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Forces Goal 2040. :lol:



My vote is for Eurofighter simply because a mature fourth-generation aircraft is better than an untested fifth-generation aircraft. The other issue with J-35 is that the characteristics associated with a fifth-generation platform are missing in J-35, like supercruise, and the local Chinese jet engines are not very mature. J-35 is China's first step towards a fifth-generation platform. We will have to wait to see if this attempt succeeds.


You are also correct.....


What is also true is that BD really do need to induct something to counter the burmese immediately whilst in the long run india remains our primary enemy.

The combination of choices available to us is not great.

I think with all things considered BD just need to accept the risk and go chinese and go for a JV with the turks....

Alternatively go with EFT/F16/Gripen and then join JV with the turks...

BAF has missed too many opportunities.... the lost ground is gone.... we are in the beginning of a new era and we should be bold enough to try to leap forward.
 
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You are also correct.....


What is also true is that BD really do need to induct something to counter the burmese immediately whilst in the long run india remains our primary enemy.

The combination of choices available to us is not great.

I think with all things considered BD just need to accept the risk and go chinese and go for a JV with the turks....

Alternatively go with EFT/F16/Gripen and then join JV with the turks...

BAF has missed too many opportunities.... the lost ground is gone.... we are in the beginning of a new era and we should be bold enough to try to leap forward.

All things are pointing in that direction, with hasinas recent statement being the cherry.

Bangladesh has got its 1st aviation university, I think they purchased a wind tunnel.

In another thread recently posted today or yesterday the turks are ready to give us tot and Co-produce. So all things are pointing in that direction buddy.
 
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All things are pointing in that direction, with hasinas recent statement being the cherry.

Bangladesh has got its 1st aviation university, I think they purchased a wind tunnel.

In another thread recently posted today or yesterday the turks are ready to give us tot and Co-produce. So all things are pointing in that direction buddy.


Lets hope so. TFX is 15 years at least to realisation. BD needs to take the plunge. We can not do this without without partner Turkey is the most trusted partner we could possibly have.
 
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@Michael Corleone @UKBengali @The Ronin @mb444 @Atlas@Bilal9 @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

How feasible do you guys think the following long term solution would be to operate Western aircraft yet counter the risk of American sanctions on spares if things heat up against India:

Gripens with:
  • MRO and assembly facilities
  • Spare CKD/SKD kits and engines for a dozen or two additional units bought in advance and mothballed for emergency war time assembly.
  • Hundreds of missiles in storage.

I think SAAB would be open to the idea if we are willing to commit.

Caveats:
  • This will take time to implement as BAC is at infancy.
  • BAF would have to grow a spine
  • BAU and BAC would effectively be taken over by SAAB in such a scenario.
If the above solution works there is no harm in BAF going full Western:

1-2 sqd EFT + 3-4 sqd Gripens
Or
4-6 sqd Gripens

Too early to talk about single engine fighter i think as we haven't finalized the twin-engine MRCA yet. Well, western aircraft will sure give us an edge against any Russian-Chinese aircraft operational in neighboring countries, opportunities to train with more foreign air forces to gain better and more experiences and path for buying next generation aircraft.

But i won't choose another western aircraft if we buy EFT, specially i would stay away from the ones with American string attached. Too costly to have two western platforms. Also BAF shouldn't be fully westernized as it's certainly not a good idea to put all eggs in one basket. I thought we learned that from Rohingya issue. Though i doubt GoB learned anything at all.

Unfortunately i still can't dismiss your suggestion about Gripen as we don't know how good the J-10 is and about it's engine issue. Don't know what BAF found during inspection in 2018 but i hope J-10C will come without any issue with local MRO option. That will help BAF to maintain a balanced fleet consisting of Western and Chinese fighter.

