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Avalanche traps about 150 Pakistani soldiers

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Any more news now, media is absolutely mum about it, BBC and CNN have given more coverage than these Pakistani channels. Zardari is on a private visit, nothing gonna come out of that, but why the hype?

I am disappointed with media approach, they couldn't made it till now, I v learnt that this place has road access
 
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Apr. 7, 2012

Pakistani Army Races to Reach Avalanche-Buried Soldiers


The Pakistan Army has raced to rescue any survivors of a huge avalanche which it says has buried more than 100 soldiers at a base in Pakistani-administered Kashmir

The avalanche took place at 6:00 a.m. local time April 4. The base, situated in the Gayari district, is near the Siachen Glacier in the Karakorum mountains separating Pakistan from China. Avalanches do occur in the region and regularly claim lives. However, this latest avalanche is unprecedented both in scale and location.

Avalanches normally occur near forward posts inhabited by far fewer troops and have killed a great many over the years. The rescue effort is underway but is hampered by difficult conditions.

Brian Cloughley, an analyst and former Australian defense attaché to Islamabad, is familiar with some of the conditions found in the region.

“Life is harsh at these altitudes, and rescue operations will experience difficulties we can only imagine,” he said.

The rescuers will face considerable challenges not only from the weather, but altitude-related fatigue and danger of further avalanches, Cloughey said.

“Use of helicopters creates reverberating noise, which could trigger another slide, yet it is essential they be employed to move rescue teams around and get any survivors out of the area quickly,” he said. “That’s a very difficult decision, but I think we can rely on the commanders on the ground to decide what is best for their soldiers.”

The Pakistani Army relies on the Mi-17 ‘Hip’ for most of its high altitude operations. At higher elevations, the Army employs the AS350 Ecureuil/Squirrel, and Eurocopter AS355 Ecureuil 2, which have taken over from the venerable SA 315B Lama.

Speed is of the essence, Cloughey said, but will be tempered by the effects high altitude has on the human body.

“The main thing is to get people digging down, because there could well be some people trapped in pockets of air, but that is much easier said than done,” he said.

“Where do you start? And you just can’t whip in reinforcements, because they won’t be acclimatized, so all the work has got to be done by those already in position — and it is extremely tiring to undertake physical labor at that height.”

The trapped soldiers are from the Northern Light Infantry, which played a prominent part in the 1999 fighting that raged between Indian and Pakistani forces around the Line of Control bisecting Kashmir between Pakistan and India near the town of Kargil.

The Siachen Glacier is the location of the world’s highest battlefield. Pakistani and Indian troops have faced-off and occasionally clashed at altitudes as high as 22,000 feet since Indian troops occupied the heights overlooking the glacier in 1984.

Pakistani Army Races to Reach Avalanche-Buried Soldiers | Defense News | defensenews.com
 
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A quick search on the internet shows that ice penetrating radars are available for 1000 $
I wonder if Army is using any of these for accurate positioning or just randevouz?

www.icefield.yk.ca/ice-penetrating-radar-systems.html
 
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They are civilians of the area, there is a village nearby..

Army personnel have still not got close to the bottom, just shows how tough it is to dig the snow, work also continued at night I believe, and still nothing.

It's 80 foot thick means something close to eight storey building composted of snow and a lot of rock solid ice. Lets pray for a mirical to see all of them, most of them or at least some of them alive among their loved ones.
 
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I still maintain...even though we are rivals..IA on the other side of border are the nearest and best Equipped to help Pakistani forces. If Pakistan would not ask for help, at least India could have offered them help..
 
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Nothing on the media, except for the big white teeth of Zardari.
 
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Nothing on the media, except for the big white teeth of Zardari.

Along with his ifrngee son (Chair Person of PPP)

There may be many who are in PPP for as long as the age of that ifrngee and even longer than this ifrngee, but this lad is chair person of the party.

This is Pakistan's democracy.
 
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A quick search on the internet shows that ice penetrating radars are available for 1000 $
I wonder if Army is using any of these for accurate positioning or just randevouz?

Ice Penetrating Radar Systems

But these only measure thickness. The biggest problem is that this avalanch comes with immense force and sweeps and throws everything which comes in it's way. Even if one has exact GPS positions of buildings, the chances are very less that they exist there now. Yep, if something constructed underground may be there.
 
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RIP to those soldiers who died

may god bless your soul brave soldiers :pakistan:


i hope some will survive avalanche
 
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I am really really sad for this disaster which befallen our Pakistani brothers :( Hang in there and Allah will bring his faraj soon Inshallah :(
 
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Conflict there began in 1984 when India occupied the heights of the 78-kilometer (49-mile)-long glacier, fearing Pakistan wanted to claim the territory. Pakistan also deployed its troops. Both armies remain entrenched despite the cease-fire, costing the poverty-stricken countries many millions of dollars each year.

Pakistani troops dig for 135 missing in avalanche
 
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this is pathetic, we all expected some break throughs and some news coming but its the same from last night
 
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