Bangladesh Air Force

[Avicenna]

Meh, there is many hidden additional cost factor when operating Grippen hence there is less countries interested on Grippen compared with F 16 or even Flanker.

The same IAF expert who ditch Grippen E offer from SAAB and instead chose Rafale and adding more Su 30 MKI in recent procurement program, sure that says alot about Grippen Mighty in paper sheet and mock training against earlier model of J 11 (in which rip off of Flanker). Not to say Indonesia choice of Flanker E / Su 35 over Grippen E because they are short legged and must carry additional fuel tanks. Beside Brazil, there is not much country picking Grippen E seriously (if not US spy cases Brazil surely will deal for F/A 18).

Quite simply, if its good enough for Sweden, its good enough for Bangladesh.

 

[bluesky]

We need to buy one of our major line of fighter from western nations. I prefer UK.
As long as you act like a meek and weak, you will be treated like meek and weak.

Remind you, however a cat roars, it is not treated as a tiger. BD is nothing in the world politics, however boldly we try to project ourselves. Buy UK is ok, though!! But, I do not expect any political alignment out of this purchase.

New generation British guys are a breed so different from the time of Robert Clive. This generation regret many other actions taken by their old-time national heroes in different parts of the globe. This may the reason why Britain is a little sympathetic to BD. I think, it will work in our favor in times of an imposed war even if we do not buy their jets. They know, we are very poor and weak.

 

[Bilal9]

I wanted to mention that we finally gave some honor to our flying-ace Group Captain (Ret'd) Saiful Azam Shaheb. Gladdens the heart that he received some recognition from the country of his birth after many many years....this was at the RAOWA convention center marking the organizations' 36th anniversary.

 

[araberuni7]

Meh, there is many hidden additional cost factor when operating Grippen hence there is less countries interested on Grippen compared with F 16 or even Flanker.

The same IAF expert who ditch Grippen E offer from SAAB and instead chose Rafale and adding more Su 30 MKI in recent procurement program, sure that says alot about Grippen Mighty in paper sheet and mock training against earlier model of J 11 (in which rip off of Flanker). Not to say Indonesia choice of Flanker E / Su 35 over Grippen E because they are short legged and must carry additional fuel tanks. Beside Brazil, there is not much country picking Grippen E seriously (if not US spy cases Brazil surely will deal for F/A 18).

Truth is brutal sometimes. The main reason Indonesia choose to buy Su-35 because the Russian is willing to accept palm oil and coffee as a currency.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ade-palm-coffee-for-sukhoi-jets-idUSKBN1AM05X

Sweden does not accept palm oil or coffee as currency. But Sweden offers Line of Credit to Brazil and Malaysia. Maybe Bangladesh will get LoC if we approach Saab.

AFAIK, IAF is ditching Su-57 as well in favor of F-35. IAF will add 324 Tejas than Su-30MKI. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...k-2-jet-is-delivered/articleshow/63306776.cms

IAF had enough of Su-30MKI hence they will order more western fighter jet. 36 more Rafale. Just keep on eye IAF.

The main reason IAF choose Rafale over Gripen because Rafale can carry Nuke Gripen doesn't. Rafale is perfect fit for India's nuclear posture. France also promises to fix Kaveri engine and Uttam Radar which has been in development for years.

I get frustrated when people post nonsense without reading the actual analysis. But I don't expect everyone to be analytical and problem solver either.

 

[Michael Corleone]

That's a high point indeed. America cleared the sale of Engines to Thailand during the time of the military coup. Besides Gripen's engines are licensed produced in Sweden by Volvo. Saab Defence has a reasonably excellent reputation with the American. This is not an issue at all. Unlike the Russian and the Chinese, Saab has an excellent after sales support record.

We worry too much about America, but in fact, America and EU are saving our *** from Myanmar.

