This is what happens when people can't read articles properly and come here with a heavy baggage of bias. Here... read this excerpt from a Bangladeshi article -
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...the NTPC will provide technical support to BPDB and training to officials here to generate electricity from newly proposeAnalysis of Clean Coal
d Khulna coal-based power plants."
The New Nation - Internet Edition
Besides, the plants are being built in Bangladesh. No where did I find any report indicating that the plants will be
owned in its entirety by India. It just says that plants will be
handled by India since Bangladesh lacks expertise and India will provide training to Bangladesh in this regard. That very well suggests that the management will also be under Bangladesh once it gets the expertise.
OK... I won't use words like "idiotic".
But you using statements such as "We just do not want Indian govt involvement in any of our sectors" leaves me with no other option.
Do you object to the Government of India's forces involvement in 1971 liberation war? If yes... then I know where your loyalties lie.
Dude... I told you to give sources before you start arguing with me on this.
Now, its my turn -
300 MW coal fired plant for $1.1 billion -
Power plant cost to top $1 billion - JSOnline
800-900 MW coal fired plant for $1.35 billion -
EnBW, Swiss BKW detail German coal power plant plan | Reuters
1320 MW coal plant for $2.25 billion -
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091123-717083.html
2000MW coal plant for $4.8 billion (3.5 billion euro) -
FACTBOX - Major power projects in the Balkans - Forbes.com
4000MW coal plant complex for $7.3 billion (in your much adored China) -
Massive power plant set for Tangshan
FYI, a developing country like Vietnam too spends $1.2 million to build any MW of coal-fired generation capacity -
Vietnam Vinacomin plans two major coal power plants - Forbes.com
Now, tell me about you and your "cost estimation" knowledge. Perhaps you are living in 2005 when steel prices were much cheaper.
Oh yes! I'm a good joker. Because I speak out of my @$$ without giving any sources and constantly make non-credible statements.
Thank you, come again!
Good to know that you are willing to challenge me with your shallow knowledge of (power) plant construction. You said about the rise of steel price for this increase. A very bad lie, isn't it?
I think you have intentionally posted some links which say of the price to build power plants that are fitted with very very COSTLY pollution-free machineries. Now, read the link below to know that even to build only a 275 mw pollution-free power plant may also cost $1.8 billion. .
The article I am sending and those you have posted say of only CLEAN ENERGY coal-fired power plants, but, India SURELY does not have that kind of technology. Therefore, it is safe to say that in the proposed plant in BD it will build a conventional coal-fired power station that will exhaust thousands of tons of carbon related pollution. Why do you think it should be that expensive?
The $0.8 million/megawatt figure that I have cited earlier is true even if it is built by a western country. For a poor country like India or BD, the labour costs are very low. Therefore, the per unit cost should be less than $0.8 million. So, a 1300 mw plant should cost less than $1 billion.
Moreover, considering the mindset of bigot Indians, it is also possible that they will dismantle an old power station, overhaul the machineries and erect these in BD. In that case, the cost may go down further.
Please read the article below to uplift your knowledge about power plants. Note that the pollution free technology is still to be perfected.
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FutureGen Goes Up in Smoke... and Clean Coal Technologies Fail Again
By Jeff Siegel
Tuesday, February 5th, 2008
So it looks like the President's centerpiece for his strategy for Clean Coal technologies, FutureGen, has been shelved. The reason?
The project costs for the planned 275MW coal-fired plant had risen to $1.8 billion. And folks, that's just to build it. That doesn't even include the cost of the very resource it depends on to operate--coal.
If they were truly seeking cleaner energy, they could've just as easily pulled off a concentrating solar farm, delivering the same 275MW for roughly the same price.
Of course, that's just construction.
Once a concentrating solar power plant is built, the resource--the sun's rays--is inexhaustible, and free. Coal?
Well, figuring conservatively, we probably have about 30 years of that high-energy content coal left. (Learn more about peak coal.) And the FutureGen Alliance estimated the plant would use up to 1 million tons per year.
At a cost of $34.26 per ton (per the EIA's 2006 figures), you're looking at $34.26 million a year, or about $685 million over the course of 20 years (the average life most power plants, both renewable and non-renewable are given as a base measurement), assuming no price increase over the next two decades...which is not a safe assumption to make.
So now we're looking at a choice between $1.8 billion for the concentrating solar project, or almost $2.5 billion for the FutureGen project. But wait... there's more!
Cost: Clean Coal's Dirty Secret
The cost to transport heat from the sun is roughly $0.00 per year. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself). The cost to transport coal?
Since rail carries the majority of coal tonnage in the U.S., we'll look at the costs attributed to rail transport. According to the EIA, the average cost in 2005 was $11.68 per ton.
Multiply that by 1 million, and you're looking at about $11.68 million a year, or about $233.6 million over the course of 20 years.
This brings our total to roughly $2.719 billion for the "clean coal" plant. The price for the "always clean, never been dirty" 275MW concentrating solar plant is still about $1.8 billion-or about $919 million cheaper.
For that extra $919 million, you can build another 256MW concentrating solar power plant. Not a bad deal.
Clean Coal... Not So Clean After All
Consider the fact that even with a coal plant that doesn't emit CO2, such as the FutureGen Alliance claimed its plant would do, you still have the issues of mercury, sulfur dioxide emissions, and nitrogen oxide emissions.
Granted, the FutureGen Alliance claimed results that would lower emissions of mercury, sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxide. But by how much? Well, that's a piece of information we couldn't seem to get a straight answer on.
Either way, it's more than solar, wind or geothermal.
Now I'm not spouting off about this just because I'm unwilling to accept any type of power generation that pollutes as much as coal (complacency cannot be accepted, nor should it be tolerated with so much clean energy technology at our fingertips), but rather to draw your attention to an issue that will continue to be a major thorn in the side of those that champion coal-fired power generation.
Perhaps you remember last year when the American Electric Power company agreed to a $4.6 billion settlement over pollution controls. They now have to shell out a wad of cash to make improvements that will reduce--not eliminate--the plant's sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxide emissions.
Just one more thing to consider when analyzing the future growth prospects of both proven renewable energy technologies and unproven non-renewable technologies.
Coal ain't clean folks...even if they put the two words together on a press release.
And until they can prove it, just like the solar, wind and geothermal industries have proven their technologies to be effective and competitive on a level playing field, our skepticism will remain strong. As it should be when it comes to any investment.
And as a side note, Citigroup, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanley all announced on Monday they will now set environmental standards that factor in risks posed by carbon-emissions when lending to power companies that seek to build coal-fire power plants.
And another nail is hammered in. Invest appropriately.
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