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Another great Turk commander- Baibars, the father of conquest.

Defeated the Mongols in battle of Ain Jalut which is considered a turning point in history.

He inflicted a defeat on the Seventh crusade under Louis IX

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He was still a commander under Sultan Qutuz at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260 when he decisively defeated the Mongols. After the battle, Sultan Qutuz (aka Koetoez) was assassinated while on a hunting expedition. It was said that Baibars was involved in the assassination because he expected to be rewarded with the governorship of Aleppo for his military success; but Qutuz, fearing his ambition, refused to give him the post, disappointing him.[15] Baibars succeeded Qutuz as Sultan of Egypt.

Once Baibars had ascended to the Sultanate, his authority was soon confirmed without any serious resistance, except fromSinjar al-Halabi, another Mamluk amir who was popular and powerful enough to claim Damascus. Also, the threat from the Mongols was still serious enough to be considered as a threat to Baibars' authority. However, Baibars first chose to deal with Sinjar, and marched on Damascus. At the same time the princes of Hama andHoms proved able to defeat the Mongols in the First Battle of Homs, which lifted the Mongol threat for a while. On 17 January 1261, Baibars' forces were able to rout the troops of Sinjar outside Damascus, and pursued the attack to the city, where the citizens were loyal to Sinjar and resisted Baibars, although their resistance was soon crushed.

After suppressing the revolt of Sinjar, Baibars then managed to deal with the Ayyubids, while quietly eliminating the prince of Kerak. Ayyubids such as Al-Ashraf Musa, Emir of Homs and the Ayyubid Emir Dynasty of Hama (presumably Al-Afdal Muhammad), who had earlier staved off the Mongol threat, were permitted to continue their rule in exchange for their recognizing Baibars' authority as Sultan[17]

The next step which Baibars needed after this was religious authority, so he sought legitimation from the Caliph in Baghdad, which was sacked by Ilkhanate Mongol army earlier[clarification needed]. So by becoming a protegee of the Caliph, he had all he needed[17]


In 1271, after Baibars captured the smaller castles in the area, including Chastel Blanc, he besieged Krak des Chevaliers castle, held by the Hospitallers, on 30 March. Peasants who lived in the area had fled to the castle for safety and were kept in the outer ward. As soon as Baibars arrived he began erecting mangonels, powerful siege weapons which he would turn on the castle. According to Ibn Shaddad, two days later the first line of defences was captured by the besiegers; he was probably referring to a walled suburb outside the castle's entrance.[29] After a lull of ten days, the besiegers conveyed a letter to the garrison, supposedly from the Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller in Tripoli, which granted permission for them to surrender. The garrison capitulated and the Sultan spared their lives.[29] The new owners of the castle undertook repairs, focused mainly on the outer ward.[30] The Hospitaller chapel was converted to a mosque and two mihrabs were added to the interior.[31]

Baibars then turned his attention to Tripoli, but he interrupted his siege there to call a truce in May 1271. The fall of Antioch had led to the brief Ninth Crusade, led byPrince Edward of England, who arrived in Acre in May 1271 and attempted to ally himself with the Mongols against Baibars. So Baibars declared a truce with Tripoli, as well as with Edward, who was never able to capture any territory from Baibars anyway. According to some reports, Baibars tried to have Edward assassinated with poison, but Edward survived the attempt and returned home in 1272.
 
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A better commander than saladin,probably best muslim military commander along with khalid and timur.But baybars was not turkish,he was georgian and blonde(which is why he is called the 'lion of egypt') -but trained as a mameluk(ghulam) under the middle eastern seljuk system.
 
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He was still a commander under Sultan Qutuz at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260 when he decisively defeated the Mongols. After the battle, Sultan Qutuz (aka Koetoez) was assassinated while on a hunting expedition. It was said that Baibars was involved in the assassination because he expected to be rewarded with the governorship of Aleppo for his military success; but Qutuz, fearing his ambition, refused to give him the post, disappointing him.[15] Baibars succeeded Qutuz as Sultan of Egypt.

