Azad Kashmir:young man tortured to death in military custody

[haviZsultan]

This should be fully investigated and the culprits brought to justice.

The place where India is lucky is that Indian occupied Kashmir barely has a population of 7-10 Million. With a population of 1 billion+ in total India can easily control Kashmir even if it is on the point of the sword. Indian power eclipses the will of the Kashmiri people.

To my fellow Pakistanis this may sound cynical but I know our government has no will not only to aggressively demand its best interests be served but also the will to protect its citizens. A lot of Kashmiris who have only the word Pakistan Zindabad on their lips will die saying Pakistan Zindabad but no one will come to offer them their arm for support.

This is what it means to be a Nationalist.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Linking a 2 year old aritlce?

Nor really, the protests are held regularly despite the fact that any kashmiri killed in pakistan or 'disappeared'' there will get noone's sympathy as he will be branded a traitor, and there was an article y'day about exiled leaders from pakistani administered kashmir raising their voice in UN couple of days before, which was promptly deleted by the forum management.

You can hide facts in pakistan where cultural intimidation seems to be the rule, but this is internet

in 2011

BBC News - Anti-militant protests in Pakistan's Neelum valley

in 2012

Strike in Neelum valley against militant activities | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

last week

UNPO: Balochistan: Demonstration At The UN In Geneva

 

[Areesh]

No , they do not

According to Freedom House the residents of P0K doesnot have the liberties and enjoy rights which even the residents of Indian J&K get .

As for the condition of people in P0K ,

http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmi...oung-man-tortured-death-military-custody.html

BBC News - Anti-militant protests in Pakistan's Neelum valley

They are living peacefully with proper liberties and in a much better condition than a Muslim Kashmiri can dream of. So it is good. Leave Kashmiris they are living a better life than most of the Indians.

That is just a fancy name pakistan use to fool the population and mask the reality.

Not a fancy name. Since azad means free from Indian occupation it truly justifies its own name. You don't occupy it after all.

But still its not a free land.

It is Azad. Azad means free from Indian occupation.

Free enough.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

They are living peacefully with proper liberties and in a much better condition than a Muslim Kashmiri can dream of. So it is good. Leave Kashmiris they are living a better life than most of the Indians.



Not a fancy name. Since azad means free from Indian occupation it truly justifies its own name. You don't occupy it after all.



It is Azad. Azad means free from Indian occupation.

Free enough.

Azaad also means under Pakistani occupation.

 

[kurup]

They are living peacefully with proper liberties and in a much better condition than a Muslim Kashmiri can dream of. So it is good. Leave Kashmiris they are living a better life than most of the Indians.

Not a fancy name. Since azad means free from Indian occupation it truly justifies its own name. You don't occupy it after all.

You are completely wrong .The condition of people in P0K is pathetic than that of J&K.

As a matter of fact the condition of people in J&K is still better than that of even pakistan.

From freedom house ,

 

[Ayush]

Your statement.



Says enough.

Indian Kashmir has 8 Million people, While Pakistan held Kashmir has 3 Million people, where as area under control is almost equal for both countries.

Guys,one more reason for more riots in J & K is religion..the thing is the seperatists want islam, and islam is the one of the few things pak can offer more than india. In P-O-K this is not the case.any comments? ? @Parul @Armstrong

 

[Jade]

Guys,one more reason for more riots in J & K is religion..the thing is the seperatists want islam, and islam is the one of the few things pak can offer more than india. In P-O-K this is not the case.any comments? ? @Parul @Armstrong

Is doesn;t matter what separatist want but people of Kashmir and India wants.

 

[Armstrong]

Guys,one more reason for more riots in J & K is religion..the thing is the seperatists want islam, and islam is the one of the few things pak can offer more than india. In P-O-K this is not the case.any comments? ? @Parul @Armstrong

Its a bit less complicated than that - You can't just kill people & expect them to be Alright with it ! We did that in Bangladesh & how it turned out ?

 

[Secur]

Only reason Pak Administered Kashmir remain more peaceful because of India not choosing to promote violence there.

