Babur Cruise Missile - Database

[Safriz]

Babur can be installed on surface ships without problem.
So chances are that Pakistan's second strike capability is distributed among ships and subs

 

[farhan_9909]

Canister launch of Babur

 

[Safriz]

Canister launch of Babur

What would be the diameter of this canister?
Can it be inserted into Augosta Torpedo tubes?

 

[Riz]

sub version of Babur has already been tested from agosta 90b with the range on 2500 NM almost 2 years ago, please dont aske me the source............

 

[Safriz]

sub version of Babur has already been tested from agosta 90b with the range on 2500 NM almost 2 years ago, please dont aske me the source............

My friend 2500 Nautical mile is 4600 kilometers.
Are you sure about the range you mention?

 

[The Deterrent]

What would be the diameter of this canister?
Can it be inserted into Augosta Torpedo tubes?

No! It is way too big! I think you meant "instead" of one or two torpedo tubes.
Besides it is just a test launch tube, developed as a part of development of GLCM's MLV launcher. For the SLCM, it is the capsule which is the complex part.

sub version of Babur has already been tested from agosta 90b with the range on 2500 NM almost 2 years ago, please dont aske me the source............

You are exaggerating the range, way too much. Most probably you put a extra zero.

 

[Riz]

My friend 2500 Nautical mile is 4600 kilometers.
Are you sure about the range you mention?

sorry dear it was not NM it was Km. around 1500 NM

 

[Penguin]

^^ Obviously such small numbers cannot contribute much to second strike capability

5 SSKs x 4 missiles = 20 nukes. Even if you keep 1 boat in port and 1 in transit, you still have 12 nukes at sea. That is somewhat equivalent to 1 Arihant with 12 x K15 SLBM (3 in each launch tube) or 3 Arhiants with 4 x K-4 SLBM each.

That would give me a headache... if I were on the receiving end.

Babur can be installed on surface ships without problem.
So chances are that Pakistan's second strike capability is distributed among ships and subs

Where on a Type 21 or F22P would you put Babur, considering their current armaments and the size (length, notably) of the Babur? And, as has been pointed out, what is the point of putting them on surface vessels, which are more vulnerable and less stealthy than subs and - in case of Pakistan - vastly outnumbered by the principal foe?

 

[The Deterrent]

Where on a Type 21 or F22P would you put Babur, considering their current armaments and the size (length, notably) of the Babur? And, as has been pointed out, what is the point of putting them on surface vessels, which are more vulnerable and less stealthy than subs and - in case of Pakistan - vastly outnumbered by the principal foe?

Exactly, PN does not possesses Destroyers aboard which we can have VLS based Babur LACMs. Entrusting the nuclear capability to any surface vessel wouldn't be something advisable.

 

[Safriz]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...-class-attack-submarine-information-pool.html

this thread has some interesting info..
Khalid class can fire Babur through Torpedo tubes.

 

[Safriz]

Bcak to Babur Cruise missile..

I want some Brain storming on something i noticed

Why Babur is shown in 3 or 4 different types of Vehicles?
What in your Opinion is the purpose of these...

A

B

c

D

E

 

[The Deterrent]

A

Inclined Rail-assisted test platform. Developed for initial testing, when the booster wasn't mature enough to rapidly turn the missile in the required direction.

C

Thought to be a transporter vehicle for missile reloads. May be a concept design for a vertical quadruple-missile launcher (dropped later on, if there was any).

D

Tube-launched vertical test platform. Later developed into the triple MLV.

B

E

Both B and E are same vehicles, i.e. the triple Missile Launch Vehicle (MLV), incorporating canisterized vertical launcher. Most probably the ultimate development of the GLCM launcher.

 

[Safriz]

'D' looks like vertical launch for navy.

 

[The Deterrent]

'D' looks like vertical launch for navy.

I don't think it was anything more than just a testing platform. Besides, it was utilized in one test only. If PN plans to induct Babur LACM on future vessels, a modified form of the MLV launcher (B & E) will be used most probably, as it is the evolution of the D platform.

 

[Safriz]

About "C" the H.Khan of Pakdef was saying its not a container..Its actual Launcher and the sides were removed for display purposes,as the picture is from a Public display..