Azad Kashmir:young man tortured to death in military custody

[Jade]

Your statement.



Says enough.

Indian Kashmir has 8 Million people, While Pakistan held Kashmir has 3 Million people, where as area under control is almost equal for both countries.

 

[kurup]

According to the Freedom House World Freedom Reports, in 2008 Pakistan-administered Kashmir was given the status “Not Free”. This index awards a score of 1 to a “free country” based on ratings of political rights and civil liberties. These ratings are averaged, ranging from 1 to 7, i.e. countries or disputed territories with scores from 1 to 2.5 are considered Free, 3 to 5 are Partly Free, and 5.5 to 7 are Not Free. In 2008, this index gave AJK a Political Rights Score of 7 and a Civil Liberties score of 5. The scores for AJK have improved to a 6 and a 5 respectively in 2010. In comparison, Indian-administered Kashmir has better scores of 5 for political rights and a 4 for civil liberties, and a status of ‘partly free’, which ironically is exactly equivalent to Pakistan’s national score and status!

For Ikram – Life in Pakistan occupied Kashmir – Azad Kashmir – markulyseas - My Telegraph

The reality of so called azadi in pakistan occupied kashmir .

 

[Areesh]

And How did you decide by looking at that video...that the men who were executed by your army ..were not only hard core Taliban..but were also involved in grave crimes.

Don't you have courts, which decide if a person is guilty or not. or your army has been given the power of being the judge, jury and executioner in areas of its deployment and is answerable to none?

If those killed in the video were hardcore Taliban, had committed grave crimes and deserved this punishment, why then the entire charade of carrying out an "investigation into the killings" ?

Are all you investigation/probes like this only ..just to fool the common people...order a probe then wait for people to forget the incident..before sweeping the entire thing under the carpet?

Nobody came forward for them. Not even the people of Swat valley. People are happy that there valley is cleared from Taliban. They were Talibans and were captured during the operation.

Unless you have something to prove that they were civilians, like always your whole hypothesis is based on assumptions.

 

[Areesh]

Nothing happens like IAK as it does in P0K, you're right.

Would only laugh at your delusional attitude. You deserve a LOL.

There might be a few misinformed shootings and such, but no one is tortured to death.

I came up with the story? No, UN did, I simply tried to to paraphrase it for the level of intelligence trolls possess. From the looks of it, I didn't do that well enough.

You tried to come up with a twist to the UN story and ended up making your army a children murderer. In fact the paragraph you quoted was a complete exposition of the crimes of your army.

I didn't do that well enough.

You are a failure. You even don't know much about your so called integral part.

There's only so much restraint one can apply before having to fire. There's no way to avoid killing anyone when 38 kids are firing at you. Even then 10 were killed and 28 arrested, and that's better than what PA would have done, They would probably have tortured any prisoners.

Killing kids is what you and your low life army can do. No wonder 100+ kids were killed in the summer of 2010.

It worked very well to prove your stupidity beyond doubt.

It worked very much against you. You ended up accusing your own army of killing children.

Even the fellow Pakistani friend you invited to measure my delusions agrees that quoting incidents from IAK does not justify the torture of a Kashmiri in P0K.

He has his opinion and we respect that. We are not going to kill him like you guys normally do in IOK. Don't worry.

And your posts make no sense in any context whatsoever.

You are at a level beyond idiocity.

Lol. Realize your mistake kid? You quoted the wrong post.

PA has no qualms about killing anyone, be it Muslim, Sunni or Shia, Hindu, Christian, or any other religion. We're probably gonna get some BS like, "He was a RAW agent, or something" but that doesn't make this act any less monstrous.

Still it has no shortage of recruits from all over Pakistan and no Pakistani solder kills fellow soldier like it is a tradition in your army.

According to the Freedom House World Freedom Reports, in 2008 Pakistan-administered Kashmir was given the status “Not Free”. This index awards a score of 1 to a “free country” based on ratings of political rights and civil liberties. These ratings are averaged, ranging from 1 to 7, i.e. countries or disputed territories with scores from 1 to 2.5 are considered Free, 3 to 5 are Partly Free, and 5.5 to 7 are Not Free. In 2008, this index gave AJK a Political Rights Score of 7 and a Civil Liberties score of 5. The scores for AJK have improved to a 6 and a 5 respectively in 2010. In comparison, Indian-administered Kashmir has better scores of 5 for political rights and a 4 for civil liberties, and a status of ‘partly free’, which ironically is exactly equivalent to Pakistan’s national score and status!

