Babur Cruise Missile - Database

[The Deterrent]

About "C" the H.Khan of Pakdef was saying its not a container..Its actual Launcher and the sides were removed for display purposes,as the picture is from a Public display..

Yes, also in the 2007 Military Parade of 23rd March, when this Babur CM vehicle passed by, the person was who was describing the systems described it as a launcher.
My opinion is that it might be an initial concept, which was not materialized. Also, you cannot see any tubular and strengthened structure inside the quad-launcher. Furthermore, the TEL was also not very rugged looking, with any exhaust mechanism for the missile being launched.
IMO four missiles on one launch vehicle are way too much. One air-strike and we can lose a huge amount of valuable assets (if fully loaded).

 

[Safriz]

Yes, also in the 2007 Military Parade of 23rd March, when this Babur CM vehicle passed by, the person was who was describing the systems described it as a launcher.
My opinion is that it might be an initial concept, which was not materialized. Also, you cannot see any tubular and strengthened structure inside the quad-launcher. Furthermore, the TEL was also not very rugged looking, with any exhaust mechanism for the missile being launched.
IMO four missiles on one launch vehicle are way too much. One air-strike and we can lose a huge amount of valuable assets (if fully loaded).

Although Tomahawk had a lancher with 4 missiles...but yes countries can have different doctrines..

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Although Tomahawk had a lancher with 4 missiles...but yes countries can have different doctrines..

doesnt look like americans or britishers who are they

Although Tomahawk had a lancher with 4 missiles...but yes countries can have different doctrines..

doesnt look like americans or britishers who are they

Although Tomahawk had a lancher with 4 missiles...but yes countries can have different doctrines..

doesnt look like americans or britishers who are they

 

[The Deterrent]

Although Tomahawk had a lancher with 4 missiles...but yes countries can have different doctrines..

Agreed, I was referring to Pakistani doctrine. We don't have that much funds to manufacture a lot of units for conventional role.

 

[Safriz]

doesnt look like americans or britishers who are they



doesnt look like americans or britishers who are they



doesnt look like americans or britishers who are they

May be some arab soldier?
Many tomahawks were used in middle east during gulf wars.

 

[alexx12lucyy]

his is not for debate and arguments but an effort to concise information under one thread. any information related to missile,

 

[Safriz]

Must have been posted before..

[video]http://www.reuters.com/resources_v2/flash/video_embed.swf?videoId=237793694&edition=BETAUS'[/video]

 

[Safriz]

 

[Safriz]

Any news of submarine launch capability?

 

[Bratva]

Any news of submarine launch capability?

Slow progress in this regard due to funding cuts.

 

[The Deterrent]

Must have been posted before..

[video]http://www.reuters.com/resources_v2/flash/video_embed.swf?videoId=237793694&edition=BETAUS'[/video]

It is a new video I guess...

Babur Missile Launch Vehicle's missile hatches:

 

[Arsalan]

Yes, also in the 2007 Military Parade of 23rd March, when this Babur CM vehicle passed by, the person was who was describing the systems described it as a launcher.
My opinion is that it might be an initial concept, which was not materialized. Also, you cannot see any tubular and strengthened structure inside the quad-launcher. Furthermore, the TEL was also not very rugged looking, with any exhaust mechanism for the missile being launched.
IMO four missiles on one launch vehicle are way too much. One air-strike and we can lose a huge amount of valuable assets (if fully loaded).

PA is using Babur with three Tube Launch system. This motorized 8 x 8 transporter-erector-launcher (TEL) is reportedly a Chinese reverse-engineered variants of the Russian MAZ-543TLM vehicle. The TEL has a length of 13.36 meters, width of 3.02 meters, maximum road speed of 55kph, unrefueled range of 650km, and is powered by a 600hp Deutsch diesel engine with all four axles driven. There is a separate 10kW electrical generator to power the missile’s pre-launch operations and two hydraulic pumps to raise the missile canisters to their launch positions before launch. The TEL is supported by four hydraulic jacks during the missile launch.

This is just a transport vehicle, able to carry four missiles. This is not a launcher.

As per my information, it started as it is and this is what it was meant to be from very start, a carried vehicle for refurbishment in field. never intended to be a launch platform.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...abur-cruise-missile-database.html#post3023390

 

[The Deterrent]

^ Thats correct indeed.

 

[diabolic_67]

A lot of claim. But we cannot ask you to identify the source? Do you know the dia of Agosta 90B tubes? Do you know the dia of the above canister? I salute of patriotism, but lets keep discussions realistic and not based on rumor and bluff.

Please look into details of Submarine procurements from China, and the potential weapon fit. That may answer your curiosity.

Slow progress in this regard due to funding cuts.

 

[The Deterrent]

A lot of claim. But we cannot ask you to identify the source? Do you know the dia of Agosta 90B tubes? Do you know the dia of the above canister? I salute of patriotism, but lets keep discussions realistic and not based on rumor and bluff.

Please look into details of Submarine procurements from China, and the potential weapon fit. That may answer your curiosity.

The dia of Agosta torpedo tubes is 533mm, and the above mentioned canister has nothing to do with SLCM version of Babur. That canister was tested as a stand-alone launcher first and later developed into the multi-tube launcher. Babur SLCM will be fired via Agostas' torpedo tubes.