Once Baibars had ascended to the Sultanate, his authority was soon confirmed without any serious resistance, except fromSinjar al-Halabi, another Mamluk amir who was popular and powerful enough to claim Damascus. Also, the threat from the Mongols was still serious enough to be considered as a threat to Baibars' authority. However, Baibars first chose to deal with Sinjar, and marched on Damascus. At the same time the princes of Hama andHoms proved able to defeat the Mongols in the First Battle of Homs, which lifted the Mongol threat for a while. On 17 January 1261, Baibars' forces were able to rout the troops of Sinjar outside Damascus, and pursued the attack to the city, where the citizens were loyal to Sinjar and resisted Baibars, although their resistance was soon crushed.

After suppressing the revolt of Sinjar, Baibars then managed to deal with the Ayyubids, while quietly eliminating the prince of Kerak. Ayyubids such as Al-Ashraf Musa, Emir of Homs and the Ayyubid Emir Dynasty of Hama (presumably Al-Afdal Muhammad), who had earlier staved off the Mongol threat, were permitted to continue their rule in exchange for their recognizing Baibars' authority as Sultan[17]

The next step which Baibars needed after this was religious authority, so he sought legitimation from the Caliph in Baghdad, which was sacked by Ilkhanate Mongol army earlier[clarification needed]. So by becoming a protegee of the Caliph, he had all he needed[17]


In 1271, after Baibars captured the smaller castles in the area, including Chastel Blanc, he besieged Krak des Chevaliers castle, held by the Hospitallers, on 30 March. Peasants who lived in the area had fled to the castle for safety and were kept in the outer ward. As soon as Baibars arrived he began erecting mangonels, powerful siege weapons which he would turn on the castle. According to Ibn Shaddad, two days later the first line of defences was captured by the besiegers; he was probably referring to a walled suburb outside the castle's entrance.[29] After a lull of ten days, the besiegers conveyed a letter to the garrison, supposedly from the Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller in Tripoli, which granted permission for them to surrender. The garrison capitulated and the Sultan spared their lives.[29] The new owners of the castle undertook repairs, focused mainly on the outer ward.[30] The Hospitaller chapel was converted to a mosque and two mihrabs were added to the interior.[31]

Baibars then turned his attention to Tripoli, but he interrupted his siege there to call a truce in May 1271. The fall of Antioch had led to the brief Ninth Crusade, led byPrince Edward of England, who arrived in Acre in May 1271 and attempted to ally himself with the Mongols against Baibars. So Baibars declared a truce with Tripoli, as well as with Edward, who was never able to capture any territory from Baibars anyway. According to some reports, Baibars tried to have Edward assassinated with poison, but Edward survived the attempt and returned home in 1272.
Mashallah,

A better commander than saladin,probably best muslim military commander along with khalid and timur.But baybars was not turkish,he was georgian and blonde(which is why he is called the 'lion of egypt') -but trained as a mameluk(ghulam) under the middle eastern seljuk system.
Khalid was the best commander, who else could turn village-states into an Empire that defeated the combined strength of the two most advanced and strongest Empires.
 
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A better commander than saladin,probably best muslim military commander along with khalid and timur.But baybars was not turkish,he was georgian and blonde(which is why he is called the 'lion of egypt') -but trained as a mameluk(ghulam) under the middle eastern seljuk system.

Hmm. All professors who studied and researched for years say he is, or not even say he is. I haven't seen one person dispute this lol. He was a kuman. BTW there is a lot of blondes among different turkic tribes. You need to brush up in your history pal.


He's name is even proof.

ATemplar knight who fought in the Seventh Crusade lamented:

Rage and sorrow are seated in my heart...so firmly that I scarce dare to stay alive. It seems that God wishes to support the Turks to our loss...ah, lord God...alas, the realm of the East has lost so much that it will never be able to rise up again. They will make a Mosque of Holy Mary's convent, and since the theft pleases her Son, who should weep at this, we are forced to comply as well...Anyone who wishes to fight the Turks is mad, for Jesus Christ does not fight them any more. They have conquered, they will conquer. For every day they drive us down, knowing that God, who was awake, sleeps now, and Muhammad waxes powerful.
 
