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That’s a very good point. All these counties should be grateful. The cynic would say that we’re it not for the Turks showing up, these problems would not exist in the first place. That’s certainly the case with Bosnia. Bosnians would be Christians in a Christian Europe, our neighbours would be serbs also Christians with the same or similar language, and there would not be so many serbs in our country because the Turks would not have brought them over to work as serfs on our lands.

So I’m only half joking when I say you are obligated to help :)

While I agree with you about the problem in Syria. I believe we have a huge part in that mess. (Well not we, Erdogan actually. even if I hate him I cant distant myself from the responsibility of my country)

I don't agree with you about Bosnia. This is super off topic so I won't say anything else I respect tour point of view.

We have a saying in Turkey. "If my grandma had a mustache she would be my grandpa" what you are suggesting is indirect effects of historical events. What if Muslims and Christians got along better ? What if serbs moving in to the area embraced bosnian identitiy ? What if Yugoslavia still existed today ? What if Ultra-nationalism wasn't a popular school of thought in that region? See you can create numerous scenarios which could made the things not like how it were. Bypassing all that thousand factors and tying that ti Turkey is just not compelling to me.

Look at England Celtics. Invaded by Romans. And then Invaded by Vikings, Great Heaten Army, Pagans. Died by the thousands. And then later some french noble came and took british crown and became king. He didn't even know how to speak english at first. And after all that. A empire was born almost ruled the world. If they had failed there were several good excuses you must admit. So don't even start what ottomans did in that area hundreds of years ago. Please.
 
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While I agree with you about the problem in Syria. I believe we have a huge part in that mess. (Well not we, Erdogan actually. even if I hate him I cant distant myself from the responsibility of my country)

I don't agree with you about Bosnia. This is super off topic so I won't say anything else I respect tour point of view.

We have a saying in Turkey. "If my grandma had a mustache she would be my grandpa" what you are suggesting is indirect effects of historical events. What if Muslims and Christians got along better ? What if serbs moving in to the area embraced bosnian identitiy ? What if Yugoslavia still existed today ? What if Ultra-nationalism wasn't a popular school of thought in that region? See you can create numerous scenarios which could made the things not like how it were. Bypassing all that thousand factors and tying that ti Turkey is just not compelling to me.

Look at England Celtics. Invaded by Romans. And then Invaded by Vikings, Great Heaten Army, Pagans. Died by the thousands. And then later some french noble came and took british crown and became king. He didn't even know how to speak english at first. And after all that. A empire was born almost ruled the world. If they had failed there were several good excuses you must admit. So don't even start what ottomans did in that area hundreds of years ago. Please.

Well had you not come to Bosnia I suppose serbs be would be blowing up our churches and not our mosques. Fair enough. We may still be fighting.
I know that some of you armchair generals are sorry that the war is over. You will not get see more videos of deaths. You still have video games unmarries slops. The point was political solution and not the endless war. Palestinians, Pakistan and India can learn from this and cut of elites from profiting on endless conflicts.
Azerbaijan won in war and shall win in peace. Economy and prosper will bring people together. War mongers from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan can only watch and weep. Learn how independent modern and secular country wages war and diplomatic efforts as dessert.
THE END.

Well you don’t understand, a war was fought and maybe 2,000 azeiris died. They died so that their children will not have to fight this war in 20 years time.

They instead got a frozen conflict which their children might have to fight. And that’s a shame.

Jsut like we got in Bosnia. Tell me with the current situation you think this is over? Hell no my kids will have to stop these maniacs taking half of Bosnia. It’s just delaying the inevitable. I don’t want perpetual war, just enough to kick ARM army out of NK. And may they never come back. And for Azeiri flags to fly over every inch their land.

If that’s achieved fine, great peace. If azeriris have to do this again in 10 years against Armenian drones supplied free from Russia, then this is a disgrace of a peace
"And the remainder of the land (34.5%) stays with the self declared republic of artshak, which will remain off limits in every way to the government in Baku unless some further agreement is reached in the coming years."

There is no evidence of this...

The so called Artsakh republic is dead. The region is to come under Azerbaijan as an autonomous region.

That doesn't mean it will be independent, or that it will be under Armenian republic's rule.

Its financial situation will be determined by Azerbaijan, as all autonomous regions tend to be, the world over in their respective countries.

What you're saying is coming directly out of thin air, and makes no sense for Azerbaijan to agree to it.

You’re making massive assumptions without any proof. Show me where this was the agreement.
 
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Well had you not come to Bosnia I suppose serbs be would be blowing up our churches and not our mosques. Fair enough. We may still be fighting.
Maybe..
Maybe we shouldn't backtrack everything and try to find a single suitable excuse. Maybe there is none. Maybe more than one. Cause it can go back all the way to adam.

