Bangladesh Ansar &VDP force: The largest single force in the world

[Nilgiri]

Rajasthani

you guys kicked some serious *** when the going got tough Respect.

 

[kobiraaz]

Alivardi Khan Proposed peace with Raghuji in 1751 ceding in perpetuity Katak up to the river Suvarnarekha, and agreeing to pay Rs. 12 lacs of tribute annually in lieu of the Chauth of Bengal and Bihar


Rajasthani

And what about Ahmad Shah Baba? Showed them their place.

Anyway Bengal lost to British Company as a consequence of Maratha Infestation. Alivardi spent all his time as a nawab chasing Marathas..and couldn't check British Interest

As far as I remember The son of Baji rao Balaji even offered his assistance to Lord Clive against Siraj Ud daula

How come traitor Bandits become national hero?

 

[John Reese]

And what about Ahmad Shah Baba? Showed them their place.

Anyway Bengal lost to British Comapny as a consequence of Maratha Infestation. Alivardi spent all his time as a nawab chasing Marathas..and.couldn't check British Interest

As far as I remember The son of Baji rao even offered his assistance to Lord Clive against Siraj Ud daula

How come traitor Bandits become national hero?

ohh Now Bengal boosting Fail You Opted For Muslim glory
Even after Loss at panipat Marathas Regain Delhi And its lost territories

• After the 1761 Battle of Panipat, Malhar Rao Holkar attacked the Rajputs and defeated them at the battle of Mangrol. This largely restored Maratha power in Rajasthan.
• Under the leadership of Mahadji Shinde, the ruler of the state of Gwalior in central India, the Marathas defeated the Jats, the Rohilla Afghans and took Delhi which remained under Maratha control for the next three decades.[ His forces conquered modern day Haryana Shinde was instrumental in resurrecting Maratha power after the débâcle of the Third Battle of Panipat, and in this he was assisted by Benoît de Boigne.
• In 1767 Madhavrao I crossed the Krishna River and defeated Hyder Ali in the battles of Sira and Madgiri. He also rescued the last queen of the Keladi Nayaka Kingdom, who had been kept in confinement by Hyder Ali in the fort of Madgiri.
• In early 1771, ten years after the collapse of Maratha authority over North India following the Third Battle of Panipat, Mahadji recaptured Delhi and installed Shah Alam II as a puppet ruler on the Mughal throne. receiving in return the title of deputy Vakil-ul-Mutlak or vice-regent of the Empire and that of Vakil-ul-Mutlak being at his request conferred on the Peshwa. The Mughals also gave him the title of Amir-ul-Amara (head of the amirs).(Mighty Mughal are now puppets)

Maratha king of Gwalior at his palace.

• After taking control of Delhi, the Marathas sent a large army in 1772 to "punish" Afghan Rohillas for their involvement in Panipat. Their army devastated Rohilkhand by looting and plundering, as well as taking members of the royal family as captives.
• After the growth in power of feudal lords like Malwa sardars, landlords of Bundelkhand and Rajput kingdoms of Rajasthan, they refused to pay tribute to Mahadji. So he sent his army conquer the states such as Bhopal, Datiya, Chanderi, Narwar, Salbai and Gohad. However, he launched an unsuccessful expedition against the Raja of Jaipur, but withdrew after the inconclusive Battle of Lalsot in 1787.
• The Battle of Gajendragad was fought between the Marathas under the command of Tukojirao Holkar (the adopted son of Malharrao Holkar) and Tipu Sultan from March 1786 to March 1787 in which Tipu Sultan was defeated by the Marathas. By the victory in this battle, the border of the Maratha territory extended till Tungabhadra river.(Ohh Mighty Tipu Sword of Allah Defeated)
• The strong fort of Gwalior was then in the hands of Chhatar Singh, the Jat ruler of Gohad. In 1783, Mahadji besieged the fort of Gwalior and conquered it. He delegated the administration of Gwalior to Khanderao Hari Bhalerao. After celebrating the conquest of Gwalior, Mahadji Shinde turned his attention to Delhi again.
• In 1788 Mahadji's armies defeated Ismail Beg, a Mughal noble who resisted the Marathas.The Rohilla chief Ghulam Kadir, Ismail Beg's ally, took over Delhi, capital of the Mughal dynasty, and deposed and blinded the king Shah Alam II, placing a puppet on the Delhi throne. Mahadji intervened and killed him, taking possession of Delhi on 2 October, restoringShah Alam II to the throne and acting as his protector.
• Jaipur and Jodhpur, the two most powerful Rajput sates, were still out of direct Maratha domination. So, Mahadji sent his general Benoît de Boigne to crush the forces of Jaipur and Jodhpur at the Battle of Patan.Marwar was also captured on 10 September 1790.
• Another achievement of the Marathas was their victories over the Nizam of Hyderabad's armies including in the Battle of Kharda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire