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Baibars was better commander than Salahuddin. It is the Europeans that promote Sultan Salahuddin underplaying the real hero of reconquest of Palestine, Sultan Baibars.
 
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Baibars was better commander than Salahuddin. It is the Europeans that promote Sultan Salahuddin underplaying the real hero of reconquest of Palestine, Sultan Baibars.
Yes, Saladdin is prompted by Europeans. Dante in one his famous works showed Saladdin in heavens wheras our Prophet (PBUH) in hell (nauzibillah).
 
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Yes, Saladdin is prompted by Europeans. Dante in one his famous works showed Saladdin in heavens wheras our Prophet (PBUH) in hell (nauzibillah).

That is because of a treaty between Salahuddin and Richard of England.
 
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Hmm. All professors who studied and researched for years say he is, or not even say he is. I haven't seen one person dispute this lol. He was a kuman. BTW there is a lot of blondes among different turkic tribes. You need to brush up in your history pal.


He's name is even proof.

Cumans are mostly a blend of slavic and turkic,settled in volga area.The word turkish is a very wide term as they and the turkish mamluk/ghulam military system spread far and wide in the middle ages from india to egypt to the ottoman empire.
Unfortunately despite being such a great commander baibars doesn't get good press.I finally saw there is now a middle eastern serial on him.Probably earlier they didn't want to praise him too much because he was foreigner and non-arab.
 
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Baibars was better commander than Salahuddin. It is the Europeans that promote Sultan Salahuddin underplaying the real hero of reconquest of Palestine, Sultan Baibars.

You did know anything about Salahuddin, otherwise you didn't comment like that. In today's world you can says that NATO against one tiny Egypt. Tell me where Egypt will stand in front of whole NATO? Read this book translate from the book written by Salahuddin general and those are Salahuddin intelligent reports officially recorded during Salahuddin time.

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In the history of Muslims there is no match of two kings and no body come close to them.

  1. Sultan Mohammad Fatih
  2. Salahuddin Ayubi
 
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You did know anything about Salahuddin,
  1. Sultan Mohammad Fatih
  2. Salahuddin Ayubi

I said Baibars was better army commander than Salahuddin. You are misunderstanding it.

That is because of a treaty between Salahuddin and Richard of England.

That treaty gave rights to Christian pilgrims to visit Jerusalem and protection of Christian holy sites. That right was never given to the Muslims during the Crusader occupation. That right was actually was continuation Prophet Muhammad's policy not an invention of Salahuddin.
 
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I said Baibars was better army commander than Salahuddin. You are misunderstanding it.



That treaty gave rights to Christian pilgrims to visit Jerusalem and protection of Christian holy sites. That right was never given to the Muslims during the Crusader occupation. That right was actually was continuation Prophet Muhammad's policy not an invention of Salahuddin.

That is obvious :-)
 
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It is unfair to compare legendary Military commanders on the basis of nationality or their acts. We should discuss their history or victories on individual basis. Matter of fact if Salauddin was given some value by Christians it was only due to his strict adherence to Islamic rules of engagement high moral values.

However on sad side we may now see great Muslim Commanders who along their non Muslim allies shedding blood of innocent Syrian Muslims. Sorry to say our brotherly Muslim countries like Iran, Syrian Govt, Turkey and KSA are alike.

To me Ashoka was also a great Military leader.
 
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I said Baibars was better army commander than Salahuddin. You are misunderstanding it.



That treaty gave rights to Christian pilgrims to visit Jerusalem and protection of Christian holy sites. That right was never given to the Muslims during the Crusader occupation. That right was actually was continuation Prophet Muhammad's policy not an invention of Salahuddin.

Salahuddin Ayubi military campaigns are outstanding and near to impossible. He is the one of the best commander world have ever produce. His military strategies against the whole European best brain make him unique.

Baibars got support of Khalifa whereas Salahuddin didn't have that luxury
 
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