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Babri Masjid case: Set 'Ram Lalla' free, says oldest litigant Hashim Ansari

Going by this logic if no pran pratisha is done then its not a religious place ...gosh...
You mean GuruDwara is also not a religious place and similarly the Naam Ghar used by Assamese is also not a religious place.
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that video describes the difference between what islams view is towards a mosque ? and what a hindus view is towards a temple .. and tat view isnt mine , it is a ruling by supreme court of india... stop quoting me back if u find even supreme court of india, looks thngs from religious glasses....
 
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Who told you that? You are a man. Why should I take your word? Who told you I want to be slave of God? Or slave of men? Who are God Men's?
So whose slave are you?

You only said that...

No, you are reversing your own argument. You did not say God is same for all Hindus. You said all are same to God. So we are talking if all human beings are same, then why are they born different?

They are born different to adapt to the geographical circumstances.
That doesnt make GOD different. RAM remains same GOD for a person born in Africa, Europe or India. He doesnt change...



Who is to say who is making a fool out of who? Why should business/governance/power be independent of religion? All religions have power. All religions have business. All religions need governance. Clashes are present even when there is no business/governance/or power with religion. Atheist countries fight and kill too.

Do you see Pakisthan, Afganisthan and some other middle east countries?
See it once again with a view point of bringing religion into governance, power, business etc...
You will get all your answers ...
 
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Sorry the version of Ramayan that i read didnt had GPS co-ordinates of the exact location of place where ram was born.

Also I find hard to understand, when we can have places like Ankorwat, Menakshi Temple, Khajurao temple or many other majestic temples, why the hell no King ever build a massive scale temple at that particular location. Given that RAM is biggest GOD figure in Hindu mythology and its so called exact birth location location of RAM

surely u didnt have a GPS during the tyms of ramayana.. so people refered to that place by building a temple... and u carefully drifted away frm answering the rest of my ques , imp one abt y cant muslims build a mosque anywhere else when even they accept that the masjid isnt the true identity of the land??

Why should they want to care about telegus??...MIM is basically a Muslim dominated party,so naturally they work for the Muslim interest...Moreover they are predominantly Urdu speakers,They have no linguistic/cultural relationship with telegus..

u knw the best thng abt parties like MIM , they create a space for parties like BJP to grow....
 
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??????? you mean local palm toddy outlets??..or the foreign liquor/beer outlets???..
In Kerala wholesale and retail sale of foreign liquor comes under BEVCO,a public sector company owned by Kerala government..They have nearly 330 outlets and are getting huge revenue from the high excise duty(thnx to unnatural drinking habit of Malayalis) ....Actually its the only profitable public sector company of Kerala government and major source of state revenue...
Yes local palm toddy outlets, the government banned them 10 years ago because many were adulterating them with fertilizers and pesticides to have a kick/high in their palm toddy outlets and many people were dying due to that.
Even though it was profitable and government got tax revenue from it , it was banned because there is no quality control to check the palm toddy is natural or laced with pesticides.
Its like if you won 10 palm trees you can apply to open a toddy shop.
Unlike foreign and normal Indian liquor companies which are licensed and carry quality checks and come in safe and labelled bottles and they dont result in blindness or death due to spurious liquor.
The CM was supported by a traditional palm toddy trapper community called the " gouds".Since they gave him votes they want those palm toddy shops opened so that they can do their business at homes.
KCR called Palm Toddy drinking Telangana culture and therefore should be introduced.:hitwall::hitwall:
This will lead to more deaths and casualties as there is no authority to check palm toddy everyday and every batch nor can anyone say they are dead because they drank toddy at a specific outlet as you can add fertilizers and insecticides as you want and there is no one to check.
He wants to keep Telangana people drunk so that they wont ask him any questions.
 
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surely u didnt have a GPS during the tyms of ramayana.. so people refered to that place by building a temple...

Wow...you dont have specific co-ordinates nor does you have a temple big enough to prove its historical mightyness, nor does any major historical documentation has any reference of a majestic temple at birth place of Ram. When over the centuries Hindus where building massive temples accross the region none of them ever thought of building a massive temple for RAM at birth location. And now of after 1000s of years we all of a sudden realize that that was exact place where RAM was born and now we need to build that massive temple.

and u carefully drifted away frm answering the rest of my ques , imp one abt y cant muslims build a mosque anywhere else when even they accept that the masjid isnt the true identity of the land??

Probably majority of muslims for sure would not mind to build a mosque at some other place if the hindsight and intentions where not religious hatredness, or tit for tat attitude to build a RAM Temple.
 