For missiles, we use MBDA and Denel Dynamics. Also, Sweden can supply stockpiles of missiles and bombs to Bangladesh. They have done it. In fact, European countries these days do not pay much attention as long as you pay them they are happy. The UK has supplied a large number of missiles from their inventory to Saudi Arabia. We can source weapons from the UK as well. Often Sweden supply Armament with the fighter jets.
Look at the IAF Su-30MKI. Russian screwed IAF on after sales support. I doubt half the Su-30MKI would be operational. The Chinese are a bit better, but they have the same issue.
BTW Gripen E/F uses COTS for the software and electronics. These are not proprietary software. Giraffe AMB is Sweden's IP so no need to ask for permission from anybody. RBS-15 is also Saab's IP.
I know it's costly exercise but if BAF buys Gripen, then it will send a message to MAF and fear God in their heart that 16 Gripen E supported by Saab GlobalEye or Airbus AEWC can kill 31 MiG, 6 Su-30 and 12 Junk Fighter in any day or night in any weather.



Woow that's a statement from someone who is not aware of recent development. Please read IAF study on Gripen E vs F-16 Block 70 (F-16V). IAF team of expert concluded that Gripen E is not only superior to F-16 Block 70 but also advanced in many ways to F/A-18 Super Hornet E/F. BVR rating of Gripen E is higher than any Russian and Chinese Fighter jet including so called Su-30MKI which is parked in their garage. This is not me saying this is an independent study by IAF.

Gripen C beat J-11A which is Su-30MKK. The Chinese pilot gobsmacked when they saw Gripen C roaring ahead of twin engines J-11A. Su-30MKK or J-11A was not a close match to C variant of Gripen. Think what E variant of Gripen would do.

Operational Environment
The one superior advantage of the Gripen is its ability to take off, fully loaded, from a runway only 2,800′ long and land in as little as 2,600′. This was a design requirement from the beginning, believing that the Swedish Air Force would have to improvise after a first strike attack against its air bases and thus force the Air Force to fly from unimproved highways and small commuter airports. This has to be an appealing feature for all its current export country customers.

The Gripen can be tasked with air dominance and area denial role, the Gripen can also perform naval denial helping to protect territorial sovereignty. Gripen is not just a multirole but a swing role meaning it can switch operational role in flight.

One Gripen can provide radar sensing for four of its colleagues, allowing a single fighter to track targets, while the others use the data for a stealthy attack. TIDLS also permits multiple fighters to quickly and accurately lock onto targets track through triangulation from several radars or allows one fighter to jam targets while another tracks it, or allows multiple fighters to use different radar frequencies collaboratively to “burn through” jamming transmissions.
Comparing with other Aircraft

The Gripen is now an 18 years old platform with excellent factory support. Probably on par with a Boeing F/A-18E/F super hornet model or F-15E Strike Eagle. The F-15E, Strike Eagle Model, has a full suite of electronics which earlier models did not have while the JAS39 E/F models already do.

The Gripen would over-match against advanced Chinese built J-10C and J-16 in addition to PLAAF Su-35.

The Gripen has a tighter turning radius and does not bleed off energy as quickly and thus has a speed advantage in air combat manoeuvring (ACM) against the Su-30.

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V Putin and Xi can't match it.

Those who are spectics of Gripen E. Please read this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ipen-F-35-competitor-takes-maiden-flight.html

See ignorance we can buy em, great but liscenced produced technology has to be cleared by America to sell to a third party. That includes, radar, engines, missiles etc

That’s a great question. At least attempt it. Political lobby. Plus this Trump administration is eager to sell.

Yep. If bd has a chance, this is it.

 

[araberuni7]

See ignorance we can buy em, great but liscenced produced technology has to be cleared by America to sell to a third party. That includes, radar, engines, missiles etc


Yep. If bd has a chance, this is it.

Yes agreed on engine.
Radar and Missile do not need to be cleared by America. Raven radar and missiles are EU origin.

 

[Avicenna]

Yes agreed on engine.
Radar and Missile do not need to be cleared by America. Raven radar and missiles are EU origin.

Trump is ready to sell. All that’s needed is some effective political lobbying in Washington.

Bangladesh should hire a PR firm or something.

Learn from other countries how they get their interests looked after by lobbying in Washington.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Yes agreed on engine.
Radar and Missile do not need to be cleared by America. Raven radar and missiles are EU origin.

