Ayan Ali may be pregnant

[syedali73]

Yes as per Islamic refullic Pakistan

Show me record of a single incident where an unmarried mother was stoned to death in the Islamic republic of Pakistan?

Why you folks talk baseless nonsense? You have no grace or honor that you ridicule your country for something that does not even exist? An ignorant rabid anti-Islam anti-Pakistan vomited nonsense and you followed the suit? Why?

 

[VCheng]

The Offence of Zina (Enforcement Of Hudood) Ordinance, 1979.

 

[syedali73]

If it was really enforced in its true spirit, many of those who are barking against their motherland would have not born in the first place.

Not law but the enforcement of law is what matters. We also have article 62 and 63 to prevent those womanizers, drunkards, thieves, tax evaders, criminals, 5th columns from becoming the legislators but it is exactly this kind that becomes the members of the parliament.

 

[VCheng]

The law is the law. That is what it says. Clearly.

Laxity or failure to implement the law, specially if selective, is no excuse.

 

[Atheria]

The Offence of Zina (Enforcement Of Hudood) Ordinance, 1979.

quoting from the link:

17. Mode of execution of punishment of stoning to death
The punishment of stoning to death awarded under section 5 16[] 16 shall be executed in the following manner, namely :-Such of the witnesses who deposed against the convict as may be available shall start stoning him and, while stoning is being carried on, he may be shot dead, whereupon stoning and shooting shall be stopped.

A sadistic medieval law

 

[syedali73]

A sadistic medieval law

Indeed. What is Mirza saheb's take on this? He condones or otherwise? Last I remember he was still following Quran, the same Quran that has mentioned the sentence for those who get into illicit acts. Please enlighten with reference. Thanks.

 

[Green Angel]

ANOTHER BHUTTO IS COMING AFTER BILAWAL......

 

[VCheng]

quoting from the link:



A sadistic medieval law

That may be your view, but the laws of a country reflect the wishes and aspirations of its people. If they want laws like this, they will have them. Their country, their rules.

 

[Atheria]

in reference to post [HASHTAG]#111[/HASHTAG]

ahh .... another clever ploy to make another thread into a sectarian troll fest---- Debating religion is not allowed otherwise I would have taken your bigoted interpretation to task

on topic:
What two people do should be none of the state's concern--- period

 

[syedali73]

in reference to post [HASHTAG]#111[/HASHTAG]

ahh .... another clever ploy to make another thread into a sectarian troll fest---- Debating religion is not allowed otherwise I would have taken your bigoted interpretation to task

on topic:
What two people do should be none of the state's concern--- period

Perfect suggestion. Usually one is murderer another is victim, what two people do should not be state's concern... One is dacoit, another who lost their belongings, what two people do should not be state's concern... Lets sack the law and let every two settle what they do. Perfect to the core.

 

[Atheria]

Usually one is murderer another is victim, what two people do should not be state's concern... One is dacoit, another who lost their belongings, what two people do should not be state's concern... Lets sack the law and let every two settle what they do. Perfect to the core.

Genius
comparing murderers and dacoits with What two people do in privacy with consent which harms no one ?
This couldn't get more illogical than that.

 

[Shot-Caller]

Genius
comparing murderers and dacoits with What two people do in privacy with consent which harms no one ?
This couldn't get more illogical than that.

Those 2 should get married. It affects the society so people are concerned. You Cant live with your eyes closed because you are a part of the society and you need to stay informed about what wrong is happening around you.

 

[Atheria]

That may be your view, but the laws of a country reflect the wishes and aspirations of its people. If they want laws like this, they will have them. Their country, their rules.

As Pakistanis we should have the right to criticize any law, whether it be the barbaric hudood ordinance or the aparthied laws against Ahmedis
It shouldn't be a religious matter but a civil rights issue.

 

[syedali73]

Genius
comparing murderers and dacoits with What two people do in privacy with consent which harms no one ?
This couldn't get more illogical than that.

True again. The two people you are talking about are not living in a jungle or on a secluded island but in a society. What they do in private is not as private for the consequences of their private acts do affect the society. There is not one religion (except the one that perhaps you follow, I don't know) that does not encourage couples to live together legally. Islam maybe outdated and whatever but religions older than Islam such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, you name, all encourage the couple to tie in legal bonds.

Like I said in another thread, I am tired of these outdated stone aged religions. I want to follow the enlightened, modern, and evolving religion that you follow. Please educate me on that. I really want to get converted. Thanks.

As Pakistanis we should have the right to criticize any law, whether it be the barbaric hudood ordinance or the aparthied laws against Ahmedis
It shouldn't be a religious matter but a civil rights issue.

I am sure you support democracy. Those laws were enacted by elected representatives and can be revoked by the elected representatives. Do something about it and until your efforts come to fruition, respect the opinion of the majority in true spirit of democracy. An enlighten, civil, and intelligent person like you should have no issue understanding this. Thanks.

 

[VCheng]

As Pakistanis we should have the right to criticize any law, whether it be the barbaric hudood ordinance or the aparthied laws against Ahmedis
It shouldn't be a religious matter but a civil rights issue.

But that is the basic issue: What has priority? Civil rights over religion, or religion above all else? Further, who gets to enforce it? The State, or not? Please re-read the Objectives Resolution and you will see that that is the root of the present day system as an expression of the will of the people.