Doesn't make no sense . India's not choosing to promote violence in Azad Kashmir or Gilgit-Baltistan , because it simply cant , even though it can relieve the pressure to a certain extent in the occupied Kashmir and give legitimacy to your claim . My country does , because it can get a common Kashmiri to revolt against Indian rule , to protest , to express his discontent by different means and to take up arms against the Indian union . You see no mass demonstrations , protests against Pakistani rule , secessionist movement and daily strikes in Pakistan administered Kashmir but the same isn't true for you , right ? Why do you think is that ? Because the Muslims in the valley do not want to live with India . You know it better than me as much as you would like to prove otherwise here .

After all , almost 50,000 people didn't come from Punjab to hoist the Pakistani flag in Srinagar and burn the tri-color at the same place where Mr.Nehru unfurled the Indian flag ? Is it a mystery that 15 August is celebrated as a black day whilst there are celebrations in the valley just one day before ? Is it not known that the slogans of Pakistan Zindabad , Jeway Jeway Pakistan and Hum kia chahtey hein azaadi are a norm during protests and mass demonstrations ? What happened when the Indian Chief Justice recently visited Kashmir ?

Its a bit less complicated than that - You can't just kill people & expect them to be Alright with it ! We did that in Bangladesh & how it turned out ?

Its a bit more less complicated than that , mate . You cant really keep people who do not want to live with you , for long .

There's a reason why we do not station our army in every nook and corner of our administered Kashmir whilst India does , right ?

 

[kurup]

From the 2013 Freedom House Report ,

 

[Ammyy]

Doesn't make no sense . India's not choosing to promote violence in Azad Kashmir or Gilgit-Baltistan , because it simply cant , even though it can relieve the pressure to a certain extent in the occupied Kashmir and give legitimacy to your claim . My country does , because it can get a common Kashmiri to revolt against Indian rule , to protest , to express his discontent by different means and to take up arms against the Indian union . You see no mass demonstrations , protests against Pakistani rule , secessionist movement and daily strikes in Pakistan administered Kashmir but the same isn't true for you , right ? Why do you think is that ? Because the Muslims in the valley do not want to live with India . You know it better than me as much as you would like to prove otherwise here .

After all , almost 50,000 people didn't come from Punjab to hoist the Pakistani flag in Srinagar and burn the tri-color at the same place where Mr.Nehru unfurled the Indian flag ? Is it a mystery that 15 August is celebrated as a black day whilst there are celebrations in the valley just one day before ? Is it not known that the slogans of Pakistan Zindabad , Jeway Jeway Pakistan and Hum kia chahtey hein azaadi are a norm during protests and mass demonstrations ? What happened when the Indian Chief Justice recently visited Kashmir ?



Its a bit more less complicated than that , mate . You cant really keep people who do not want to live with you , for long .

There's a reason why we do not station our army in every nook and corner of our administered Kashmir whilst India does , right ?

How can your compare J&K with P O K ??? People of J&K choosing their own government on the other hand people of PO K dnt have right to choose leader for national assembly....

This basic difference reveals every thing.

 

[Areesh]

From the 2013 Freedom House Report ,

Only lame excuse you guys have on the issue of Kashmir. Even though it won't work.

 

[Ammyy]

Only lame excuse you guys have on the issue of Kashmir. Even though it won't work.

Wont work??? We have J&K from last 65 years and will remain with us forever.

 

[Areesh]

Wont work??? We have J&K from last 65 years and will remain with us forever.

I am talking about this freedom index that you guys keep boasting about. It is lame. Don't share it again.

By the way you have only 55% of erstwhile JK sate but anyways. I was talking about something else.

 

[kurup]

Only lame excuse you guys have on the issue of Kashmir. Even though it won't work.

What lame issue ?? The only one giving these lame excuses are you guys .

According to a a reputed international report , the people of J&K has a higher freedom than people of pakistan and pakistan occupied kashmir . The condition of p0k is reported to be pathetic.