And azeris would be able to return to NK
what else does baku wants?
Gets all its land..1/3 of NK and rest 2/3 NK its citizen can go return ..
Now if russia wants to sit there for ever..then good luck..but whos going to pay for the govt in NK
Surely not armenia..they would slit the throats of azeris in sleep(a citizen saying it on tv form NK)..its probably going to come from baku..
Its easy to read too much into the deal but we all know why russia did this..armenia was losing and there was risk of complete choas
yes there is the possibility that AZE civilians can return to Armenian controlled and Russian occupied NK.
we will have to wait to see the details of this and under what circumstances and conditions.
can they buy land, get their land back, can they come live there if they are from Baku originally. We will see if they get the Palestinian deal, (no movement) or the Bosnian deal (full freedom of movement and right of settlement of every citizen regardless of where they are from). Thus allowing AZE to settle a few hundred thousand azeiris there, and ending this occupation the peaceful way.
Has anyone clarified if the Armenian part of NK is to be regarded as "Azerbaijan territory that is under autonomous control of Armenians" (akin to the serbska republic in Northern Bosnia i believe), or is it actually owned by Yerevan? If ethnic Armenians keep autonomous status in officially recognized Azerbaijan territory, then it's a total victory for Baku. Let them have token autonomy, like those Serbs in Bosnia.
If however, it remains Yerevan controlled, then actually I'm confused because it is STILL occupied as per the UN and whole world's definition! This would be a bizarre status quo and almost seems unresolved.
it will be owned and occupied by Yerevan and protected by russia. Everyone else in the world will consider it a part of Azerbaijan.
BTW, serbs have real and effective and wide ranging autonomy in Bosnia. It’s getting smaller and smaller over the years as realities on the ground dictate that the national government needs to regulate things. But they have a huge input into the national government anyway.
they used to have their own army but they lost it because they sold missile tech to saddam Hussein.
they used to have their own currency but it was deemed economic suicide. So they agreed to a central bank and national currency.
they used to levy tarrifs on imported goods, but it was replaced by a national system and a national tax police.
They used to issue their own car registrations but it was taken away and given to national government because number plates which identified what city you are registered in was deemed to restrict freedom of movement.
they had police but now local police only deal with local crime and traffic laws. National police deal with organised crime and tax evasion etc.
They have their own department of agriculture but it’s proving to be difficult do deal with the EU, so they are being pressured to accept a national department of agriculture.
In all, they have lost something like 90 competencies and they are on track to lose more. So eventually their autonomy will become an empty shell.
azebaijan won’t get to play this game until there is a final peace settlement and they all agree that NK will be a part of Azerbaijan.
If they do that 100,000 Armenians have no chance against 10 million azeiris when it comes to sharing a country.
@thetutle
Don’t be discouraged with different opinions, and you have valid points as well. I feel the truth lies in between. I will write my analysis on Friday in this thread inshallah
Thank your brother, that’s a nice thing to say.
I can not be discouraged to write what is clearly a fact.
What that fact will mean in the real world is up for debate. And that’s what we are all doing.
It’s clearly not a bad deal. But it Carries massive risks and takes away from a total Azeiri victory which was very close.