If that doesn't happen then Gripen is only good option left aside from F-16. Asking for 3-4 squadron is also too much as some people say here BAF lack vision. Honestly i don't GoB has any vision for BAF or having credible air defense like it has for the navy at the moment. BTW am i seeing this right or did Thailand, Brazil really paid $151-83 million for each of their Gripen? 🧐

So it is a twin engine jet or a single engine ? Anybody has some inside info ?

Twin engine most likely as per 2017's tender requirement and other sources hint.

Stating mere facts has nothing to do with being delusion.Last time i checked your mentioned website not even one reg member was online,pretty much speaks volume about site.
Let's leave it for another time.

As i expected you are trying avoid and not accepting that you were wrong. Facts? What facts? Those were BS that i just proved wrong. Didn't i write in my previous post that we are more active in facebook that forums? Or did you just loose the ability to read apart from being delusional? If saying all that BS makes you think your not in delusion, then you are more delusional than i thought. We take refugee?! REFUGEE?! If it wasn't for replying the BS some of you often say here about my country, i wouldn't have joined this forum at all. I don't even do that anymore cause it's a futile effort. It doesn't matter at all.

What frustration and anger? Apart from 1971 there's nothing to be angry or frustrated about Pakistan. Even that part is closed after you apologized. Most of doesn't even talk about it here most of the times thanks to some troll and idiots. We are already economically, socially doing better than you. So nothing to be frustrated about.

If somebody is venting anger and frustration in this forum then that would be some you (mostly Pakistani and Indians troll and ignorant idiots) who do that more than us. You know what venting up anger and frustration looks like? Calling a country India satellite state, slave, BS about it's PM, creating thread to prove you didn't rape 200000 Bangladeshi women to make you feel good etc. You derail every thread with some BS, even this thread got derailed and argument started because of one stupid Pakistani dreaming about Bangladeshi forming coalition with India against Pakistan in war.

No, let's leave nothing for another time as there's nothing to leave for next time. You also sends hordes of women to Arab sheikhs and we have a forum. Whether member are active or not that wasn't the issue at all. Case closed. Is having a forum makes a country suppa paowa now? 😂

Looks like i wrote too much and said what i haven't said before. Well, whatever.

I started hearing about new fighter planes for BAF when I was still single. I got married last year. This year I welcomed a baby boy. I have gotten married, become a father but BAF is still waiting on new fighter planes which shows no sign of arriving.

Military procurement isn't involved with people's personal life now, is it? Anyone can get married and have child within four years. People should check how much times it take for other countries. Lets not hope BAF buys MRCA when you have grandchild.

@Sine Nomine apply burnol to the effected area

Now they removed my post silently. 😂 They don't do that when things are in their favor, do they? 😂
 
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Too early to talk about single engine fighter i think as we haven't finalized the twin-engine MRCA yet. Well, western aircraft will sure give us an edge against any Russian-Chinese aircraft operational in neighboring countries, opportunities to train with more foreign air forces to gain better and more experiences and path for buying next generation aircraft.

But i won't choose another western aircraft if we buy EFT, specially i would stay away from the ones with American string attached. Too costly to have two western platforms. Also BAF shouldn't be fully westernized as it's certainly not a good idea to put all eggs in one basket. I thought we learned that from Rohingya issue. Though i doubt GoB learned anything at all.

Unfortunately i still can't dismiss your suggestion about Gripen as we don't know how good the J-10 is and about it's engine issue. Don't know what BAF found during inspection in 2018 but i hope J-10C will come without any issue with local MRO option. That will help BAF to maintain a balanced fleet consisting of Western and Chinese fighter.

If that doesn't happen then Gripen is only good option left aside from F-16. Asking for 3-4 squadron is also too much as some people say here BAF lack vision. Honestly i don't GoB has any vision for BAF or having credible air defense like it has for the navy at the moment. BTW am i seeing this right or did Thailand, Brazil really paid $151-83 million for each of their Gripen? 🧐



Twin engine most likely as per 2017's tender requirement and other sources hint.




