AVIC Presents FC-31 Stealth Fighter model to Pakistan Air Force Chief.

[Sheikh Rauf]

Is there any technology transfer agreement, if not maybe assemble in Pak?

 

[Zarvan]

Chinese Media reported about PAF's Possible Procurement of 40 FC-31 5th Generation Stealth Jets

 

[NIA]

Oh yes you are right...
here is the article.
Russia's fancy new stealth fighter is in serious trouble

welcome to my ignore list..

 

[ziaulislam]

Money is always an issue to every country. What happened to MRCA,and PAK-FA were purely due to economic reasons

 

[Stephen Cohen]

. A small formation of Gripen -NGs can communicate and share data with each other which allows them to fight as a team against a larger enemy force.

That is a NICE explanation regarding what Net centricity is all about

 

[pkd]

AVIC Chinese Stealth Fighter Usb Flash Drive

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[tahir195]

Powerplant: 2 × WS-13A afterburning Turbofans, 100 kN (22,000 lbf) thrust each

per powerplant or whole?

 

[A2Z]

will china induct j-31?
and will they develop ws-13 or will they stick to rd-93/33?

They are working WS-13 and would use it once its ready. Even thunder would use WS-13.

 

[slapshot]

They are working WS-13 and would use it once its ready. Even thunder would use WS-13.

Lets hope if Pakistan someday gets a deal for french jet engines that it would bring the platforms using R93 to whole new level.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Chinese Media reported about PAF's Possible Procurement of 40 FC-31 5th Generation Stealth Jets

I love this flag on this jet.

 

[batmannow]

PAF can fly over New Delhi stealthy then

- & surly can send a toy model of shaheen missile on the lawns of PM house of India with written in on it shamo ko salam ?

 

[araz]

They are working WS-13 and would use it once its ready. Even thunder would use WS-13.

Quite a few ifs and buts to this before it materializes. Things aren't as clear as you make them out to be at the moment.
Araz

 

[OrionHunter]

I think the J-31 needs massive improvement to be even combat ready. Some here have hazarded a guess by giving a time line of 2020-22. After reading the article below, I would say 2025-30.

Here's the article from China Times....

J-31 stealth jet gets bad reviews after Zhuhai Airshow flight
Chang Kuo-wei

China's newly unveiled J-31 stealth fighter has received bad reviews at home and abroad after making its first public demonstration flight during the biennial Zhuhai Airshow in the southern province of Guangdong.

The criticism of J-31, China's second fifth-generation fighter jet, mainly stems from the dark exhaust emitting from the jet's engine, which indicates the engine's poor efficiency in burning fuel.

There are two types of engines used on the J-31 jets — the RD-93 used by Russia's MiG-29 fighters will be fitted to those intended for foreign clients, while the ones deployed by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) will have the WS-13 engine developed from the RD-93.

It is unclear which type of engine the J-31 on display in Zhuhai used.

Meanwhile, PLA Navy Rear Admiral Zhang Zhaozhong said in a speech in Xiamen on Nov. 17 that China's reverse engineering still has its limitations, and that it will take the country another few years to achieve a breakthrough in developing its own engines.

Zhang said the development of a jet engine involves mechanics and digital control, and the former is far more easy to master than the latter. "This part is too difficult and not something that can be achieved successfully in a short time," he said.

Zhang also believes that the J-31 jet is too heavy.

Meanwhile, Teal Group analyst Richard Aboulafia said prospects for the J-31 jet's export market are not as positive as many have described.

Aboulafia said countries buying Chinese military hardware are mainly poor, with Pakistan the largest customer, and China may have to find new clients for the higher-end fifth-generation fighters. These new clients are most likely China's neighbors, but these countries will have their doubts about Beijing given the tensions existing between them, Aboulafia added.

Moreover, the fifth-generation jets may have already come too late, since the US Air Force and Navy have both begun plans to develop their next-generation fighters to replace the F-22 and F/A-18E/F, respectively.

J-31 stealth jet gets bad reviews after Zhuhai Airshow flight｜WantChinaTimes.com

And by 2030, 5th gen fighters would be passe! 6/7th gen fighters are already in the works! And most would be pilot-less, controlled from ops rooms hundreds of miles away with full situational awareness of the operators ('pilots').

 

[Kompromat]

I think the J-31 needs massive improvement to be even combat ready. Some here have hazarded a guess by giving a time line of 2020-22. After reading the article below, I would say 2025-30.

Here's the article from China Times....

J-31 stealth jet gets bad reviews after Zhuhai Airshow flight
Chang Kuo-wei

China's newly unveiled J-31 stealth fighter has received bad reviews at home and abroad after making its first public demonstration flight during the biennial Zhuhai Airshow in the southern province of Guangdong.

The criticism of J-31, China's second fifth-generation fighter jet, mainly stems from the dark exhaust emitting from the jet's engine, which indicates the engine's poor efficiency in burning fuel.

There are two types of engines used on the J-31 jets — the RD-93 used by Russia's MiG-29 fighters will be fitted to those intended for foreign clients, while the ones deployed by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) will have the WS-13 engine developed from the RD-93.

It is unclear which type of engine the J-31 on display in Zhuhai used.

Meanwhile, PLA Navy Rear Admiral Zhang Zhaozhong said in a speech in Xiamen on Nov. 17 that China's reverse engineering still has its limitations, and that it will take the country another few years to achieve a breakthrough in developing its own engines.

Zhang said the development of a jet engine involves mechanics and digital control, and the former is far more easy to master than the latter. "This part is too difficult and not something that can be achieved successfully in a short time," he said.

Zhang also believes that the J-31 jet is too heavy.

Meanwhile, Teal Group analyst Richard Aboulafia said prospects for the J-31 jet's export market are not as positive as many have described.

Aboulafia said countries buying Chinese military hardware are mainly poor, with Pakistan the largest customer, and China may have to find new clients for the higher-end fifth-generation fighters. These new clients are most likely China's neighbors, but these countries will have their doubts about Beijing given the tensions existing between them, Aboulafia added.

Moreover, the fifth-generation jets may have already come too late, since the US Air Force and Navy have both begun plans to develop their next-generation fighters to replace the F-22 and F/A-18E/F, respectively.

J-31 stealth jet gets bad reviews after Zhuhai Airshow flight｜WantChinaTimes.com

And by 2030, 5th gen fighters would be passe! 6/7th gen fighters are already in the works! And most would be pilot-less, controlled from ops rooms hundreds of miles away with full situational awareness of the operators ('pilots').

Want China Times is an anti Chinese BS source.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

@Horus & @Zarvan Do you think considering the current situation of Pakistan and India, it would be possible to drop the idea of getting the J-31?
Keep this in view
Still we can only see one aircraft has been made and the next one is going through various modifications.