Avoiding detection in aerial combat

[The SC]

I concur with the only professional who replied you

I don't!

 

[messiach]

Workable -needs significant power generation -it will still be LO.

The Mitsubishi technology demonstrator (Shin Shin, Japanese 5th gen prototype) uses something called active stealth where the entire external skin of the plane is like a get circuit board and any radar signal touching it is actively cancelled so that it appears invisible on the enemy radar. I wonder if that system actually works or its just on paper.

 

[Signalian]

I don't!

not surprised, your ego wont allow you.

 

[The SC]

not surprised, your ego wont allow you.

Maybe yours belongs to the professional guy you've been talking about!
Look what he answered and it did not make any sense.. since many armed forces are independent from the US..So here goes your ego..

 

[Saleem R Chandna]

You forget that Satellites traveling to fast too track fighter jets continuously, may be geostationary satellite could track fighter jets, but there are no spy satellites in geostationary orbit, mostly scientific/weather/earth observing satellites in geostationary orbits, spy always in the much lower orbit then geostationary satellites @Yaseen1

What about the super secret Boeing X-37 B autonomous Space Vehicle which is already 710 days in orbit since its mission launch in September 2017. It can change direction, altitude and other parameters as per ground operations commands. There must be very little remaining hidden on earth's surface from this Eye in the Sky.

 

[Ultima Thule]

What about the super secret Boeing X-37 B autonomous Space Vehicle which is already 710 days in orbit since its mission launch in September 2017. It can change direction, altitude and other parameters as per ground operations commands. There must be very little remaining hidden on earth's surface from this Eye in the Sky.

Same as spy satellite It is in much orbits in lower then geostationary satellite means its moving too fast relative to earth, and can't track fighter jets Continuously, geostationary satellite, can track fighter jet continuously because this orbit/fixed over the specific country, and takes same time that earth revolve (24 hours), X-37 B can only only spy fixed target or slow moving target (vehicles), Fast moving fighter jets its has no chance @Saleem R Chandna

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

You could have an AI system managing different forms of aerial surveillance. The AI could combine satellite, radar and sound trackers(maybe in future there will be technology that can track aircraft through acoustic signature kinda like sonar??)

You forget that Satellites traveling to fast too track fighter jets continuously, may be geostationary satellite could track fighter jets, but there are no spy satellites in geostationary orbit, mostly scientific/weather/earth observing satellites in geostationary orbits, spy always in the much lower orbit then geostationary satellites @Yaseen1

 

[Ultima Thule]

You could have an AI system managing different forms of aerial surveillance. The AI could combine satellite, radar and sound trackers(maybe in future there will be technology that can track aircraft through acoustic signature kinda like sonar??)

may be but its far in the future @Ahmet Pasha

 

[Signalian]

..So here goes your ego..

Got none.

 

[TNT]

You forget that Satellites traveling to fast too track fighter jets continuously, may be geostationary satellite could track fighter jets, but there are no spy satellites in geostationary orbit, mostly scientific/weather/earth observing satellites in geostationary orbits, spy always in the much lower orbit then geostationary satellites @Yaseen1

Already spy satellites in geostationary orbits, they just dont mention it. Also low earth orbit satellites are never alone. For example the US have a fleet of hundreds of LEO satellites all connected to each other directly and indirectly through earth stations. With powerful detection mechanisms and AI, soon they will be able to detect everything.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Already spy satellites in geostationary orbits, they just dont mention it. Also low earth orbit satellites are never alone. For example the US have a fleet of hundreds of LEO satellites all connected to each other directly and indirectly through earth stations. With powerful detection mechanisms and AI, soon they will be able to detect everything.

What your proof that there are 100s of spy satellites of USA in LEO, and most them are disable/Junk/malfunctioned spy satellite of USA/Russia in LEO orbits, because of earth gravity/drag/ fuel elimination etc etc @T|/|T

 

[Signalian]

Already spy satellites in geostationary orbits, they just dont mention it. Also low earth orbit satellites are never alone. For example the US have a fleet of hundreds of LEO satellites all connected to each other directly and indirectly through earth stations. With powerful detection mechanisms and AI, soon they will be able to detect everything.

Not aircraft, unless the aircraft itself transmits to communicate with satellite such as its location through ADS-B.

I think timely firing air to air or air to ground missiles with flares filled warheads from let's say 100, then 80, then 60, 40 and 20 km with fighters in an in-line formation (one behind the other) will do the trick of avoiding detection against any air-defence system..

The moment a missile is fire, detection will occur.

 

[TNT]

What your proof that there are 100s of spy satellites of USA in LEO, and most them are disable/Junk/malfunctioned spy satellite of USA/Russia in LEO orbits, because of earth gravity/drag/ fuel elimination etc etc @T|/|T

There are thousands of satellites in general in different orbits. I have worked with a satellite company and the amount of satellites is really huge. There are satellites as small as 10cm by 10cm. Usually capability of a satellite is never openly disclosed. Vague terms like earth observation satellites is used.
In LEO orbits, there are no dead satellites. A satellite to remain in orbit requires gas boosters. Once the fuel runs out, it either falls into earth and burns in atmosphere or is tossed into unstable orbits n is lost in space. Dead satellites in any orbit cannot stay its course for long and eventually falls into earth or is slinged into space. All satellites have an expiry date and that is because of the limited fuel it can carry. Modern satellites are designed to safely fall into earth over Pacific ocean after expiry. This can be anything from one week to 10 years, depending on fuel it carries. The GPS network alone have around 45 satellites in low and medium earth orbits. It is designed in a way that atleast two satellites are always over head at any given location.

 

[The SC]

The moment a missile is fire, detection will occur.

From 100 km or more who cares.. the effect of its chaff will cover the advance of the attacking aircrafts.. and then another one.. and so on (This must be calculated in proportion to the duration of the chaff effect on the radar and the number of chaff tipped missiles to be lunched plus the distance to be covered) .. till the aircrafts are on top of the radar or close enough to destroy it..

 

[TNT]

Not aircraft, unless the aircraft itself transmits to communicate with satellite such as its location through ADS-B.


The moment a missile is fire, detection will occur.

Once aircraft transmits then ofcourse its detected. Even passenger jet liners are connected to satellites for internet. My point is that it is possible to detect enemy or unconnected aircraft from space. A LEO satellite can be a couple of hundred KMs above and therefore can employ a range of techniques to detect an aircraft. These can include active radar on satellites, infra red detection, visual detection and energy detection (passive detection). This information from a variety of satellites, all connected to a powerful AI enabled central entity can detect an aircraft. I dont know if there is any work going on but the technology is there.