Bangladesh Air Force sends pilots for training on F-18 Jets

[TopCat]

You may never buy Hornets or maybe you may get some moth balled 3.5 generation US Fighters ranging from f16, f-15 or maybe even f18 but till you interact with US navy or airforce you will not know how good they are and they will not know how good you are.The second reason is that no one will give you free planes in Europe as we cannot afford it but the US can under FMS.

As I said lets wait and watch ?

Regards

Ps : If it happens it is because once upon a time BAF flew sabres and why not again.

That was my point. Since US was interested in providing F-18 training instead of F-16, means a lot to me. Providing F-16 will not be any use for USA as BD's land cant be used as a launch pad for any combat operation but BD can well participate with USA based on their carrier if they were used to F-18. thats the whole idea of this fuzz. That is my gutt feeling. Couple of month ago US donated 21 boats to our navy. They had been providing training to our army even building SWAT force similar to US SWAT. There must be a reason behind all these.

 

[TopCat]

then why US cry to delever there waipons to china there some thing bro .we don't got many waipons from US just because these got acsess of china. WHY RUSSIA CRY OVER su-27 GO TO USA?

That was a joke.. lets stick to the F-18...

 

[Imran Khan]

That was a joke.. lets stick to the F-18...

SO OK BUT WHAT ABUT LINK AS SIR GHREEB N ASKING

 

[leonblack08]

That was my point. Since US was interested in providing F-18 training instead of F-16, means a lot to me. Providing F-16 will not be any use for USA as BD's land cant be used as a launch pad for any combat operation but BD can well participate with USA based on their carrier if they were used to F-18. thats the whole idea of this fuzz. That is my gutt feeling. Couple of month ago US donated 21 boats to our navy. They had been providing training to our army even building SWAT force similar to US SWAT. There must be a reason behind all these.

Also BN SWADS.

I remember US ambassador giving a speech on the graduation ceremony of BN SWADS members.Besides they are trained in US and ROK seal style.

 

[garibnawaz]

Gharib sahib,

What is your problem with familiarization flights? What if BAF are thinking about buying some and have their pilots evaluating the type?

You may not know, however there is a lot of stuff that goes on before things even become official and contracts are signed. How can a BAF pilot possibly even show interest in a type without getting some familiarity with it?

Nothing may come out of this, but why such negativity? If the pilot is crouching in front of an aircraft with his helmet on his lap, he is bound to be flying the aircraft.

Eventually BAF will have to consider multi-mission/multi-role platforms and the Western ones tend to offer better availability and technical edge. Even a smaller fleet of 18 or so F/A-18s would simplify things for BAF greatly from a logistics standpoint and at the same time add immense capability.

I think the Mig-29 experience has been alright for BAF and they may be looking for a Western solution. With BD-US relations cordial, a sale is feasible and possible.

Dear Blain,

First and formost no need for calling sahib. You can either call me GB, Gharib or Shahnawaz.

I hate to be called as sir or sahib.

Secondly I have no issues with Bangladesh getting F-18 or evaluating F-18 or getting training on F-18.

The topic of the thread says Bangladesh Air Force sends pilots for training on F-18 Jets.

If it is so have I done something wrong in asking for links or sources?. If there are photos available then this news might not be a confidential. If it is confidential and photos have surfaced through some other way then How reliable is the claim that BAF has sent their pilots for training?

Now whether they are evaluating or going to purchase is another thing. I am asking something which is related to the subject of the thread.

but why such negativity

You got it wrong. There is no negativity. The thread starter posted IAF MKI's welcoming the first Air India B-777 photos and named it as Indian Fighter escorting Indian PM's plane.

Such misinformation is deliberately spread on this forum by some members. I can point out many such threads. Even on the same thread there is a photo of Malaysian pilots with Malaysian F-18's which the members are trying to prove as Bangladeshi Pilots.

We all come here to gain knowledge for which many times we share our own knowledge as well. If the BAF pilots are being sent for training, or any other purpose, I dont think I am wrong in asking for links or sources.

Rather than providing links or sources the members are coming up with further unconfirmed news which irritating me here.

I hope as a Super Moderator you will understand my above points and appriciate my demand for a reliable link or a source for any claim which is made.

The title is clear that Bangladesh Air Force sends pilots for training on F-18 Jets hence there should not be any if or but or any maginitive theory behind it.

I will appriciate your reply either in the topic or in PM.

Ps : be careful while posing with the AK 47, knowing you you will probably shoot yourself in the foot.

In that case I must say that you don't know me at all. I will not even bothor to discuss further with you as you have proven that you cant back any of your claim or a theory.

I accept, I am afraid of BAF buying F-18's. I am shiverring in fear as the future of my country is in danger due to BAF buying F-18's.

Damn the IAF will loose the war with Bangladesh (if any) within minutes due to this.

SAVYYY??

GB

 

[chisty_chowdhury]

 

[chisty_chowdhury]

 

[TopCat]

Yap this is the one left for BAF by US Navy. The background is from Kurmitulla air base.

 

[leonblack08]

Yes that's the one left by US marines.Some people read (Garib Nawaz) didn't believe it when I posted another pic of F-18.

Thanks Chisty for the pictures.

 

[garibnawaz]

Gentlemen,

Especially the ill informed Gentlmen, and the Superior Mr.Neautral.

Here is the whole story behind the above pictures which are posted in this thread.

All the photos posted are from Excersice Sumo Tiger 2007. Yes this excersice occured in 2007.

The excersice was done with US Marines and not US navy. Marines did not left any F-18 behind. The F-18 was for public display especially friends and family of BAF.

This excersice was covered by US Marines official website.

