Same can be said with Pakistan and f-16s when looking at their economy.
Yeah,they can't even buy cheap helicopters to fight the taliban...
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Same can be said with Pakistan and f-16s when looking at their economy.
This post about grey reminds me of 50 shades of grey!The Chinese paint shades for F-7 BGI are not standard NATO Aircraft Grey shades which is to be expected.
The two main NATO Aircraft grey colors for F-16s are,
Light Aircraft Grey
and Dark Aircraft Grey
There is also a shade called Aggressor Grey below (in addition to the other lighter greys) which the US Navy's F-16's are painted in to simulate smaller MiGs from hostile nations.
As you can see the differences are rather subtle....
Haha....Same here...This post about grey reminds me of 50 shades of grey!
You took it straight to the heart didn't you?Why did u call it expensive? Our economy is doing better than yours,remember? And we CAN afford a few squadrons of 4th generation birds..
Never did i said "inappropriate",I want BD to have all the good stuff in the world but that isn't the point right?A fight with Burma can be considered but you won't be able to cope up with IAF no never.And why did you say "inappropiate"? Myanmar is extremely agressive towards us and they have 4 times more MiG-29s than us..Plus there is a big bully neighbour...
PAF newer F-16's are equipped with sniper pod's and db 110 recce pods which help targeting/observing thus are useful for precise delivering of gifts to talis from PAF.And I'd call the Pakistani F-16s as "inappropiate" because they first need more helicopters to fight taliban..No offence...
Anytime bruv.Thanks...
I don't understand local language's please take some time to explain it to me.I can only translate the word "harami" which is as far as i know isn't the nicest of the things to say to someone.Harami,tui nijer ta dekh,pore kotha koish...
Pakistan bought 8 subs for 6 billion$ still not impressed?I can brag more but you have google use it.Same can be said with Pakistan and f-16s when looking at their economy.
Pakistan paid ~1 Billion$ for 15 AH-1z,in layman terms half of BD army budget isn't it?Yeah,they can't even buy cheap helicopters to fight the taliban...
Yeah,they can't even buy cheap helicopters to fight the taliban...
Yeah,they can't even buy cheap helicopters to fight the taliban...
Pakistan spends billions on its defense and who can blame them. But judging by the economic condition of Pakistan that money can be put in more better goals of economic development. Oh and defense budget of bangladesharmed forces is around 3 billion usd now. Not counting in the paramilitary budget. (Border guard budget, etc. Which totals upto 5 billion) cope with IAF in numbers game? No never not Bangladesh not even Pakistan. But both our airforces are well trained and won't be giving up skies for cheap. We will build deterrence instead. I should say... However Pakistan is being sold crap by Americans now. F-16s are like what 50 years old. Pakistan should definitely go for Chinese variant of sukhoi to build their strength as Russia might be reluctant because India.You took it straight to the heart didn't you?
as far as your economy is concerned yes you are right because BD isn't fighting war right now.Pakistan started receiving it's first more than average FDI this year because of 80% decline in Tango's after zarb e azb. Discussion was about BD not PAK however,if pak ever wanted something it surely got it e.g. Nukes,F-16's back in 1980's (keep that in mind it was the F-35 of 80's)AH-1's/8 aip subs for 6 billion$ and all the good stuff.As our economy took a hit because of floods/earthquakes and terrorism it was declining now as we are done with it,the graph shows positivity.
Moving on to BD ,SU-35 are 4++ most SU-30's are also 4+ a minimum of 80 million/aircraft when you buy from scratch.2nd hand SU-27 are old not good in BVR and too expensive to maintain(over 30K$/hr) Pakistan was offered but it later rejected for more f-16.
Never did i said "inappropriate",I want BD to have all the good stuff in the world but that isn't the point right?A fight with Burma can be considered but you won't be able to cope up with IAF no never.
Nonetheless BD milatary budget is 2 billion$ which won't be able to support expensive aircraft like Sukhois or Mig's 35/29M.
Burma is getting PAC JFT very soon,MIG-29M can be bought to counter that.
PAF newer F-16's are equipped with sniper pod's and db 110 recce pods which help targeting/observing thus are useful for precise delivering of gifts to talis from PAF.
DB-100 and sniper can be seen in pics below.
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Coming to heli's yes you are right,PAA needs more heli's and that is what they are doing.PAA is already operating 70+ Attack chopper AH-1's ,Z-10' ,fennecs,IAR 330s etc.As it is about to retire 50 AH-1s by 2017 it has placed orders for Ah-1z,Mi-35 possibly 2 other platform from these MI-28,T-129,Z-19 and Z-10 as they plan to operate 100+ dedicated attack chopper by 2020.So you shouldn't worry about that.
Anytime bruv.
I don't understand local language's please take some time to explain it to me.I can only translate the word "harami" which is as far as i know isn't the nicest of the things to say to someone.
Pakistan bought 8 subs for 6 billion$ still not impressed?I can brag more but you have google use it.
F-16's cost 80 million$/aircraft now ,that is why PAF is reluctant to buy more and was forcing FMS to subsidise it for them,as lobby turned against FMS,PAF is opting for newer options to fill in the gap for 190 aircraft both inhouse and foreign options are being looked at,SU-35 was offered back in 2015,EFT ,J-10,rafale,MIG-35 also cost around from 50-120 million $ which is not much when buying a newer aircraft nowadays.PAF hasn't done a big ticket purchase since 2000's so it is her turn after navy.You will not be disappointed i promise
Pakistan paid ~1 Billion$ for 15 AH-1z,in layman terms half of BD army budget isn't it?
And is about to pay more for another batch.You can do the maths.PAA is going to replace 50 (original 60).
Don't talk about econmics of Pak these days, it will be a different story to tell next year.Pakistan spends billions on its defense and who can blame them. But judging by the economic condition of Pakistan that money can be put in more better goals of economic development. Oh and defense budget of bangladesharmed forces is around 3 billion usd now. Not counting in the paramilitary budget. (Border guard budget, etc. Which totals upto 5 billion) cope with IAF in numbers game? No never not Bangladesh not even Pakistan. But both our airforces are well trained and won't be giving up skies for cheap. We will build deterrence instead. I should say... However Pakistan is being sold crap by Americans now. F-16s are like what 50 years old. Pakistan should definitely go for Chinese variant of sukhoi to build their strength as Russia might be reluctant because India.
I gave an opinion on the aircraft instead debating why it maybe potent to them they started targeting at my flag,which i couldn't/cannot bear,cleared of their "misconceptions" is all i did,i hate derailing threads.
If BD knows what to do and you believe in them,then what has this forum got for you?It was a discussion thread and that is what i am doing,don't try to sound like a moderator or a senior member you ain't one.
This isn't your hood this a forum open to debate.
Hope i never come back to this thread,full of bellends.
You do realize recently air forces pilot have assured press that all mugs are operational and 4 are sent to Ukraine for overhaul. Where are you getting your source from. JUST GO AND CHECK KURMITOLA BASE. THE MIGS ARE AT THE HANGER. One two seat version and 3 single seat version.BAF has been "gifted" an ACM and few AVMs although the inventory does not require more than an Air Commodore to command. Under the current dispensation BAF is to limit itself to choppers, transports and trainers. The F-7 squadrons are the best they have. One Mig -29 is for show purpose on victory day. Another dual model is to keep the pilots current. The other six are for canibalising parts to keep these two flying - the top most function of the unfortunate Air Chief.