Balkanization of India is viable but I don't care

[Kamikaze Pilot]

care to spell out how these balkanized states will generate business and money to sustain themselves ?

People who subvert may think, "The money problem would be somehow taken care of later. First the breakup should be achieved." When Pakistan was formed, it had scarce funds. Many had predicted it would not survive for long. Yet here it is after 70 years.

- PRTP GWD

 

[Sharma Ji]

People who subvert may think, "The money problem would be somehow taken care of later. First the breakup should be achieved." When Pakistan was formed, it had scarce funds. Many had predicted it would not survive for long. Yet here it is after 70 years.

- PRTP GWD

and just where and in which of our states could this "Pakistan model" ever have even the slightest of a chance of being implemented successfully ?

independent nation of Tamil Naad ? or Kerala.. Mizoram ?

kya bakwaas karte ho yaar

 

[The Maverick]

People who subvert may think, "The money problem would be somehow taken care of later. First the breakup should be achieved." When Pakistan was formed, it had scarce funds. Many had predicted it would not survive for long. Yet here it is after 70 years.

- PRTP GWD

It's more likely that Pakistan will breakup because of your medievil attitude towards religious and ethnic identity being prevalent in your thinking. Punjabi run the country and your pasthuns are closer to Afghan . The baluchaui minority want their own country.

Being a much weaker country economically and as I suggested your ethnic intolerance makes your ripe for splitting up fueled by outside powers be it USA Israel India or even iran

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

apart from some in the Kashmir valley, and minor problems in the north east.. nobody wants to separate from the motherland.

Of course, there's no insurgency in other states. But the hatred is real. Northies being in large numbers in companies in South and discriminating against Southies during recruitment. I know of one instance where one US based IT professional hailing from Himachal Pradesh and one hailing from TN had a heated argument over India's nationhood. The Tamilian's grouse was about BIMARU states taking the revenues generated by South and denial of just & fair share of Cauvery water to TN. I suspect @manlion and @Jyotish are two such Tamilians.

- PRTP GWD

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Note: Those who read why India's balkanization is viable should also read why I don't care.

I am a civilian. I know nothing about security issues - internal or external. But I am the person on ground and I can vouch for the plethora of inter-community dislike or animosity. Why, I have read that even the cadets of that sacred institution - whose objective is to protect the country - the magnificent NDA, practice provincialism. The senior cadets often befriend and spare the juniors the ragging if they hail from their own state.

This is an incomplete list of who hates/dislikes whom and other subversive elements in India:

* Hindus hate Muslims and vice versa

* Negligible hate between Hindus and Christians but mixing of the rituals of the two religions and Hindu-Christian marriage are a taboo

* In some rural regions of Hindi belt the caste violence is so intense that entire families are wiped out including children

* The numbers of tribals - who serve as cannon fodder in naxalite groups - is high. They are a great destabilizing factor.

* Northies hate Southies and vice versa

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike bhaiyyas of UP and Bihar

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike/hate Kannadigas

* Kannadigas hate almost everyone else and vice versa

* Tamilians hate almost everyone else

* A percentage of Keralites hate Kannadigas

* Northies find Telugu speaking people (both from Telangana and Andhra Pradesh) particularly disgusting and nauseating and have given them jocular names

* Many states in North East - with the exception of Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh and nowadays hopefully Assam - hate mainland India

* Mainland Indians don't necessarily hate North East Indians but have a strong dislike and aversion to them and discriminate against them due to their Mongoloid features

* Goans are a special kind of idiots. They brawl with domestic tourists from all over the country but suck up to Whites and allow their nudity.

* Silver lining is nobody hates Sikhs and Sikhs hate nobody. Khalistan is history.

India also has two or three powerful enemies with whom it shares very long borders. But this situation is not an unusual case. In fact everywhere in the world balkanization process is ignited by foreign hand only.

One factor that works against the balkanization of India is the docility of South Indians. For balkanization, probably the entire populace should be of rebellious and perhaps a bit boisterous nature.

Why I don't care about India's fate?

Earlier I would root for singlehanded Indian victory over multiple external and internal enemies like Pakistan, China, USA, naxalites, Bangladesh etc. I would wonder if India is good enough to win and follow this "game". It would take exceptional intellect to prevent a tinderbox like India from inflaming. If one is able to hold India together like the British did, it would be nothing short of a work of a genius.

But I have had a bad experience with a genius. I was disappointed. Ever since, I have a dislike for geniuses. An explanatory paragraph:

I hate geniuses. I hate scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious economists and other technical prodigies. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't) I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

It's very painful. If the best of humankind are boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

Since then, I am past caring. I stopped bothering about whether the establishment pulls the challenging feat off or whether they fail. The moment I think of the actuality of geniuses I instantly lose interest in the games of international politics.

- PRTP GWD

A study on this is incomplete without a debate between @El Sidd and @SrNair.

Both of you Sirs, enrich our knowledge with your intellectual insights.

- PRTP GWD

 

[El Sidd]

A study on this is incomplete without a debate between @El Sidd and @SrNair.

