Bangladesh Air Force

[Basel]

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Why not buying used C-130 with MLU from USA its economical and will add good capability too.

 

[Arthur]

Why not buying used C-130 with MLU from USA its economical and will add good capability too.

We requested three more and additional support for new and older one around 2011-12 from US surplus. No news since. Probably stuck at the FSA audit.

 

[Basel]

Maintainance wise ye acha option nahi hai
Agar f16 lena hai toh they should get rid of migs first
Pak ka alag bat hai

You don't have Mig-29s in numbers while F-16 are not maintenance intense as Mig-29s. US will not have issues selling them as India may not have issues with those.

 

[SQ8]

I will say it again, you have no qualification to give decision for BD. You are just a fan boy. What you did is a known characteristics of many trolls here.

I might not be a senior or a mod,but it is still the BAF thread in BD section. And you are not a Bangladeshi.

So yes,please don't come back.We hate to debate with people who doesn't have a clue.

That is a VERY false idea you have. ANYONE FROM ANY COUNTRY CAN COMMENT AND OFFER SUGGESTIONS ON ANY THREAD .. as long as it is reasonable.

You reported a post that does not seem to violate anything, please advise where the violation you say is trolling occured.

 

[Arthur]

That is a VERY false idea you have. ANYONE FROM ANY COUNTRY CAN COMMENT AND OFFER SUGGESTIONS ON ANY THREAD .. as long as it is reasonable.

You reported a post that does not seem to violate anything, please advise where the violation you say is trolling occured.

As far as I recall I reported for offtopic,trolling and abusive language.

I am sorry that I had gone extra hard un the second reply, but given the context he used slurr in response of my first request and I reacted on that.You can delete my posts if you seem it fit.

 

[SQ8]

As far as I recall I reported for offtopic,trolling and abusive language.

I am sorry that I had gone extra hard but given the context he used slurr in response of my first post to my first request and I reacted on that.You can delete my posts if you seem it fit.

I did not see that in your report. There was a 1 line post made which was then replied with a needless derailment on Pakistan when the best reply would be have the member elaborate what they meant.

On the topic:

The BAF seems to be a neglected end for now due to the reduced threat via air. However, just based on the geography of BD and the same experience had by the PAF in 71, the best route for BD is to have assets capable of deploying via dispersed airfields. But if it cannot afford or does not want them, then it can sign a treaty with India where the Indian Military forces will provide protection in case of conflict and all BD will need is a land army with border police.

 

[Arthur]

I did not see that in your report. There was a 1 line post made which was then replied with a needless derailment on Pakistan when the best reply would be have the member elaborate what they meant.

I didn't made any mention of Pakistan. I responded to his post #1978 where he said some platform in "unneccessery' by saying he isn't a BAF expert. Then he replied with a slurr word in the end of the post. check post #1990. There is only 2 reply in total between two of us.

Anyway I most probably reported the wrong post. You are welcome to delete my posts if you decide it fit.

 

[SQ8]

I didn't made any mention of Pakistan. I responded to his post #1978 where he said some platform in "unneccessery' by saying he isn't a BAF expert. Then he replied with a slurr word in the end of the post. check post #1990. There is only 2 reply in total between two of us.

Anyway I most probably reported the wrong post. You are welcome to delete my posts if you decide it fit.

No you, another member did. They should know better than to start off flaming in the get go.

 

[bluesky]

You don't have Mig-29s in numbers while F-16 are not maintenance intense as Mig-29s. US will not have issues selling them as India may not have issues with those.

Why do you think India will not make an issue if there is a talk on buying F-16 planes? Today, USA's best Asian friend is India because of geopolitics in Asia and our region.

 

[Bilal9]

I did not see that in your report. There was a 1 line post made which was then replied with a needless derailment on Pakistan when the best reply would be have the member elaborate what they meant.

On the topic:

The BAF seems to be a neglected end for now due to the reduced threat via air. However, just based on the geography of BD and the same experience had by the PAF in 71, the best route for BD is to have assets capable of deploying via dispersed airfields. But if it cannot afford or does not want them, then it can sign a treaty with India where the Indian Military forces will provide protection in case of conflict and all BD will need is a land army with border police.

I would respectfully disagree with the view that BAF either

a) cannot afford or
b) does not want

air-superiority or at least air-defense assets.

