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Southern Karabakh is flat. Northern Karabakh is mountainous. When you take into account of topography, northern Karabakh has a lot more area than southern Karabakh. At least several times the area.

Well, I don't know how old you are, but you don't seem to own any land. mountainous and hilly areas can be measured. and are always measured. They measure the base of the hill/mountain. So yes mountains give you more land for your buck, but the cost associated with developing it are greater. ever tried selling a hilly block of land? and then tried selling a flat block you will see what is more expensive. cost of remediating a landslide?

and no, nepal is not bigger than russia just because it has mountains, don't be silly.

Russia saved Armenia. Russia created armenia. There would not be such a country were to not established by russia. But you are right, Armenia and Russia occupy an important part of Azerbaijan in a criminal enterprise. Hopefully Azerbaijan will recover that land with its allies one day.
Russia doesn't even have boots on Azeri regained territories where Turkish forces will be stationed soon not to forget. Whatever Azeribaijan has regained falls directly under Azeri jurisdiction.

Whatever Azeribaijan has gained is within Azeribaijan sovereignity which is approx. 70-75%- The remaining Armenian held territory is where the Russian has taken over. Another defeat for the Armenians.

Now they lost 75% to Azeribaijan and the remaining 25% to Russia.

Good to see you have come to face reality. Your numbers are getting more accurate.

Unfortunately, russian troops are in areas under Azeri control. There are pictures to prove it. They are staying there for a long time.

Russia has ruled out any turkish deployment near the russian front lines in the areas occupied by the russian/armenian forces. They have called such a potential move a "provocation".
 
There is no resources there for a hundred thousand people. A few thousand tops.

I don't agree. Lands dont have "carrying capacities". Just look at UEA, singapore. You can pipe water from anywhere, sewage, can be transported to anywhere (unless you want to let it drain down to khankendi - which is an option). Its just a matter of good urban planning. 2.5km x 2.5km plateau is a lot of urban space.

Cairo - 156,000 people per square kilometre.
London - 18,000 per sq kilometre
Seoul - 86,000 per sq kilometre.
Shanghai - 77,000 per sq kilometre.

And with good roads they can work in adjacent areas where new factories will surely open.

As you can see here, Russian occupying forces decide what troops can be stationed in Azerbaijan. Not Azerbaijan.
 
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This appears to be the area of control around Shusha. From wikipedia. it appears that Azeri control of NK from the south extends to shusha via a 4-5 km corridor, how long that corridor is and how defendable ti is if of great importance to Azeri ability to settle Shusha.

No-one will go there if it can be but off by the armenians and everyone gets massacred if/when the next war starts.
 
Azerbaijan wants to kick France out of the Minsk Group and it is hardly surprising why. Any semblance of neutrality from Paris has disappeared.

 
The ceasefire agreement calls for Armenia to leave the 7 regions, but, very big but, it seem Armenia, with Russian help is deciding what the borders of the 7 regions are. so the Gold mine that is mostly in Azerbaijan has been taken by Armenia and they don't seem to want to leave.


Interesting speech by Aliyev.

 
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The ceasefire agreement calls for Armenia to leave the 7 regions, but, very big but, it seem Armenia, with Russian help is deciding what the borders of the 7 regions are. so the Gold mine that is mostly in Azerbaijan has been taken by Armenia and they don't seem to want to leave.


Interesting speech by Aliyev.


Im sure there was signficant diplomatic pressure from Moscow on Aliyev to accept the agreement. It made no sense for the Azeris to stop when they had the momentum on their side.
 
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Two Azerbaijani 120mm Spear MK2 Mortar system (Israeli-made) mounted on SandCat, shelling Armenian positions in Karabakh.
 
Armenia has ceded the Lachin district minus Lachin city to Azerbiajan yesterday. However I cant see this peace deal holding out in the long run. From what I understand Azerbaijan has only retaken the parts of AZ under Armenien occupation that fell outside the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh (NK). NK will remain under Armenian control with the city of Lachin providing a corridor between Armenia and NK. The result is that a large part of Azeri territory is still under illegal occupation and with time domestic pressure on Baku will mount again to retake its territories.

An outcome IMO that would be long-lasting and secure peace in the region is for NK to come officially under the control of Baku but that it maintains significant autonomy or even self rule within AZ guaranteed by Russian and Turkish observers. This would allow Baku to claim it has retaken all of its territory and the Armenians although not happy with the deal will have the confirmation that their presence in the land wont be removed.

The current peace deal might hold out for a couple of decades but sooner or later conflict will emerge again.
 
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Armenia has ceded the Lachin district minus Lachin city to Azerbiajan yesterday. However I cant see this peace deal holding out in the long run. From what I understand Azerbaijan has only retaken the parts of AZ under Armenien occupation that fell outside the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh (NK). NK will remain under Armenian control with the city of Lachin providing a corridor between Armenia and NK. The result is that a large part of Azeri territory is still under illegal occupation and with time domestic pressure on Baku will mount again to retake its territories.

An outcome IMO that would be long-lasting and secure peace in the region is for NK to come officially under the control of Baku but that it maintains significant autonomy or even self rule within AZ guaranteed by Russian and Turkish observers. This would allow Baku to claim it has retaken all of its territory and the Armenians although not happy with the deal will have the confirmation that their presence in the land wont be removed.

The current peace deal might hold out for a couple of decades but sooner or later conflict will emerge again.
Russians granteed the return of azeris to NK
What would happen is some azeris will return who will be either killed or kicked out by armenia trigging a conflict
 
Armenia has ceded the Lachin district minus Lachin city to Azerbiajan yesterday. However I cant see this peace deal holding out in the long run. From what I understand Azerbaijan has only retaken the parts of AZ under Armenien occupation that fell outside the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh (NK). NK will remain under Armenian control with the city of Lachin providing a corridor between Armenia and NK. The result is that a large part of Azeri territory is still under illegal occupation and with time domestic pressure on Baku will mount again to retake its territories.

An outcome IMO that would be long-lasting and secure peace in the region is for NK to come officially under the control of Baku but that it maintains significant autonomy or even self rule within AZ guaranteed by Russian and Turkish observers. This would allow Baku to claim it has retaken all of its territory and the Armenians although not happy with the deal will have the confirmation that their presence in the land wont be removed.

The current peace deal might hold out for a couple of decades but sooner or later conflict will emerge again.

The Azeris got like good junk of Arsakh or Nagorno-Karabakh from the southern part plus the 7 regions in total around 75% which in my opinion is very good. They had zero percent weeks ago. They should first consolidate this 75% and repopulate before taking the remaining at later date
 
The best paradigm of ending a war with long-lasting peace results is to provide both the warring rivals something to celebrate in the end. This particular deal is not different in this regard. On one side Azerbaijan got the area It was desperate to get back for three decades. while Armenia has secured its population from a savage massacre in the war. Now if clashing countries take to the senses and rationality to prevail, they have a win-win situation for each of them and a chance to live peacefully. and if they succumbed to the war rhetoric then there would be more violence and loss of lives in the coming time. This peace deal provides them an opportunity to be a little moderate to live and let live. animosity does not die down in days, It requires deliberate efforts of forgiveness and tolerance, and will power to bury the hatchet. Time heals the wounds. Better no more infliction to the masses and the freedom from suffering of an endless fog of impending war.
 

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