Both of you Sirs, enrich our knowledge with your intellectual insights.

- PRTP GWD

I would urge the new states to cater for religious pilgrims from down south to himalayas as fundamental passage rights

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

I would urge the new states to cater for religious pilgrims from down south to himalayas as fundamental passage rights

What you say to this, @SrNair Saheb?

- PRTP GWD

 

[Kailash Kumar]

Of course, there's no insurgency in other states. But the hatred is real. Northies being in large numbers in companies in South and discriminating against Southies during recruitment. I know of one instance where one US based IT professional hailing from Himachal Pradesh and one hailing from TN had a heated argument over India's nationhood. The Tamilian's grouse was about BIMARU states taking the revenues generated by South and denial of just & fair share of Cauvery water to TN. I suspect @manlion and @Jyotish are two such Tamilians.

- PRTP GWD

@Bagheera

What?

I am Tamil now?

Seriously?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Note: Those who read why India's balkanization is viable should also read why I don't care.

I am a civilian. I know nothing about security issues - internal or external. But I am the person on ground and I can vouch for the plethora of inter-community dislike or animosity. Why, I have read that even the cadets of that sacred institution - whose objective is to protect the country - the magnificent NDA, practice provincialism. The senior cadets often befriend and spare the juniors the ragging if they hail from their own state.

This is an incomplete list of who hates/dislikes whom and other subversive elements in India:

* Hindus hate Muslims and vice versa

* Negligible hate between Hindus and Christians but mixing of the rituals of the two religions and Hindu-Christian marriage are a taboo

* In some rural regions of Hindi belt the caste violence is so intense that entire families are wiped out including children

* The numbers of tribals - who serve as cannon fodder in naxalite groups - is high. They are a great destabilizing factor.

* Northies hate Southies and vice versa

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike bhaiyyas of UP and Bihar

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike/hate Kannadigas

* Kannadigas hate almost everyone else and vice versa

* Tamilians hate almost everyone else

* A percentage of Keralites hate Kannadigas

* Northies find Telugu speaking people (both from Telangana and Andhra Pradesh) particularly disgusting and nauseating and have given them jocular names

* Many states in North East - with the exception of Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh and nowadays hopefully Assam - hate mainland India

* Mainland Indians don't necessarily hate North East Indians but have a strong dislike and aversion to them and discriminate against them due to their Mongoloid features

* Goans are a special kind of idiots. They brawl with domestic tourists from all over the country but suck up to Whites and allow their nudity.

* Silver lining is nobody hates Sikhs and Sikhs hate nobody. Khalistan is history.

India also has two or three powerful enemies with whom it shares very long borders. But this situation is not an unusual case. In fact everywhere in the world balkanization process is ignited by foreign hand only.

One factor that works against the balkanization of India is the docility of South Indians. For balkanization, probably the entire populace should be of rebellious and perhaps a bit boisterous nature.

Why I don't care about India's fate?

Earlier I would root for singlehanded Indian victory over multiple external and internal enemies like Pakistan, China, USA, naxalites, Bangladesh etc. I would wonder if India is good enough to win and follow this "game". It would take exceptional intellect to prevent a tinderbox like India from inflaming. If one is able to hold India together like the British did, it would be nothing short of a work of a genius.

But I have had a bad experience with a genius. I was disappointed. Ever since, I have a dislike for geniuses. An explanatory paragraph:

I hate geniuses. I hate scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious economists and other technical prodigies. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't) I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

It's very painful. If the best of humankind are boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

Since then, I am past caring. I stopped bothering about whether the establishment pulls the challenging feat off or whether they fail. The moment I think of the actuality of geniuses I instantly lose interest in the games of international politics.

- PRTP GWD

@jbgt90 @Arulmozhi Varman

- PRTP GWD

 

[letsrock]

This thread is good for pakistanis to jerk off hoping balkanization is actually happening and their Ghazwa-e-Hind plan is working out...glad you gave em something to breathe and have fun during these tough times

Balkanization is a good thing for indian people. Only those who love indian people will recommend it.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Pakistan has dropped the plan of orchestrating or slightly supporting or even sympathizing with Sikh referendum 2020. This is in accordance with their new strategy of keeping it's hands off and hoping for India's disintegration. Even a diplomatic lip service would result in Indians pointing fingers at them (Pakistanis) for internal problems.

@Novice09 @manga @Axomiya_lora @Capt. Karnage @RoshiniVenegal @Aaloo Tikki @Fireurimagination @Soumitra @aryadravida @Aswaklanta D @halupridol @Joe Shearer @Max @Super Falcon @Daghalodi @The_Showstopper @Jackdaws @Nilgiri @prashantazazel @xeuss @TheGreatMaratha @Lt General @letsrock @SrNair @ChennaiDude @Chhatrapati @Understudy @Srinivas @Protest_again @fitpOsitive @MayaBazar @aryadravida @Wounded-Monk
@Raj-Hindustani @GHALIB @jamahir @Raghav_101 @Pakistani Fighter @Brar @Shantanu_Left @Chanakyaa @Smarana Mitra @N.Siddiqui @dharmi @The Maverick @manlion @Jyotish @Zapper

- PRTP GWD

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Pakistan has dropped the plan of orchestrating or slightly supporting or even sympathizing with Sikh referendum 2020. This is in accordance with their new strategy of keeping it's hands off and hoping for India's disintegration. Even a diplomatic lip service would result in Indians pointing fingers at them for internal problems.