As i expected you are trying avoid and not accepting that you were wrong. Facts? What facts? Those were BS that i just proved wrong. Didn't i write in my previous post that we are more active in facebook that forums? Or did you just loose the ability to read apart from being delusional? If saying all that BS makes you think your not in delusion, then you are more delusional than i thought. We take refugee?! REFUGEE?! If it wasn't for replying the BS some of you often say here about my country, i wouldn't have joined this forum at all. I don't even do that anymore cause it's a futile effort. It doesn't matter at all.

If somebody is venting anger and frustration in this forum then that would be some you (mostly Pakistani and Indians troll and ignorant idiots) who do that more than us. What frustration and anger? Apart from 1971 there's nothing to be angry or frustrated about Pakistan. Even that part is closed after you apologized. Most of doesn't even talk about it here most of the times thanks to some troll and idiots. We are already economically, socially doing better than you. So nothing to be frustrated about.

You know what venting up anger and frustration looks like? Calling a country India satellite state, slave, BS about it's PM, creating thread to prove you didn't rape 200000 Bangladeshi women to make you feel good etc. You derail every thread with some BS, even this thread got derailed and argument started because of one stupid Pakistani dreaming about Bangladeshi forming coalition with India against Pakistan in war.

No, let's leave nothing for another time as there's nothing to leave for next time. You also sends hordes of women to Arab sheikhs and we have a forum. Whether member are active or not that wasn't the issue at all. Case closed. Is having a forum makes a country suppa paowa now? 😂

Looks like i wrote too much and said what i haven't said before. Well, whatever.



Military procurement isn't involved with people's personal life now, is it? Anyone can get married and have child within four years. People should check how much times it take for other countries. Lets not hope BAF buys MRCA when you have grandchild.



Now they remove my post silently. 😂 They don't do that when things are in their favor, do they? 😂
They can’t find a reason to ban you so they’ll silently delete it. 😂😂😂
We have evolved. Just like the corona
 
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Too early to talk about single engine fighter i think as we haven't finalized the twin-engine MRCA yet. Well, western aircraft will sure give us an edge against any Russian-Chinese aircraft operational in neighboring countries, opportunities to train with more foreign air forces to gain better and more experiences and path for buying next generation aircraft.

But i won't choose another western aircraft if we buy EFT, specially i would stay away from the ones with American string attached. Too costly to have two western platforms. Also BAF shouldn't be fully westernized as it's certainly not a good idea to put all eggs in one basket. I thought we learned that from Rohingya issue. Though i doubt GoB learned anything at all.

Unfortunately i still can't dismiss your suggestion about Gripen as we don't know how good the J-10 is and about it's engine issue. Don't know what BAF found during inspection in 2018 but i hope J-10C will come without any issue with local MRO option. That will help BAF to maintain a balanced fleet consisting of Western and Chinese fighter.

If that doesn't happen then Gripen is only good option left aside from F-16. Asking for 3-4 squadron is also too much as some people say here BAF lack vision. Honestly i don't GoB has any vision for BAF or having credible air defense like it has for the navy at the moment. BTW am i seeing this right or did Thailand, Brazil really paid $151-83 million for each of their Gripen? 🧐



Twin engine most likely as per 2017's tender requirement and other sources hint.




As i expected you are trying avoid and not accepting that you were wrong. Facts? What facts? Those were BS that i just proved wrong. Didn't i write in my previous post that we are more active in facebook that forums? Or did you just loose the ability to read apart from being delusional? If saying all that BS makes you think your not in delusion, then you are more delusional than i thought. We take refugee?! REFUGEE?! If it wasn't for replying the BS some of you often say here about my country, i wouldn't have joined this forum at all. I don't even do that anymore cause it's a futile effort. It doesn't matter at all.

What frustration and anger? Apart from 1971 there's nothing to be angry or frustrated about Pakistan. Even that part is closed after you apologized. Most of doesn't even talk about it here most of the times thanks to some troll and idiots. We are already economically, socially doing better than you. So nothing to be frustrated about.