To wit,

1. The dispersed airfields during PAF times are still available and some have been modernized in the last five or so years.
2. Because our AF budget is on the low side, there won't be a priority to equip BAF well at this time.

However I would posit that the BAF (along with all other armed national defense services in Bangladesh except maybe Home Ministry/RAB or armed police) do possess independent decision-making ability on their asset budgeting and procurement. Hasina plays it nice with the armed forces and leaves them alone. Doing otherwise has boded ill for the tenure of all PM's historically.

All Chief of Staff of the armed forces maintain tactful protocol with the Prime Minister and it is reportedly a quid-pro-quo situation.

They run things independently without undue influence in civilian affairs. And in return they expect and get the arms that they feel they want per the overtly published 'Forces Goal 2030' and other covert assets. Building the Navy is the priority at this time for obvious reasons. BAF is the third child after the army and will get leftover funds for now.

While Bangladesh won't be getting 4th Gen. air-superiority fighters anytime soon (your assessment is accurate about overt neglect of BAF), we still can't rule this out being available in small numbers for training needs. We won't be trumpeting the acquisition of assets and asking everyone in the neighborhood for their opinion on this, It happens when it does. I trust the judgment of the senior BAF leaders. They understand that their country is not on a war footing and that funds are limited for expensive defense purchases.

That said - for a country in Bangladesh' defense posture profile, we have had both the Navy and Army's air wing equipment heavily modernized. SHORAD defenses have also been deployed along the coastline and at logistics points.

While you are accurate about not ignoring the whims of Modi administration in this PM's tenure, things could be different in the next one. No administration lasts forever. And no administration in Bangladesh being a smaller neighbor within SAARC (which we mooted by the way) can ignore subcontinental Geo-politics.

I will finally say that signing a 'defense treaty' with India is rather out of the question. My prediction is that Bangladesh will rather choose to turn into Afghanistan if that is even attempted and that is not what policymakers in Lodhi Road even want. No one is trying to turn Bangladesh into 'Ram Rajya' and the price will be too steep.

I'd also say (a little OT) - that India's concern is a 'stable economic market entity' for selling a combination of the likes of 'Amla Hair oil' (FMCG goods) and textile looms (capital goods) and they are happy with that. If Pakistan wants to sell us FMCG, Capital goods as well as do business, we are open for that too. I personally know quite a few Pakistani families who do active trade in Bangladesh in the textile sector.

 

[Basel]

Why do you think India will not make an issue if there is a talk on buying F-16 planes? Today, USA's best Asian friend is India because of geopolitics in Asia and our region.

Because you have a very friendly Government towards India and F-16 MLUed even if 40 purchased are still no big threat to India, if you compare it with quality and size of Indian air force, it only add BD in Indo-US and their allies equation.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Why not buying used C-130 with MLU from USA its economical and will add good capability too.

Considered still pending in FSA and pentagon approval.

You don't have Mig-29s in numbers while F-16 are not maintenance intense as Mig-29s. US will not have issues selling them as India may not have issues with those.

F-16 is a single jet engine so comparatively no. But for two engined jets... mig29 maintenance is reasonable. Don't forget maintenance cost of f-16 is extremely high when compared with a mig 29

On the topic:

The BAF seems to be a neglected end for now due to the reduced threat via air. However, just based on the geography of BD and the same experience had by the PAF in 71, the best route for BD is to have assets capable of deploying via dispersed airfields. But if it cannot afford or does not want them, then it can sign a treaty with India where the Indian Military forces will provide protection in case of conflict and all BD will need is a land army with border police.

That is something Bangladeshi people won't be okay with. To be frank.

 

[Arthur]

 

[Arthur]

 

[Basel]

Considered still pending in FSA and pentagon approval.


F-16 is a single jet engine so comparatively no. But for two engined jets... mig29 maintenance is reasonable. Don't forget maintenance cost of f-16 is extremely high when compared with a mig 29


That is something Bangladeshi people won't be okay with. To be frank.

F-16 is cheaper in life cycle cost and maintenance while Mig-29 is expensive. Mig-29 have two engines because when it was made USSR didn't had enough powerful engine to power F-16 class / size jet that is why Mig-29 had 2 engines.

You can compare both early F-16 and Mig-29 specifications.