He shouldn't have eaten that apple

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Next few days will be clearer. Also reports of pockets of soldiers refusing to surrender not sure how true...they might still be picked off by AZ or their own army to escort them away. They can tell their kids they had to be dragged off the battlefield makes for good heroics.

Pussyan is a goner. If they want to try again no doubt AZ will fortify NK. They can get drones and try again but by that time more defence systems from Turkey and likely Israel will be in place allover especially air defence and not the failed Russian type.

Iranians here talking shit and wasting everyone's time...here's a tissue for you girls. Don't stay mad.
 
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Well had you not come to Bosnia I suppose serbs be would be blowing up our churches and not our mosques. Fair enough. We may still be fighting.


Well you don’t understand, a war was fought and maybe 2,000 azeiris died. They died so that their children will not have to fight this war in 20 years time.

They instead got a frozen conflict which their children might have to fight. And that’s a shame.

Jsut like we got in Bosnia. Tell me with the current situation you think this is over? Hell no my kids will have to stop these maniacs taking half of Bosnia. It’s just delaying the inevitable. I don’t want perpetual war, just enough to kick ARM army out of NK. And may they never come back. And for Azeiri flags to fly over every inch their land.

If that’s achieved fine, great peace. If azeriris have to do this again in 10 years against Armenian drones supplied free from Russia, then this is a disgrace of a peace


You’re making massive assumptions without any proof. Show me where this was the agreement.
Lol, do you not see the irony of asking me for proof, when you yourself are literally making things up?

Nothing you've said is within the agreement that we know of. What I'm basing my opinion on is common sense. What you're basing your opinion on is....nothing really.
 
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Lol, do you not see the irony of asking me for proof, when you yourself are literally making things up?

Nothing you've said is within the agreement that we know of. What I'm basing my opinion on is common sense. What you're basing your opinion on is....nothing really.

Well your common sense is not going to return NK to AZE is it? What’s required is agreement. And Armenians aren’t going to return it or allow themselves to formally be a part of Azerbaijan because you have common sense,

Aliyev says that it’s status is not even mentioned In the agreement. That means that status quo remains. And that status quo is “self declared republic of artsakh”. Just like the last 30 years.

 
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Well your common sense is not going to return NK to AZE is it? What’s required is agreement. And Armenians aren’t going to return it or allow themselves to formally be a part of Azerbaijan because you have common sense,

Aliyev says that it’s status is not even mentioned In the agreement. That means that status quo remains. And that status quo is “self declared republic of artsakh”. Just like the last 30 years.


Alot people have repeated this to you. They sacrificed that 10% to save their own youths and loss of lives and settle for the remaining part. I don't see any negative narrative in this fortunately. This was the best outcome for the AZ they get to safe troops and lives and get upto 90% of their request. On the diplomatic table there has to be always a concession. Pash did concede defeat but in return he gets sometjing back for that concession which is AZ part of concession. Hope you understand and it's just simple negotiation
 
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Alot people have repeated this to you. They sacrificed that 10% to save their own youths and loss of lives and settle for the remaining part. I don't see any negative narrative in this fortunately. This was the best outcome for the AZ they get to safe troops and lives and get upto 90% of their request

You mean sacrificed 35%, and kept the war on freeze so their kids can fight it? Ok I see
 
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You mean sacrificed 35%, and kept the war on freeze so their kids can fight it? Ok I see

It's not 35% and the maps your circulating doesn't include the northern part that is in the hands of AZ. So no it is not. After this peace-deal I don't think this battle will be reopened again atleast from the Azeri side
 
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Turkey and Azerbaijan are now connected by land!! A great victory!!! Congratulations to Azerbaijan, Turkey and Pak....

A nice gift to President Biden, who has declared Russia as enemy#1...
you sure Turkey and Azerbaijan are connected by land? plz share if possible via map. if its true its a big one and a great news... kindly share map based info if possible
 
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Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to the rest


They're inviting 2,000 Russians with 90 APC's and 380 units of "special equipment" into their territory. lol God help AZE.

This map look like ARM will keep more like 20% of the seed declared republic, but lets see the final maps and some area measurements first. But its a significant amount.
 
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the real challenge is can and how would Azerbaijani do this massive rehabilitation
if it can pull that off..then fate of this region will be sealed

this is a very useful interview just before the cease fire(couple of hours ago)
you sure Turkey and Azerbaijan are connected by land? plz share if possible via map. if its true its a big one and a great news... kindly share map based info if possible
open google maps man..

there is highway from nachivan to turkey
second connection including gas pipelines is through Georgia which is a Azerbaijani ally
 
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Masha Allah! Congratulation to Azerbaijan. A war Fought aggressively and competently to achieve unification.

Truly General Staff & Planning division played a crucial role..in Azerbaijani Victory.
 
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