British Captured all Subcontinent I Admired their warcraft and Strategy but it was technology Which made them superior that time Marathas has no True king

 

[TopCat]

ohh Now Bengal boosting Fail You Opted For Muslim glory
Even after Loss at panipat Marathas Regain Delhi And its lost territories

• After the 1761 Battle of Panipat, Malhar Rao Holkar attacked the Rajputs and defeated them at the battle of Mangrol. This largely restored Maratha power in Rajasthan.
• Under the leadership of Mahadji Shinde, the ruler of the state of Gwalior in central India, the Marathas defeated the Jats, the Rohilla Afghans and took Delhi which remained under Maratha control for the next three decades.[ His forces conquered modern day Haryana Shinde was instrumental in resurrecting Maratha power after the débâcle of the Third Battle of Panipat, and in this he was assisted by Benoît de Boigne.
• In 1767 Madhavrao I crossed the Krishna River and defeated Hyder Ali in the battles of Sira and Madgiri. He also rescued the last queen of the Keladi Nayaka Kingdom, who had been kept in confinement by Hyder Ali in the fort of Madgiri.
• In early 1771, ten years after the collapse of Maratha authority over North India following the Third Battle of Panipat, Mahadji recaptured Delhi and installed Shah Alam II as a puppet ruler on the Mughal throne. receiving in return the title of deputy Vakil-ul-Mutlak or vice-regent of the Empire and that of Vakil-ul-Mutlak being at his request conferred on the Peshwa. The Mughals also gave him the title of Amir-ul-Amara (head of the amirs).(Mighty Mughal are now puppets)

Maratha king of Gwalior at his palace.

• After taking control of Delhi, the Marathas sent a large army in 1772 to "punish" Afghan Rohillas for their involvement in Panipat. Their army devastated Rohilkhand by looting and plundering, as well as taking members of the royal family as captives.
• After the growth in power of feudal lords like Malwa sardars, landlords of Bundelkhand and Rajput kingdoms of Rajasthan, they refused to pay tribute to Mahadji. So he sent his army conquer the states such as Bhopal, Datiya, Chanderi, Narwar, Salbai and Gohad. However, he launched an unsuccessful expedition against the Raja of Jaipur, but withdrew after the inconclusive Battle of Lalsot in 1787.
• The Battle of Gajendragad was fought between the Marathas under the command of Tukojirao Holkar (the adopted son of Malharrao Holkar) and Tipu Sultan from March 1786 to March 1787 in which Tipu Sultan was defeated by the Marathas. By the victory in this battle, the border of the Maratha territory extended till Tungabhadra river.(Ohh Mighty Tipu Sword of Allah Defeated)
• The strong fort of Gwalior was then in the hands of Chhatar Singh, the Jat ruler of Gohad. In 1783, Mahadji besieged the fort of Gwalior and conquered it. He delegated the administration of Gwalior to Khanderao Hari Bhalerao. After celebrating the conquest of Gwalior, Mahadji Shinde turned his attention to Delhi again.
• In 1788 Mahadji's armies defeated Ismail Beg, a Mughal noble who resisted the Marathas.The Rohilla chief Ghulam Kadir, Ismail Beg's ally, took over Delhi, capital of the Mughal dynasty, and deposed and blinded the king Shah Alam II, placing a puppet on the Delhi throne. Mahadji intervened and killed him, taking possession of Delhi on 2 October, restoringShah Alam II to the throne and acting as his protector.
• Jaipur and Jodhpur, the two most powerful Rajput sates, were still out of direct Maratha domination. So, Mahadji sent his general Benoît de Boigne to crush the forces of Jaipur and Jodhpur at the Battle of Patan.Marwar was also captured on 10 September 1790.
• Another achievement of the Marathas was their victories over the Nizam of Hyderabad's armies including in the Battle of Kharda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire

British Captured all Subcontinent I Admired their warcraft and Strategy but it was technology Which made them superior that time Marathas has no True king

You were taught enough lesson by Aurangzeb, didnt he? Bargis were nothing more than nuisance in Bengal. Bengal was affluent and most of the Maratha terriotory were under famine most of the years. So there were no shortage of outlawed warrior in their disposal.

