger every month! Out of that Kolkata- Siliguri (North Bengal) sector alone handles around 35000 passengers per month. If you consider other regional sectors, such as Kolkata- Patna, Kolkata- Ranchi, Kolkata- Bhubneswar (all are less than 1 hour away), the number swells up to well over 100,000 a month.

Within the state itself, given the geography of West Bengal, you can reach major cities of West Bengal by rail or road in 2-3 hours.

Kolkata - Bardhaman - 100 Km - 2 Hours by rail/road
Kolkata- Durgapur -170 Km- 2 Hours by rail--3 hours by road
Kolkata- Asansol- 200 KM- 2.5 Hours by rail - 4 hours by road
Kolkata-Kharagpur - 130 Km- 2.5 Houts by rail- 3 Hours by road

So there is no such need for air travel within the state, except for North Bengal which is about 8-9 hours by rail. Durgapur got a new airport recently, and is already seeing about 3000 passengers a month.

Anyways, my intention wasn't to get into a dick measuring contest. But to say that majority of middle class Bangladeshi travel by air, domestically, is a huge exaggeration. Given the volume of domestic air traffic within Bangladesh is just 50000 a month, which would be 60000 now if we were to take a healthy growth rate of 10% every year. For a country with 160 million people, 50-60000 people travelling by air every month, that's 2000 people a day, is not majority of the middle class. Either that or the number of middle class people in Bangladesh is really really low.

The 800,000 figure include flight to and from cities outside of West Bengal. As I said you need to exclude these flights because Kolkata receives huge number of flights from major cities of India like Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore, Chennai and others which are far from West Bengal. Heck a large part of the passengers are non-West Bengalis.

Distance among the major cities in Bangladesh is more or less the same that you posted for West Bengal, between Dhaka and Chittagong it's just about 200 kms. Yet if you compare the air traffic within the border of West Bengal and that of Bangladesh, the latter has about twice bigger traffic. This is why we are saying that comparatively, air travel among Bangladeshi middle class is higher than Indians.

 

[Roybot]

The 800,000 figure include flight to and from cities outside of West Bengal. As I said you need to exclude these flights because Kolkata receives huge number of flights from major cities of India like Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore, Chennai and others which are far from West Bengal. Heck a large part of the passengers are non-West Bengalis.

Distance among the major cities in Bangladesh is more or less the same that you posted for West Bengal, between Dhaka and Chittagong it's just about 200 kms. Yet if you compare the air traffic within the border of West Bengal and that of Bangladesh, the latter has about twice bigger traffic. This is why we are saying that comparatively, air travel among Bangladeshi middle class is higher than Indians.

How on earth did u reach to that conclusion You compare yourself to just West Bengal and then make a conclusion that air travel is more common with Bangladeshi middle class than it is with Indians. West Bengal is just one state of India, and people from West Bengal, Bengalis or not, middle class or not can travel to any part of India and it will still be considered domestic traffic.

The reason Bangladesh sees so many short haul flights, is because its a tiny riverine country, with utterly poor surface transport infrastructure.

Fact of the matter if Bangladesh total domestic air traffic is 60000 per month, for West Bengal its 900,000 per month ( 800,000 Kolkata and 100,000 Siliguri), and for all of India its 15 Million per month. If you still think that more Bangladeshi middle class travel by air than Indians then I have nothing more to add here.

 

[Species]

How on earth did u reach to that conclusion You compare yourself to just West Bengal and then make a conclusion that air travel is more common with Bangladeshi middle class than it is with Indians. West Bengal is just one state of India, and people from West Bengal, Bengalis or not, middle class or not can travel to any part of India and it will still be considered domestic traffic.

The reason Bangladesh sees so many short haul flights, is because its a tiny riverine country, with utterly poor surface transport infrastructure.

Fact of the matter if Bangladesh total domestic air traffic is 60000 per month, for West Bengal its 900,000 per month ( 800,000 Kolkata and 100,000 Siliguri), and for all of India its 15 Million per month. If you still think that more Bangladeshi middle class travel by air than Indians then I have nothing more to add here.

I don't know whether you have a comprehension problem or just trolling. The key point that I am arguing here is that when you talk you about domestic flights of Bangladesh it only includes flights covering distance within some 150,000 sq kms, serving 150 million people but when you talk you about domestic flights of West Bengal it includes flights covering distance within 3.3 million sq kms, serving 1.5 billion people. The comparison between these 'domestic' flights of Bangladesh and West Bengal is just like apple vs oranges, to get a proper picture you need to compare the domestic flights of Bangladesh with the flights covering distance only within West Bengal, here Bangladesh's figure is twice as large as West Bengal.

I agree we cannot come to a conclusion just by comparing West Bengal. You may compare other states as well with flights covering similar distance to that of Bangladesh, still Bangladesh's figure will be higher.

We do have an infrastructural deficit, but still you can reach any place from Dhaka (as the national transport hub) through road or rail, that cannot be said about India.

 

[Roybot]

I don't know whether you have a comprehension problem or just trolling. The key point that I am arguing here is that when you talk you about domestic flights of Bangladesh it only includes flights covering distance within some 150,000 sq kms, serving 150 million people but when you talk you about domestic flights of West Bengal it includes flights covering distance within 3.3 million sq kms, serving 1.5 billion people. The comparison between these 'domestic' flights of Bangladesh and West Bengal is just like apple vs oranges, to get a proper picture you need to compare the domestic flights of Bangladesh with the flights covering distance only within West Bengal, here Bangladesh's figure is twice as large as West Bengal.

I agree we cannot come to a conclusion just by comparing West Bengal. You may compare other states as well with flights covering similar distance to that of Bangladesh, still Bangladesh's figure will be higher.

We do have an infrastructural deficit, but still you can reach any place from Dhaka (as the national transport hub) through road or rail, that cannot be said about India.

India is about 22 bigger than Bangladesh
India's population is about 8 times more than of Bangladesh
Annual Domestic air traffic in India(81 million) is120 times more than that of Bangladesh (0.7 Million)

I hope this helps.

 

[Species]

India is about 22 bigger than Bangladesh
India's population is about 8 times more than of Bangladesh
Annual Domestic air traffic in India(81 million) is120 times more than that of Bangladesh (0.7 Million)

I hope this helps.

No, it didn't help, forget it.