Ah cool, read up some new stuff I thought they were still using AARAAM and sidewinders

 

[ghost250]

 

[Avicenna]

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Nice camo on the C-130.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Meh, there is many hidden additional cost factor when operating Grippen hence there is less countries interested on Grippen compared with F 16 or even Flanker.

The same IAF expert who ditch Grippen E offer from SAAB and instead chose Rafale and adding more Su 30 MKI in recent procurement program, sure that says alot about Grippen Mighty in paper sheet and mock training against earlier model of J 11 (in which rip off of Flanker). Not to say Indonesia choice of Flanker E / Su 35 over Grippen E because they are short legged and must carry additional fuel tanks. Beside Brazil, there is not much country picking Grippen E seriously (if not US spy cases Brazil surely will deal for F/A 18).

what hidden cost are you mentioning about!?

I wanted to mention that we finally gave some honor to our flying-ace Group Captain (Ret'd) Saiful Azam Shaheb. Gladdens the heart that he received some recognition from the country of his birth after many many years....this was at the RAOWA convention center marking the organizations' 36th anniversary.

He passed away right

 

[Bilal9]

He passed away right

No no - I believe Saiful Azam saheb still lives in Dhaka Cantt. DOHS area with his relatives. Along with the other famous Bengali flying ACE M.M. Alam (who was born in Chittagong and passed away in Pakistan in 2013 and is interred at Masroor AB), he was the recipient of Sitara-e-Jurat. According to the PAF, he scored more kills than any other pilots against the Israeli AF flying for the Jordanian AF. He was decorated with Jordan’s Order of Independence medal as well.

More here,
http://militaryhistorynow.com/2013/08/21/have-jet-will-travel-the-amazing-story-of-saiful-azam/

You don't hear from him much nowadays because he was a BNP supporter/politician back in the day and also because his health is really frail.

Our former president Ziaur Rahman, who was a commissioned military officer by career, was also decorated for gallantry and won the distinguished and prestigious Hilal-e-Jurat medal. Zia served in the Khemkaran sector in Punjab as the commander of a Pakistani company unit of about 500 soldiers, which was the scene of the most intense tank battle between Indian and Pakistani armies.

The Pakistani government awarded Zia's unit with the highest numbers of gallantry awards for heroic performances during the war. Zia's unit won 2 Sitara-e-Jurat medals and 9 Tamgha-e-Jurat medals from the Army for their brave roles in the 1965 War with India.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No no - I believe Saiful Azam saheb still lives in Dhaka Cantt. DOHS area with his relatives. Along with the other famous Bengali flying ACE M.M. Alam (who was born in Chittagong and passed away in Pakistan in 2013 and is interred at Masroor AB), he was the recipient of Sitara-e-Jurat. According to the PAF, he scored more kills than any other pilots against the Israeli AF flying for the Jordanian AF. He was decorated with Jordan’s Order of Independence medal as well.

More here,
http://militaryhistorynow.com/2013/08/21/have-jet-will-travel-the-amazing-story-of-saiful-azam/

You don't hear from him much nowadays because he was a BNP supporter/politician back in the day and also because his health is really frail.

Our former president Ziaur Rahman, who was a commissioned military officer by career, was also decorated for gallantry and won the distinguished and prestigious Hilal-e-Jurat medal. Zia served in the Khemkaran sector in Punjab as the commander of a Pakistani company unit of about 500 soldiers, which was the scene of the most intense tank battle between Indian and Pakistani armies.

The Pakistani government awarded Zia's unit with the highest numbers of gallantry awards for heroic performances during the war. Zia's unit won 2 Sitara-e-Jurat medals and 9 Tamgha-e-Jurat medals from the Army for their brave roles in the 1965 War with India.

MM Alam wasnt a bengali but a Bihari.

 

[The Ronin]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=812249228951989

 

[KapitaanAli]

Gripen E is great on paper and perfect for BAF.
But Saab is best at making brochures and not planes, so never induct them without trials. Let Brazil do it first.