MAG-12 Marines kick off Sumo Tiger in Bangladesh
1st Lt. Adrian J.T. Rankine-Galloway

KURMITOLA AIR BASE, Bangladesh (November 2, 2007) -- Morning mist rose above a jungle-bound airfield in Bangladesh Oct. 25 as aircraft from Marine Fighter-Attack Squadron 314 and the Bangladesh Air Force revved to life to start a day of flight operations during Exercise Sumo Tiger 2007.

The "Black Knights" of VMFA-314 and several other detachments from Marine Aircraft Group 12, 1st Marine Aircraft Wing, participated in the bilateral exercise between the U.S. Marine Corps and BAF Oct. 24-31.

"The purpose of this exercise is to practice and learn from each other," said Wing Cmdr. Rafik, the senior BAF officer in charge of the exercise, as he addressed U.S. and Bangladeshi officers on the opening day of the exercise. "We look forward to some good, safe flying."

Sumo Tiger is part of an ongoing effort by the U.S. military to strengthen the security of Asia and the Pacific region by enhancing U.S. forces' ability to work alongside militaries throughout the region and by promoting professional relationships between exercise participants.

During the exercise, the Black Knights went head-to-head in training against Chinese-manufactured F-7 Fantan jet fighters and Russian-built MiG-29 Fulcrums.

"The Bangladesh Air Force personnel are very professional," said Lt. Col. Flay R. Goodwin, the Black Knights commanding officer. "They have taken care of us since we got here, and it has been good to fly with them."

The exercise focused heavily on the exchange between American and Bangladeshi pilots, but aviation support personnel from both countries also shared expertise. From air traffic control to aircraft maintenance to crash fire rescue, Marines and BAF personnel teamed up to share knowledge and learn from one another.


"It's a good experience," said Gunnery Sgt. Randal Southern, an air traffic controller with Marine Air Control Squadron 4. "You get to see different aspects of controlling and the different way they do things."


Military personnel from both countries took a day off from flying Oct. 26 to allow the Kurmitola Air Base community to see the U.S. and Bangladeshi aircraft. Hundreds of family members and friends got an up-close look at an American F/A-18C Hornet and a Bangladeshi F-7 and MiG-29.

"I'm exhausted, but I've never smiled so much," said Maj. Scott Fortner, a pilot with the Black Knights after an afternoon of showing off his aircraft to throngs of curious Bangladeshi visitors.

MAG-12 Marines kick off Sumo Tiger in Bangladesh

Conclusions.

1) The excersice was done in October - 2007
2) It was a bilateral training excersice.
3) No training was given to Bangladeshi Air Force pilots on F-18. All the BAF pilots did was sat in cockpit, stand in front of the planes and took photos. May be the CO or couple of pilots got rides. But no training.
4) Officially no F-18's are offered to Bangladesh neither any training provided.
5) As mentioned by me earlier every activity is monitered by US military media. I have provided the link from the official US Marines press release with whom the excersice was conducted. Not Navy.
6) These were F-18 Hornets and not Super Hornets.

I hope Blain2 and other members got my point now.

Based on some 2 year old pictures the kids came up with their theories of BAF pilots getting training, F-18 offered to BAF etc.

People also came up with their lies that since this was a confidential excersice no one covered it. Contradictory to BD members claim that BD media does not cover defence related stuff, this excersice was covered by mainstream BD media. Link is provided below.

:The Daily Star: Internet Edition

The pictures posted above are from Marines squadron VMFA-314 which participated in the said excersice in 2007.

I want to know it Blain2 is going to take action against lies like

1) BD media doest not cover defence news related to BD defence
2) Topic subject which says BAF pilots are sent for training on F-18. They are not sent anywhere neither training is provided on F-18.

Untill and unless people have another confidential theories.

Sorry to spoil the party and expose the lies.

GB

 

[garibnawaz]

Yes that's the one left by US marines.Some people read (Garib Nawaz) didn't believe it when I posted another pic of F-18.

Thanks Chisty for the pictures.

I never questioned the pictures.

I questioned the lies.....

1) BAF pilots are on F-18 training.
2) BD media never covers BD related defence matters.
3) F-18 is offered to BAF.
4) The plane was not left. It was for public display which US Marines took it back after the display.

GB

 

[chisty_chowdhury]

Conclusions.

3) No training was given to Bangladeshi Air Force pilots on F-18. All the BAF pilots did was sat in cockpit, stand in front of the planes and took photos. May be the CO or couple of pilots got rides. But no training.

Yea no training was given then, but how u r sure there is no training going on?

5) As mentioned by me earlier every activity is monitered by US military media. I have provided the link from the official US Marines press release with whom the excersice was conducted. Not Navy.

Does the US media provide every activities between US & Israel?

Based on some 2 year old pictures the kids came up with their theories of BAF pilots getting training, F-18 offered to BAF etc.

Then let the kids discuss. If it is 2yr old, then there must be new thing happening.

The pictures posted above are from Marines squadron VMFA-314 which participated in the said excersice in 2007.

I want to know it Blain2 is going to take action against lies like

2) Topic subject which says BAF pilots are sent for training on F-18. They are not sent anywhere neither training is provided on F-18.
GB

How u r sure of that??

 

[Luftwaffe]

suppose BD is offered and BD buys F-18 is there any future plans to upgrade trainers for BD..i would wonder since K-8 is not a subsonic Jet trainer therefore for such a high tech piece like F-18s BD would needing something else..care to discuss members..

 

[TopCat]

How are they getting trained for Migs and F-7s. Both are supersonic fighter right??? I bet f-18 will be easier than Migs to fly.

 

[Luftwaffe]

sorry to bring PAF in here but I've been hearing PAF for F-16s/FC-20 talking about L-15s how long are you going to drag L-39/T-37 for say advance training of pilots for F-18..