For Ikram – Life in Pakistan occupied Kashmir – Azad Kashmir – markulyseas - My Telegraph

The reality of so called azadi in pakistan occupied kashmir .

True it is isn't free from Pakistan. It is free from Indian occupation that's why it is called Azad Kashmir. Hopefully low IQ Indians might understand this.

 

[Areesh]

Why would somebody with a dead son do that? That's beyond logic, but hey, when Pakistanis do it, bury your head in the sand, right? I'm not even going to reply to the rest of your post because you clearly didn't read mine.

Because may be his son might be involved in some activity that forced PA to take action against him. In any case it is just an allegation that the boy was killed by PA. I say again. This isn't an investigative report like the ones we read about IOK.

 

[INDIC]

True it is isn't free from Pakistan. It is free from Indian occupation that's why it is called Azad Kashmir. Hopefully low IQ Indians might understand this.

But in 1947, Laskhars came to collect booty. Life Magazine photographer Margaret Bourke White reported about trucks full of loots(Laskhars looted the houses of Kashmiris) were coming inside Pakistan. How, this called be Azadi.

 

[Areesh]

But in 1947, Laskhars came to collect booty. Life Magazine photographer Margaret Bourke White reported about trucks full of loots(Laskhars looted the houses of Kashmiris) were coming inside Pakistan. How, this called be Azadi.

For a low IQ Indian. Again. Azad Kashmir means free from Indian occupation.

 

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

Because may be his son might be involved in some activity that forced PA to take action against him. In any case it is just an allegation that the boy was killed by PA. I say again. This isn't an investigative report like the ones we read about IOK.

And what role does PA have in law and order in AJK? Isn't AJK supposed to be an autonomous state run by Kashmiris? Your argument is falling apart at the seams.

 

[kurup]

True it is isn't free from Pakistan. It is free from Indian occupation that's why it is called Azad Kashmir. Hopefully low IQ Indians might understand this.

The status of the state on the Freedom House World Freedom Reports, is based on ratings of political rights and civil liberties the residents gets and not on basis of it is free from some country or not .

Looks like high IQ pakistanis are not able to comprehend simple english.

 

[Areesh]

The status of the state on the Freedom House World Freedom Reports, is based on ratings of political rights and civil liberties the residents gets and not on basis of it is free from some country or not .

Looks like high IQ pakistanis are not able to comprehend simple english.

They have enough liberty. Don't enjoy the liberty like the citizens of IOK who have the freedom to be killed by security forces in fake encounter or die a natural death. But they have enough liberty. That's why there are no curfews imposed even for one out of 365 days of the year. Got it low ..........

But how can it be azad when it is still under pakistani occupation.

Because they are free from Indian occupation hence they are Azad.

And what role does PA have in law and order in AJK? Isn't AJK supposed to be an autonomous state run by Kashmiris? Your argument is falling apart at the seams.

It is not about law and order. I never said PA is for law and order. It is about national security. PA isn't going to kill someone unless he or she was involved in some kind of activity that was against the state or was a spy. In case he was killed by PA that is.

 

[SamantK]

Because they are free from Indian occupation hence they are Azad.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmi...d-death-military-custody-9.html#ixzz2OcZvF4wh

Tum karo to Chamatkar, ham karne to balatkar

Funny, how you think!

 

[Areesh]

Tum karo to Chamatkar, ham karne to balatkar

Funny, how you think!

Tum to baar baar kartai ho balatkar. Hamara to 60 years main pehla waqia hai. And we don't even know the facts behind it.

 

[SamantK]

Tum to baar baar kartai ho balatkar. Hamara to 60 years main pehla waqia hai. And we don't even know the facts behind it.

How do you know the facts from the Indian side, telepathy

 

[kurup]

They have enough liberty. Don't enjoy the liberty like the citizens of IOK who have the freedom to be killed by security forces in fake encounter or die a natural death. But they have enough liberty. That's why there are no curfews imposed even for one out of 365 days of the year. Got it low ..........

No , they do not

According to Freedom House the residents of P0K doesnot have the liberties and enjoy rights which even the residents of Indian J&K get .

As for the condition of people in P0K ,

http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmi...oung-man-tortured-death-military-custody.html

BBC News - Anti-militant protests in Pakistan's Neelum valley

Because they are free from Indian occupation hence they are Azad.

That is just a fancy name pakistan use to fool the population and mask the reality.

If tomorrow pakistan renames it to martian kashmir , kashmir will not become martian .Same way just because pakistan names it azad doesnot make it azad.

 

[INDIC]

For a low IQ Indian. Again. Azad Kashmir means free from Indian occupation.

But still its not a free land.