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Why should they want to care about telegus??...MIM is basically a Muslim dominated party,so naturally they work for the Muslim interest...Moreover they are predominantly Urdu speakers,They have no linguistic/cultural relationship with telegus..
They are a Razakar party,so when they claim to be secular party,people laugh their asses off.That is why they are considered as having no link with local people.
MIM wants to make a pan Islamic party, it will be considered good luck if they can move beyond the state,The last MH elections they managed to win 2 seats due to 4 way fight and infighting between BJP and SS.The very same secular parties like NCP and Congress were calling for MIM to banned as communal party as they are took their muslim votes in 2 seats it would be hard for MIM to do any good now on national level now that their own secular parties are labelling MIM as communal party.
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What good is religion.. and what a waste of time discussing religion when there are more tangible issues for humanity. Have a beer and chill. Its Saturday..
 
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Wow...you dont have specific co-ordinates nor does you have a temple big enough to prove its historical mightyness, nor does any major historical documentation has any reference of a majestic temple at birth place of Ram. When over the centuries Hindus where building massive temples accross the region none of them ever thought of building a massive temple for RAM at birth location. And now of after 1000s of years we all of a sudden realize that that was exact place where RAM was born and now we need to build that massive temple.



Probably majority of muslims for sure would not mind to build a mosque at some other place if the hindsight and intentions where not religious hatredness, or tit for tat attitude to build a RAM Temple.
You idiot,ASI(Archeological survey of INDIA) conducted tests at that site using GPR (ground penetrating radar) and did many excavations and found temple ruins beneath the mosque its all documented, the hindus have a strong case even the muslims acknowledge it and even the high court acknowledges it that is why they gave the verdict in favour or Hindus in 2009 and Muslims who were not happy with the verdict and were crying took the same case again to Supreme Court when the verdict was in favour of Hindus and Ram temple,The Supreme court will also give the same verdict based on proofs in court.
It is only you secular fools who think we went to a random mosque and razed it to claim ram was born there and built a mandir there.

The razing of mosque happened once the mutual talks to relocate mosque to another place and help rebuild it failed.
Why should we always sacrifice our religion,temple and ourselves for every community benefit and secularism when no other minority community is willing to do that with their religion.
Teach your peacenik talks to them not to us.That is our holy land of Lord Ram, we will build a grand temple there, come what may,try to stop us and heads will roll.
 
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You idiot,ASI(Archeological survey of INDIA) conducted tests at that site using GPR (ground penetrating radar) and did many excavations and found temple ruins beneath the mosque its all documented, the hindus have a strong case even the muslims acknowledge it , its only you secular fools who think we went to a random mosque and razed it to claim ram was born there and built a mandir there.

The razing of mosque happened once the mutual talks to relocate mosque to another place and help rebuild it failed.
Why should we always sacrifice our religion,temple and ourselves for every community benefit and secularism when no other minority community is willing to do that with their religion.
Teach your peacenik talks to them not to us.That is our holy land of Lord Ram, we will build a grand temple there, come what may,try to stop us and heads will roll.

Thanks for identifying me as Idiot, i am honored.
Does that ASI proved that RAM was born at that particular location and hence that temple was built.
If not please visit Mamta Banerjee, she will provide you bamboo treatment for free of cost...
 
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Wow...you dont have specific co-ordinates nor does you have a temple big enough to prove its historical mightyness, nor does any major historical documentation has any reference of a majestic temple at birth place of Ram. When over the centuries Hindus where building massive temples accross the region none of them ever thought of building a massive temple for RAM at birth location. And now of after 1000s of years we all of a sudden realize that that was exact place where RAM was born and now we need to build that massive temple.
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man stop quoting that there wasn't a big temple at the ram janmabhumi site, read this

from 2003 archeological survey report :


Findings of Ayodhya digging

Summary of the main findings may be stated as follows:

  • There is 'archeological evidence of a massive structure' below ground where the Babri mosque was destroyed in 1992.
  • The structure bears distinctive features associated with ancient temples of northern India.
  • There is evidence of building work there from as far as the 10th century.

The excavated area covered beneath the disputed land at least 14,000 sq.ft over which the report said, 'There is sufficient proof of existence of a massive and monumental structure having a minimum dimension of 50x30 meters in the north-south and east-west directions, respectively, just below the disputed structure.' The report said that excavation clearly showed distinctive features of a tenth century temple below the ruins of the Babri Mosque. It further mentions discovery of 50 pillar bases, decorated bricks bearing features of 10th century, deities of Hindu gods and goddesses, lotus motifs, and curved architectural pieces. The report, on the basis of these archeological findings came to the conclusion of existence of a Hindu temple at the site of dispute. The pillar bases exposed in the northern and southern gave some idea of the length of the massive wall of the earlier construction with which they were associated and might have been originally 60 m. Toward the east of the central point, a circular depression was noted signifying some important object was placed there. In the report it is stated that the main chamber of the disputed structure falls just over the central point of the length of the massive wall of the preceding period which could not be excavated because of the presence of the idol of the infant Rama in the makeshift structure. The salient and significant conclusion of the excavation seem to be that area below the disputed site remained a place for public use till the Mughal period when the disputed structure was built (Babri Mosque) which was confined to a limited area and the population settled around it as evidenced by the increase in contemporary archeological materials. This conclusion, the report said, is further attested by the conspicuous absence of habitational structure such as house complexes, soakage pits, and jars, ring wells, drains, hearths, kilns or furnaces.