If somebody is venting anger and frustration in this forum then that would be some you (mostly Pakistani and Indians troll and ignorant idiots) who do that more than us. You know what venting up anger and frustration looks like? Calling a country India satellite state, slave, BS about it's PM, creating thread to prove you didn't rape 200000 Bangladeshi women to make you feel good etc. You derail every thread with some BS, even this thread got derailed and argument started because of one stupid Pakistani dreaming about Bangladeshi forming coalition with India against Pakistan in war.

No, let's leave nothing for another time as there's nothing to leave for next time. You also sends hordes of women to Arab sheikhs and we have a forum. Whether member are active or not that wasn't the issue at all. Case closed. Is having a forum makes a country suppa paowa now? 😂

Looks like i wrote too much and said what i haven't said before. Well, whatever.



Military procurement isn't involved with people's personal life now, is it? Anyone can get married and have child within four years. People should check how much times it take for other countries. Lets not hope BAF buys MRCA when you have grandchild.



Now they removed my post silently. 😂 They don't do that when things are in their favor, do they? 😂
Tell me is it us or bengaldeshis that are fixated on 1971??

Your PM on daily basis starts her day with pakistan bashing and ends it with hanging peopke who are remotely related to pakistan bengladesh conflict

She says yes to evry indian command..which is not wrong, it is in bengaldesh interest to have good relationship with india.

i agree that bengaldesh is not a indian satellite state and pakistanis should not be fixated with it..

AND WE ARE NOT..but we will also striaght the record if a keyboard warrior brings it..if bengaldesh are going to claim million rapes..we are going to state that it was impossible for 50,000 men to do that..(and also fight a war)...

With respect to HDI..congratulations on inching ahead of pakistan/key term inching ahead..i think bengaldesh has done good and we are happy about it..i also think the future is even brighter that makes us more then happy and proves jinnah fight that he did for & WITH the bengalis ..sikhs are realizing that now too...


The point ...its not us, its u guys who are fixated... starting from your PM

We ended hostilities when we did this...
This was the end of the story from our side..we had been mprovement to degree that we gave u guys jets and weapons..but then a poltical rivarly brought and dragged pakistan into it
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Tell me is it us or bengaldeshis that are fixated on 1971??

This country was born after fighting you nine months so they will talk about you certain times. Every country does that about their independence day at some times every year. For us it's March and December. The matter will also come forward in India-Bangladesh bilateral talks as it was the foundation of two countries relationship. Same in talks with Pakistan i believe. There's nothing anyone can do about that. And Hasina last talked about it with Modi and you ambassador this month i think. So it's not true that she talks about it one daily basis. You are bit exaggerating.

If you really moved on why some of your Pakistani fellows here derails thread based on that and India? Their troll, banter, superiority complex, every types of BS revolves around 71 and India here. Even another two new threads turned into garbage thanks to your fellows. You are welcome to keep the count here and prove me wrong about who blabbers unnecessarily more.

P.S - I will archive a post in 1971 sticky thread. Don't chop my head for that. 😅
 
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This country was born after fighting you nine months so they will talk about you certain times. Every country does that about their independence day at some times every year. For us it's March and December. The matter will also come forward in India-Bangladesh bilateral talks as it was the foundation of two countries relationship. Same in talks with Pakistan i believe. There's nothing anyone can do about that. And Hasina last talked about it with Modi and you ambassador this month i think. So it's not true that she talks about it one daily basis. You are bit exaggerating.

If you really moved on why some of your Pakistani fellows here derails thread based on that and India? Their troll, banter, superiority complex, every types of BS revolves around 71 and India here. Even another two new threads turned into garbage thanks to your fellows. You are welcome to keep the count here and prove me wrong about who blabbers unnecessarily more.
Well she does daily
I dont see us cursing the british all the time
Do we?

Look bengaldesh wants relationship with pakistan you are welcome just like we welcome mujeeb ur rehman in 1973..if you dont want fine..noone cares here...
 