@Novice09 @manga @axomiya_iora @Capt. Karnage @RoshiniVenegal @Aaloo Tikki @Fireurimagination @Soumitra @aryadravida @Aswaklanta D @halupridol @Joe Shearer @Max @Super Falcon @Daghalodi @The_Showstopper @Jackdaws @Nilgiri @prashantazazel @xeuss @TheGreatMaratha @Lt General @letsrock @SrNair @ChennaiDude @Chhatrapati @Understudy @Srinivas @Protest_again @fitpOsitive @MayaBazar @aryadravida @Wounded-Monk
@Raj-Hindustani @GHALIB @jamahir @Raghav_101 @Pakistani Fighter @Brar @Shantanu_Left @Chanakyaa @Smarana Mitra @N.Siddiqui @dharmi @The Maverick @manlion @Jyotish @Zapper

- PRTP GWD

Kashmir and khalistan are dead horse's.

So, just need to ignore! Nothing going to change or will be happened

 

[Sharma Ji]

The Khalistan project was always a non starter, Pakistani planners understand this better than most Indians on PDF too.

The valley is the only place where they have some traction and are able to carry out some operations using/funding proxies + 'non state actor' infiltration. India has played well on the sticky Kashmiri wicket. Kept the insurgency, barring that one Pulwama incident, as a low intensity conflict, while proactively going after the militant groups, and the masses there still have no real reason for a huge uprising. Security's a bit tight, but life goes on as mostly normal for most.. current post 5th August curbs will not last forever..

Just let them keep what they have, we keep our side, LOC > proper border.. and khatam karo yeh useless game !

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Note: Those who read why India's balkanization is viable should also read why I don't care.

I am a civilian. I know nothing about security issues - internal or external. But I am the person on ground and I can vouch for the plethora of inter-community dislike or animosity. Why, I have read that even the cadets of that sacred institution - whose objective is to protect the country - the magnificent NDA, practice provincialism. The senior cadets often befriend and spare the juniors the ragging if they hail from their own state.

This is an incomplete list of who hates/dislikes whom and other subversive elements in India:

* Hindus hate Muslims and vice versa

* Negligible hate between Hindus and Christians but mixing of the rituals of the two religions and Hindu-Christian marriage are a taboo

* In some rural regions of Hindi belt the caste violence is so intense that entire families are wiped out including children

* The numbers of tribals - who serve as cannon fodder in naxalite groups - is high. They are a great destabilizing factor.

* Northies hate Southies and vice versa

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike bhaiyyas of UP and Bihar

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike/hate Kannadigas

* Kannadigas hate almost everyone else and vice versa

* Tamilians hate almost everyone else

* A percentage of Keralites hate Kannadigas

* Northies find Telugu speaking people (both from Telangana and Andhra Pradesh) particularly disgusting and nauseating and have given them jocular names

* Many states in North East - with the exception of Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh and nowadays hopefully Assam - hate mainland India

* Mainland Indians don't necessarily hate North East Indians but have a strong dislike and aversion to them and discriminate against them due to their Mongoloid features

* Goans are a special kind of idiots. They brawl with domestic tourists from all over the country but suck up to Whites and allow their nudity.

* Silver lining is nobody hates Sikhs and Sikhs hate nobody. Khalistan is history.

India also has two or three powerful enemies with whom it shares very long borders. But this situation is not an unusual case. In fact everywhere in the world balkanization process is ignited by foreign hand only.

One factor that works against the balkanization of India is the docility of South Indians. For balkanization, probably the entire populace should be of rebellious and perhaps a bit boisterous nature.

Why I don't care about India's fate?

Earlier I would root for singlehanded Indian victory over multiple external and internal enemies like Pakistan, China, USA, naxalites, Bangladesh etc. I would wonder if India is good enough to win and follow this "game". It would take exceptional intellect to prevent a tinderbox like India from inflaming. If one is able to hold India together like the British did, it would be nothing short of a work of a genius.

But I have had a bad experience with a genius. I was disappointed. Ever since, I have a dislike for geniuses. An explanatory paragraph:

I hate geniuses. I hate scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious economists and other technical prodigies. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't) I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

It's very painful. If the best of humankind are boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

Since then, I am past caring. I stopped bothering about whether the establishment pulls the challenging feat off or whether they fail. The moment I think of the actuality of geniuses I instantly lose interest in the games of international politics.

- PRTP GWD

@Cliftonite

- PRTP GWD

 

[Cliftonite]

@Cliftonite

- PRTP GWD

I think the popcorn isn't ready to pop yet. The hate for Muslims and Pakistan is still too strong to act as a binding agent for Indians of different ethnicities.