-Among the structures listed in the report are several brick walls ‘in east-west orientation’, several ‘in north-south orientation’, ‘decorated coloured floor’, several ‘pillar bases’, and a ‘1.64-metre high decorated black stone pillar (broken) with yaksha figurines on four corners’ as well as "Sanskrit inscription of holy verses on stone"[6]

These decorated architectural pieces were anchored with precision at varied places in the walls. A tiny portion of a stone slab is sticking out at a place below 20 feet in one of the pits. The rest of the slab lies covered in the wall. The projecting portion bears a five-letter Devanagariinscription that turns out to be a Hindu name. The items found below 20 feet should be at least 1,500 years old. According to archaeologists about a foot of loam layer gathers on topsoil every hundred years.[citation needed] Primary clay was not found even up to a depth of 30 feet. It provides a clue to the existence of some structure at that place over the last 2,500 years.

Radar search[edit]
In the January 2003, Canadian geophysicist Claude Robillard performed a search with a ground-penetrating radar. The survey concluded the following:

"There is some structure under the mosque. The structures were ranging from 0.5 to 5.5 meters in depth that could be associated with ancient and contemporaneous structures such as pillars, foundation walls, slab flooring, extending over a large portion of the site".

Claude Robillard, the chief geophysicist stated the following:

"There are some anomalies found underneath the site relating to some archaeological features. You might associate them (the anomalies) with pillars, or floors, or concrete floors, wall foundation or something. These anomalies could be associated with archaeological features but until we dig, I can't say for sure what the construction is under the mosque."[8]


Archeological Findings of Ayodhya Ruins
Archaeology of Ayodhya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

- any new ideas to debate that there was no temple or the temple wasn't big ??
 
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Tfor identifying me as Idiot, i am honored.
Does that ASI proved that RAM was born at that particular location and hence that temple was built.
If not please visit Mamta Banerjee, she will provide you bamboo treatment for free of cost...
Read this brother...are we demanding mekka or madina , just a temple for oldest civilization god Sri Ram...
Archaeology of Ayodhya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Thanks for identifying me as Idiot, i am honored.
Does that ASI proved that RAM was born at that particular location and hence that temple was built.
If not please visit Mamta Banerjee, she will provide you bamboo treatment for free of cost...
Ask the ASI and the high court which declared "Ram lalla was born there" in its judgement.
Do you think us for uneducated idiots like other minority communities are we fought in court and won.
Mamata Banerjee's bamboo treatment will happen to her soon,Sharada scam,burdwan blasts the noose around here is tightening quick.
Once more i say, we will build our ram temple there and again build Temples in Kashi,Mathura mosques, do what you can to stop it, trying coming in our path we will decimate you and everyone near you.
 
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Its not denied that there exists a temple there, question is that is there any historical proof that this is the exact location where RAM was born and there was a massive temple at that place in history as evidence of same.

Even in that case then entire land should be given to ASI to excavate and find out the truth if thats the birth place of RAM. Why do you want build something on top of that and not bring back the original historic temple.

Ask the ASI and the high court which declared "Ram lalla was born there" in its judgement.
Do you think us for uneducated idiots like other minority communities are we fought in court and won.
Mamata Banerjee's bamboo treatment will happen to her soon,Sharada scam,burdwan blasts the noose around here is tightening quick.

Court said as per mythology RAM was born in Ayhodhya, It never confirmed if the current Ayhodhya is same city or the given temple in question is the exact birth location. For it Ayhodya is birth place of RAM, and no one denies that.

Once more i say, we will build our ram temple there and again build Temples in Kashi,Mathura mosques, do what you can to stop it, trying coming in our path we will decimate you and everyone near you.

I see the taliban mentality here and come what i dont want India to turn in to Afganishtan or pakisthan based on that mentality.
 
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Does that ASI proved that RAM was born at that particular location and hence that temple was built.
If not please visit Mamta Banerjee, she will provide you bamboo treatment for free of cost...
is there any proof that , RAM wasnt born in that place... stop worrying abt mamata tym is not far away frm shoving a hot iron rod up her a** , followed by the jamatis who are creating a havoc in WB:enjoy:
 
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is there any proof that , RAM wasnt born in that place... stop worrying abt mamata tym is not far away frm shoving a hot iron rod up her a** , followed by the jamatis who are creating a havoc in WB:enjoy:

A proof cannot exist if he was not born :D
You need proof only to prove he was born there :D
 
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