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Well she does daily
I dont see us cursing the british all the time
Do we?

Look bengaldesh wants relationship with pakistan you are welcome just like we welcome mujeeb ur rehman in 1973..if you dont want fine..noone cares here...

This is off topic but do not take what Hasina says seriously and her speeches do not represent what the common BD’shi feels about Pakistan.
She is 73 now and probably won’t be in power in 5 years time.

BD and Pakistan have a good future if we cooperate as both are forecast to grow really well economically over the next 10-15 years.

Pakistan will do well due to it’s new found stability and trade links with China and BD due to the decades of investments it has made in education, healthcare, infrastructure and growing it’s textiles, pharmaceutical,shipbuilding, IT and electronics industries.

BD should be happy when Pakistan does well and vice-versa, as both countries share the same interest in the region and that is to keep India from being too overbearing.
 
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Well she does daily

As i said you are welcome to keep count and prove me wrong.

I dont see us cursing the british all the time
Do we?

Well, i have no idea how much damage British did to current Pakistan state in their rule. Though BAL's effort narrowed everything to Mujib and 71 now there are chapters, literature and play about famine, Titumir, Indigo revolt, Sepoy Mutiny, Bengali armed and peaceful movement against British in education and culture. I assume you have that too. India is more active about it than two of us i think as they are the largest part left of British India. Specially about the Kohinoor and Jallianwala Bagh massacre i think.

There's a saying in Bengali. "Those who lose something, feel the pain". British did to entire India/Bharat entity which broke into three parts. What Pakistan did was entirely on the current entity of Bangladesh back then confined in the same old map which led to the creation of BD.

Look bengaldesh wants relationship with pakistan you are welcome just like we welcome mujeeb ur rehman in 1973..if you dont want fine..noone cares here...

Same feeling i guess.
 
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Tell me is it us or bengaldeshis that are fixated on 1971??

Your PM on daily basis starts her day with pakistan bashing and ends it with hanging peopke who are remotely related to pakistan bengladesh conflict

She says yes to evry indian command..which is not wrong, it is in bengaldesh interest to have good relationship with india.

i agree that bengaldesh is not a indian satellite state and pakistanis should not be fixated with it..

AND WE ARE NOT..but we will also striaght the record if a keyboard warrior brings it..if bengaldesh are going to claim million rapes..we are going to state that it was impossible for 50,000 men to do that..(and also fight a war)...

With respect to HDI..congratulations on inching ahead of pakistan/key term inching ahead..i think bengaldesh has done good and we are happy about it..i also think the future is even brighter that makes us more then happy and proves jinnah fight that he did for & WITH the bengalis ..sikhs are realizing that now too...


The point ...its not us, its u guys who are fixated... starting from your PM

We ended hostilities when we did this...
This was the end of the story from our side..we had been mprovement to degree that we gave u guys jets and weapons..but then a poltical rivarly brought and dragged pakistan into it
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Politicians will suck your d for their benefits
Both side are equally responsible for bringing up 71, war and anything related to shared history
All I see in the pics are people who died like dogs
 
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Politicians will suck your d for their benefits
Both side are equally responsible for bringing up 71, war and anything related to shared history
All I see in the pics are people who died like dogs

Off topic, but any word on when those Mig-29 will be back in BD from Belarus?
 
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For heaven sake buy something, I have been hearing this since the day I joined this forum about 14 years ago and if I remain alive next 14 years I wont see anything either.
 
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You have a bad habit of talking out of your rear end in every thread. If you are not informed about a certain topic, stop posting and start reading.
The MiG-21MFs were cutting edge back in 1972 which the Soviet Union handed to BAF brand new and FREE OF COST out of courtesy owing to strong relationship with Bangabandhu.

Even the IAF did not possess such modern jets back then.

With every passing comment, the more this person is trying to make himself look like a Pakistani, the more he looks like an Indian bhakt.

I remember and recount the history of BAF exactly like you said, unlike this clueless person. SMH. :rolleyes:
 
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