Ask any of your west bengali loosers to translate this rhyme for you

 

[bluesky]

The great protein rich Bangladesh number of total olympic medals = 0.

Our bravery in fighting is not 'o', it is '100'. In the eastern India our forefathers played the main role in the old days' political game. After even a long 10 years (1741 to 1751) of sending looteras and dakuus, Raghuji of Maratha could not make a dent to the integrity and authority of the Bengal proper. His Prime Minister Vasker Pundit and 21 of his generals were killed by the troops of Mir Zafar Ali Khan, a then general under Nawab Ali Vardy Khan.

Orissa became a problem only because its Governor Mir Habib lured Vaskar Pundit to Bengal to take revenge of the defeat and killing of Nawab Sarfaraz Khan, his brother-in-law, by Alivardy, a then deputy in Bihar under Sarfaraz. Mir Habib became the main pillar of the lootera Bargis in Bengal.

Finally, in a truce organized by Mir Habib himself the Nawab agreed in 1952 to the following:
1) Orissa will remain a part of Bengal, but Mir Habib will remain its Governor (Mir Habib had already changed his alliance from the Lootera Bargi to Alivardy) under Alivardy.
2) But, Ali vardy agreed to pay the Marathas 12 lakh Rupee from the coffer of Orissa.
3) Main Bengal remained away from Maratha thrust.

However, these conflicts of various dimensions in both Bengal and other parts of India made this part of the world very weak politically with all its fabrics broken in hundreds. This is why finally, the British could make its first inroad in 1757 June 23. People/historians in Bengal usually think this Plassey was the last battle in Bengal. It was not so. There were two other battles against the British by Nawab Mir Kasem Ali Khan, who replaced Mir Zafar for a few years.

It was the Battle of Buxer in 1764 that finally changed the political landscape of Bengal and Hindustan. A combined troops of Mir Kasem, Nawab Sujauddowlah of Ayudh and Emperor Shah Alam of Delhi initially won, but were finally defeated when Mir Zafar quickly assembled and detached a 10,000 strong horse-mounted troops to help the British after the latter again recognized him as the Nawab.

History does not say the Lootera Marathas have played any role against the British. Maratha lost heavily in the Battle of Panipath on 14 January 1761. So, only in 1761 Maratha almost alllost their political strength. This group however were always helping afterwards the British to fight against Tipu Sultan of Mysore.

Some stupid from India has come out with a fictitious map showing all lands in the north including Delhi were Maratha land, while in reality Mughals still remained the Sovereign until 1857.

 

[Nilgiri]

Our bravery in fighting is not 'o', it is '100'. In the eastern India our forefathers played the main role in the old days' political game. After even a long 10 years (1741 to 1751) of sending looteras and dakuus, Raghuji of Maratha could not make a dent to the integrity and authority of the Bengal proper. His Prime Minister Vasker Pundit and 21 of his generals were killed by the troops of Mir Zafar Ali Khan, a then general under Nawab Ali Vardy Khan.

Orissa became a problem only because its Governor Mir Habib lured Vaskar Pundit to Bengal to take revenge of the defeat and killing of Nawab Sarfaraz Khan, his brother-in-law, by Alivardy, a then deputy in Bihar under Sarfaraz. Mir Habib became the main pillar of the lootera Bargis in Bengal.

Finally, in a truce organized by Mir Habib himself the Nawab agreed in 1952 to the following:
1) Orissa will remain a part of Bengal, but Mir Habib will remain its Governor (Mir Habib had already changed his alliance from the Lootera Bargi to Alivardy) under Alivardy.
2) But, Ali vardy agreed to pay the Marathas 12 lakh Rupee from the coffer of Orissa.
3) Main Bengal remained away from Maratha thrust.

However, these conflicts of various dimensions in both Bengal and other parts of India made this part of the world very weak politically with all its fabrics broken in hundreds. This is why finally, the British could make its first inroad in 1757 June 23. People/historians in Bengal usually think this Plassey was the last battle in Bengal. It was not so. There were two other battles against the British by Nawab Mir Kasem Ali Khan, who replaced Mir Zafar for a few years.

