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13.500 years ago there were no so-called Han emperors ..... learn history


Ancient Turkic peoples throughout the last 40.000 years, had migrated further into Euroasian steppes, Europe, America, China, India as well as Mesopotomia while bringing their highly intelligent civilizations to the indigenous populations

and These ancient Turkic / Turanians also founded the civilizations of ancient Sumer, early Egypt, China, Indus Valley/India(Harappa) and furthermore influenced on every other early civilizations Sumerians , early Egyptians, Hittites/Hattians, Trojans, Lydians, Etruscans, Pelasgians, Basques and Celts/Picts, Indus civilizations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Dara, Incas, Aztecs, Mayans, and the builders of all ancient worlwide cities including South American cities of Tihuanaco and Karal


DNA and GENETİC SCIENCE never lies

even American genetic scientists have proved that Europeans ( haplogroup R ) and Native Americans ( haplogroup Q ) have proto Turkic blood ( haplogroup PM-45 )

Haplogroup P-M45 ( proto Turkic Peoples )
Time of origin : 45.000 years ago
Place of origin : Central asia and Southeast Asia
Descendants Haplogroup Q and R
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They were nomadic tribes and when they conquered they never left. Example The Azeris they were part of the IIkhanate that never left Persia and it's surrounding areas they adopted the religion and became sultans. The same with the Golden Horde which was the first one to convert to Islam right around the split and they never left the areas they conquered of Europe and Central Asia and assimilated while they are still present in these areas until today and the same thing happened with the Yuan Dynasty which was one of the 4 hordes and they remained in China and never left and assimilated.

The only one remaining in it's original territory was the Chagatai Khanate in it's original East asia birth place and also the same thing happened with the Mamluks who assimilated in Egypt and had a long sultanate and then the same thing happened again with the Mughal empire. They never leave since they are nomadic tribes. Then there is the seljuks who remained in the territories they conquered and later became the Ottomans.

And obviously they inter-marriage locals which caused them losing their features and it's due to multipe centuries of assimilation

Guys, I love your discussion about ancient china. And Seljuk DNA. Its my favourite morning conversation.

Let's continue that conversation in a new thread and leave this tread to boring war between AZ and ARM.
 
it won't help them. drones don't win wars. as you said.

don't waste your money. Look at Azerbaijan. they have many drones and they are losing every battle against the brave Armenians.

Drones are used with manned jets for maximum effectiveness. There's where Armenia's newly acquired Su-30SM air superiority jets come into play.

 
Wing Loong II is 2 million USD, half the price of TB2 which costs 4 million USD which is more expensive due to importation of EO and engine from the west though some of those at least EO has been banned by Canada.

Dont compare cheap low quality Chinese weapons with high quality NATO standart Turkish Weapons

even The Uae replaced low quality Chinese E/O System with French E/O System on Wing Long-II UCAV to operate in Libya



Turkish Bayraktar TB-2 = killer of Russian Air Defense Systems PANTSIR , OSA and BUK ..also Tanks,Howitzers,MLRSs

btw Turkish CATS E/O System in mass production to use on Turkish UCAVs Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI
 
Drones are used with manned jets for maximum effectiveness. There's where Armenia's newly acquired Su-30SM air superiority jets come into play.


this great equipment could really help ARM conduct their strategic withdrawals faster and more efficiently.
 
Armenian army making good use of Indian made counter battery radars and Chinese made long range heavy artillery against Azeri artillery positions.




Deal was finalized in March 2020 and strangely Armenia is processing the Indian equipment - probably off the shelf supply??????

That is why they are missing the targets......
 
Drones are used with manned jets for maximum effectiveness. There's where Armenia's newly acquired Su-30SM air superiority jets come into play.


and Azerbaijan can use S-125 , BUK , TOR-2E , OSA , S300 - BARAK-8 Air Defense Systems to hunt Armenian Fighter Jets including 6 of SU-30s

Azerbaijan has 200 of 48N6 missiles with range of 250 km
Azerbaijan has 80 Barak-8ER missiles with range of 150 km
 
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it won't help them. drones don't win wars. as you said.

don't waste your money. Look at Azerbaijan. they have many drones and they are losing every battle against the brave Armenians.

We can all see Azerbaijanis liberating territories, so how are they losing if they're kicking the Armenian army out of the territory that they captured?
 
We can all see Azerbaijanis liberating territories, so how are they losing if they're kicking the Armenian army out of the territory that they captured?

Well according to Austin Powers, it's all tactical retreat and ARM are winning. And with the arrival of Chinese drones the tactical withdrawal will be even quicker. Once they are all back in Armenia the Armenian victory will be complete it seems.
 
Meanwhile, China forums and sources shows a desire to see Turks loss their pants.

For the moment, China allows Russia and Iran to front this crisis.
agreed....Turkey regional actions are probably annoying to CHina, Russia and Iran, so they will all neutralize imperalistic drives by TUrkey either via technology, arms, political power...Turkey will have to call on NATO(which wont show up, just like they didnt show up in Persian Gulf to do "joint patrols" with US) if China starts competing with it more directly...it seems CHina is supplying the adversaries of Turkey's allies/proxies, whether in Syria, Libya, and now NK...Russia and CHina are on the same page. Turkey blocked.
 

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