AVIC Presents FC-31 Stealth Fighter model to Pakistan Air Force Chief.

[TheFlyingPretzel]

Indian MIG 25 flies over Islamabad undetected.


It is understood that in May 1997 an Indian Air Force MiG-25RB overflew Pakistan. The aircraft entered Pakinstani airspace sub-sonically at around 65,000ft and was undetected. Then having overflown and photographed strategic installations near the capital, Islamabad, the

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aircraft turned back towards India. Perhaps to rub Pakistani’s noses in it, the Foxbat pilot decided to accelerate up to Mach 2 and dropped a large sonic boom as he exited Pakistani airspace. A number of Pakistani F-16As were scrambled, but had insufficient time to make an effective intercept. In 1991, India and Pakistan signed the ‘Prevention of Airspace Violations’ agreement, but as is so often the case with international agreements, when it suits one side to ignore them, then that’s exactly what they do.

India tried that again in 2008, and made a complete fool of itself.

@Windjammer's thread:

2 Indian Su-30 MkI ingressed in the Lahore sector, Pakistan's second most important city after Karachi. 3 Indian Mirage 2000H ingressed in the Kashmir sector. The Su-30 Mki "FLANKER" were intercepted by 3 F-16s and 3 F-7 combat aircraft from the Pakistan Air Force, while the Mirage 2000Hs were intercepted by 2 F-16s and 2 Mirages The intercepts were made within 4 miles of entering Pakistani territory, and the intruders were escorted out of Pakistani airspace. According to the PAF, the Indian aircraft were fully armed.​

The Day PAF Routed Out IAF

Fully armed and they made it 4 miles. Lol. Pitiful. Our pigeons go further.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

India tried that again in 2008, and made a complete fool of itself.

@Windjammer's thread:

The Day PAF Routed Out IAF

If PAF would have shot them down these internet warriors would have been sitting quite.

 

[cerberus]

If PAF would have shot them down these internet warriors would have been sitting quite.

If reverse was happened, results will be same denial.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Few things here....

* the air chief asked for advanced sensor fusion + avionics aesa and weapons for jft. The j-31 offer came from avic head and at very friendly terms, yeah we know this part

* actually the PLAN has shown interest n j-31 even before us, more so because they love Shenyang aircrafts and already operating plethora of J-11, 15, 16 etc.

* likely timeline of delivery should be 2022-24 in the Ernest.

What kind of sensor fusion?

Few things here....

* the air chief asked for advanced sensor fusion + avionics aesa and weapons for jft. The j-31 offer came from avic head and at very friendly terms, yeah we know this part

* actually the PLAN has shown interest n j-31 even before us, more so because they love Shenyang aircrafts and already operating plethora of J-11, 15, 16 etc.

* likely timeline of delivery should be 2022-24 in the Ernest.

What kind of sensor fusion?

 

[Mutakalim]

But what's commendable is how they keep the corruption out of defence procurement.

Not completely true.
Corruption is there in every sector. But it is not at that level as it is in civil sector.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

any news about this ??

 

[Green Angel]

We should also buy atleast one squardarn of J-10B,untill we get JF-17 Block 3 or J-31,for covering the time period in manufacturing of these two jets.

 

[Djinn]

Because it wont be operational before it. A 100KN engine will be needed to make it supercruise.

Two RD93's produces upto 100 kN dry thrust. It may already be capable of attaining super cruise.

 

[Indus Falcon]

I will repeat, PAF has no serious procurement ahead, they will be funded if they require this jet in the future. Tri services cooperate with each other for strategic purchases. The Jordanian Sixteens were paid off by GHQ, the Navy's subs and frigates are paid for partially by Army and PAF. If your argument is taken on board then the Navy with only $950 million should never be able to afford a 6 billion dollar purchase.

@That Guy You were arguing with me on another thread about the Jordanian F16's. Kindly read the above statement, re-read it, and then again re-read it. Thank You!

 

[Hyperion]

You just short circuited most of my neurons! Damn........

because China manufactures parts for F-35 and has been transferred the technology.

 

[Transhumanist]

You just short circuited most of my neurons! Damn........

It's also untrue. The US, during 2012-2013 did wave laws concerning the use of Chinese manufactured magnets in its F-35 program, but that is no longer ongoing.

Chinese magnets for the new warplane's radar system, landing gears and other hardware.

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The waivers apply to inexpensive parts, including $2 magnets, installed on 115 F-35 test, training and production aircraft, the last of which are due to be delivered in May 2014. Lawmakers noted that several U.S. companies make similar magnets.

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"There was never any risk of technology transfer or other security breach associated with these manufacturing compliance issues,'' he said. "The JPO is working with industry to put in place long-term solutions to avoid the need for future waivers.''

Magnets. That's it. It wasn't anything more than magnets.

US put China-made parts in F-35 fighter program

Regarding J-31 being a copy of F-35 is not true because China manufactures parts for F-35 and has been transferred the technology.

No. See the above. There is no evidence of tech transfer or the production of any items other than magnets. As noted, that is no longer ongoing and has been ceased as of 2013.

If "tech transfer" is a reference to espionage, I've explained that too:

US Navy researching firing Mach 5 guided rounds from standard deck guns

 

[Indus Falcon]

@Horus Can you confirm or deny, the following about the FC31:

1) Fiber Optic bus

2) EM Shielding

Already has it, or will have it. Heard it from a very reliable Chinese "friend."

Thank You!

 

[Windjammer]

Khalistan includes your one and only working state under Pakistani writ called "Punjab" as well.
Anyway all can best in the world pilots could manage was a single bomb which landed kms away from main city while Karachi was burning down to the ground. So much for the harassment

Frankly we never ever had to mount assault on any temple in our Punjab.
And since you are mixing Apples and Oranges, do Pathankot, Kalaikunda , Dwarka and off course Okha ring any bells.

 

[MastanKhan]

India expected the T-50 from Russia to be inducted by 2020.......so how is that going?
Pakistan has moved at inducting platforms at lighting speed compared to India. So keep you non-sense out of this. 50 JF-17s is hell a lot better than failed Tejas......how many have they inducted in the 30 year period it has been worked upon?

Hi,

The T50 is in a shit load of trouble-----

Forget it windjammed it's hard to match your iq.

Hey maestro----disagree with someone---not an issue---but don't make fun of no one's name----OK.

 

[Indus Falcon]

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Frankly we never ever had to mount assault on any temple in our Punjab.
And since you are mixing Apples and Oranges, do Pathankot, Kalaikunda , Dwarka and off course Okha ring any bells.

@Windjammer : What happened at Pathankot, Kaliakunda, Dwarka and Okha ?