It was the Battle of Buxer in 1764 that finally changed the political landscape of Bengal and Hindustan. A combined troops of Mir Kasem, Nawab Sujauddowlah of Ayudh and Emperor Shah Alam of Delhi initially won, but were finally defeated when Mir Zafar quickly assembled and detached a 10,000 strong horse-mounted troops to help the British after the latter again recognized him as the Nawab.

History does not say the Lootera Marathas have played any role against the British. Maratha lost heavily in the Battle of Panipath on 14 January 1761. So, only in 1761 Maratha almost alllost their political strength. This group however were always helping afterwards the British to fight against Tipu Sultan of Mysore.

Some stupid from India has come out with a fictitious map showing all lands in the north including Delhi were Maratha land, while in reality Mughals still remained the Sovereign until 1857.

You were not talking about bravery. You brought in protein like an idiot and said its got something to do with it without even stopping to check the numbers.

By your dumb logic its is actually Indians that are 15% more brave than Bangladeshis because we consume 15% more protein per person than you.

You can debate all this maratha vs bengali stuff with john reese. I have no interest in it.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

You initiate it (trolling) we will end it with some pretty stark realities.

Just like what would happen in the conflict several Bangladeshis are proposing/dreaming about with this "ansar" force which sounds to me more like a poor man's red guard in its actual operational capability (i.e it will be crushed pretty badly by the BSF alone).

Lol, very good. Please continue...

 

[Nilgiri]

Lol, very good. Please continue...

Well read the whole thread mr "genius"

 

[John Reese]

You were taught enough lesson by Aurangzeb, didnt he? Bargis were nothing more than nuisance in Bengal. Bengal was affluent and most of the Maratha terriotory were under famine most of the years. So there were no shortage of outlawed warrior in their disposal.

Ask any of your west bengali loosers to translate this rhyme for you

Dont Give BS give me factual evidence recorded history
Aurangzeb

Do you Know who is this guy he is a Nightmare for Aurangzeb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivaji

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Well read the whole thread mr "genius"

Lol, I visit this forum for defence related discussion. Not for bla bla bla politics or trolling. So, No...

 

[Nilgiri]

Lol, I visit this forum for defence related discussion. Not for bla bla bla politics or trolling. So, No...

You are the one that said to continue....and so we did Now its evolved into some weird stuff about marathas and bengalis having a go at each other in history.

 

[John Reese]

Now to burst bubble of Bangladeshi members

@Nilgiri These Ansar And Home guards are not Even regularly trained Due Know how they are raised The Ansar were formed out of the remnants of the Indian Home Guard who were from East Bengal, which had become a part of Pakistan after the partition of India in 1947.

Real The total strength of the Regular Ansar is 20,000, Embodied Ansars 120,000
Un-embodied Ansars strength is close to 5,700,000 Which Are only asked When need arises
By that Logic India Can Raise Force of Crores of Irregular Militia Un-embodied
Soldiers During War Times
237,042,868 Males And 243,276,310 Females Fit for Military Service

india Varius Such Non conventional regular Force

The total strength of Home Guards in the country is 5,73,793 against which the raised strength is 405043 Home Guards. The organisation is spread over in all States and Union Territories except in Arunachal Pradesh and Kerala.

The report mentions that while the sanctioned strength of NCC is 15 lakh cadets, the actual number on rolls of NCC stood at 11,73,029 last year while the comparative figure for this year was 11,31,083 cadets.and these are regular cadets

 

[kobiraaz]

Dont Give BS give me factual evidence recorded history
Aurangzeb

Do you Know who is this guy he is a Nightmare for Aurangzeb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivaji

And World knows Aurangzeb ... Who is Shivaji by the way??

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

You are the one that said to continue....and so we did Now its evolved into some weird stuff about marathas and bengalis having a go at each other in history.

Lol, tag me when you guys find the superior one... Thanks in advance...

 

[Nilgiri]

And World knows Aurangzeb ... Who is Shivaji by the way??

World really doesn't know anything about Aurangzeb or Mughals....past Taj Mahal if you are lucky.

I will let John Reese explain Shivaji to you.

Lol, tag me when you guys find the superior one... Thanks in advance...

I think its an eternal draw....its the internet after all.