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Can't compare a US sales team to a Pakistani one, it's an unfair comparison. The US team can exert far more pressure almost forcing nations to but their hardware due to the economic leverage they hold. All Pakistan can do and for that matter the rest of the world is smile tell people how nice we are.
The Rafale has been marketed by France for 20 years but only 3 overseas customers have stepped forward.
 
What happened to this Nawaz Sharif? Did we forget him at Baku airport?
No, musharraf's treachery happened to him. You know kargil and then coup and the horrible treatment afterwards and then exile and the accompanying tortures musharraf subjected the family to. That's what happened.

Not that that's any excuse at all for what he did after his return. Man of his stature -3 times prime minister, 2 times chief minister- should have thought of country first, second and also last! Should have gotten over self. Sadly he didn't. Unfortunately he surrounded himself with wrong kind of advisers and as a result his 3rd term was the worst one of all 3.

On the topic itself, one can never be too careful when it comes to israeli involvement. But perhaps, given our close relations with azerbaijan, we can maybe keep a decent representation there to keep an eye on things?
 
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Tariq Ismail Sagar is reporting the sale of 36 JF-17s + additional deals with Azarbaijan.


I hope this news is true. The JF-17 will get another chance to be battle tested in A2G and possibly A2A if the Armenians so choose.

Putin just came up with a statement on Twitter that because the conflict is in what is considered Azerbaijan’s territory, Russia need not intervene.

If it is a rush order, from our current Stocks, it will probably be Block II aircraft and will be excellent marketing for the Thunder.

BTW, does the JF-17 have a NATO codename? I’m guessing it may end up being called the “JEFF”, as it is called by many on DCS.
 
NATO code names usually start with F for fighters. FISHBED, FLANKER, FANTAN, FULCRUM, etc. The proper way to write them is in all caps, though common usage on the internet does not follow this. Lately they have stopped announcing the names to the world, so we really don't know what they call 'em. Supposedly the J-10 is the "FIREBIRD" but this is urban legend.
 
Lately they have stopped announcing the names to the world...
The Su57 got the name Felon. The Chinese apparently have applied for kind of exemption from NATO reporting names
 
Tariq Ismail Sagar is reporting the sale of 36 JF-17s + additional deals with Azarbaijan.


That's two squadrons. Kamra cant produce that many in short time since the need is now. Maybe Chengdu will step in.

I think we might be looking at releasing some block 2s from PAF own inventory just like french provided Indians, the initial batch of Rafaels from their own active units.
 
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we should introduce ban on export of Block III

Azerbaijan is too close to Israel and India is close to Israel

we could end up back firing here

max. should be Block II
Even block 3 is simply a assembly job. All the components are available elsewhere in other jets. There is no secret tech here which pakistan kept secret like the USA keep F22 raptor secrets.
So nothing to worry IMHO.
 
max. offer should be downgraded Block 2

give it with IFR

no more
 
If azerbaijan air force possessed atleast 1 sq of jft blk 2 now it wld have made huge difference in air dominance . Armenian only 4 su30 wld be no match at all .
 
Kamra already had beefed up the production from 16 to 26 jets/annum
That's two squadrons. Kamra cant produce that many in short time since the need is now. Maybe Chengdu will step in.

I think we might be looking at releasing some block 2s from PAF own inventory just like french provided Indians, the initial batch of Rafaels from their own active units.
 

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