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You are correct that "patriotic" Indian forums like Bharat Rakshak and Defence Forum India are not really intellectual and cosmopolitan places. Even I being an Indian would find it poisonous to be there. Why do you want PDF to be their equivalent ?

I come to PDF for its diversity of membership and for its range of discussion.
Although replying to an old post, the "toxic part" might be true as most veterans and nationalists in India are right wing leaning but intellectual part, PDF's technical incompetency and loose discipline is the reason why Indian forums look better. There are specific threads many Indian and British forums if you really want to troll, those are just for trolling and vital threads are quite fluently have most knowledge reposited.

Just randomly open any thread on PDF and compare that to Defence Forum India or Bharat Rakshak, you will get the difference. PDF at best has some "opinions" in a "good thread" mostly full of personal attacks and unsolicited predictions. Problem lies with PDF only though since moderation is kept loose to maintain traffic from international members.

You will get proper reports, data, discussion limited to technical aspects strictly with "reliable" sources on D.F.I., BR or even Chinese SDF and Russian military forum. I don't think keeping Indians and Pakistanis or any nationalities on one singke forum works out great for any forum unless you are in for traffic and ready to compromise quality.

Indian forums have most Indians and few Chinese (founding members) as regular posters while others sometimes pop out during events. It's sufficient to maintain peace. Forums are not democracies and quality is more important than diverse keyboard wars.

Given what Pakistanis make here of every Indian thread, gaumut, RSS, Sanghi without any real argument, it's better Indian forums remain without Pakistanis. There has been more objective discussion on Pakistan itself by Indians. Keeping Pakistanis will always include ego wars and purpose of thread will take the backseat.
I login PDF out of curiosity and fun, without expecting any productive debates (haven't got more than one or two barely).
 
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You will get proper reports, data, discussion limited to technical aspects strictly with "reliable" sources on D.F.I., BR or even Chinese SDF and Russian military forum. I don't think keeping Indians and Pakistanis or any nationalities works out great for any forum unless you are in for traffic and ready to compromise quality.

Well, PDF allows for general topics as well whereas BR and D.F.I are generally reliable, as you put it, on military technical matters. This is because the membership is already assumed to be mostly right-wing Indian.

Whereas on PDF, because of diversity of opinion, one has to start again and again explaining the basis of a certain topic.
 
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Anyone who doesn’t adhere to the teachings of Vlad Țepeș should be banned.
 
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PDF at best has some "opinions" in a "good thread" mostly full of personal attacks and unsolicited predictions.
Very right.y brought out. Few flags are allowed profanity and full use of abusive language and demeaning remarks against few religions specifically Hindus. If you object to it, the next comment is asking you to leave this forum.
 
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For far too long these dirty indians have been allowed to post fake garbage news on this forum. These people need to be banned from this forum.
Same goes for WuMao gang that is doing the same as well.
 
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Well, PDF allows for general topics as well whereas BR and D.F.I are generally reliable, as you put it, on military technical matters. This is because the membership is already assumed to be mostly right-wing Indian.

Mostly military veterans*. Then, there are some doctors, engineers in PSUs or aspiring of becoming so. Their topic knowledge and nationalistic bias is obvious and any of those "right wing trolls" is able to put down experts of PDF here. Urban Indians with higher education are usually more likely to be nationalistic than rural folks living in Gandhi's pacifist Utopia (the reason why BJP wins in cities mostly and fluctuates in remote areas). Case of India's "right wing" is a bit different from elsewhere in world where usually left is educated and right is not. Indian right wing is more organised and diverse than a right wing usually is.


As far as general topics are concerned, fielding Indian "right wings" against Pakistanis and creating a false balance is too unfair. Pakistan is a theocracy, simply a "right wing country" itself by definition.

India is a liberal federation with so many ideologies communism, socialism, capitalism, nationalism, globalism etc. amalgated in one national union with completely different identity and goals. India's "right wing" are more "liberal" are Pakistani "left" itself if you try enlist all the laws, bills and political positions from them. A Pakistani discussion will be a reflection of what Muslim thinks while Indian debates and discussion are an amalgamation of what you will look in any other free country.

Whereas on PDF, because of diversity of opinion, one has to start again and again explaining the basis of a certain topic.

Any diversity of opinion is useless without quality just as opinion of a street boy is useless against an intellectual. We people around world have their confirmation biases on nationality. Seriously, if diverse opinions hasn't stopped mud sliding against each other by citizens of various countries and not brought them on a technical sound discussion table, it was useless. The very purpose of keeping so many country watch forums on PDF was traffic at first place.

If I was born a Pakistani, I too would obviously find reasons to justify India's partition, blame Hindus for some massacre, try to mock them and give examples of China, US or EU if Pak doesn't stand, their everything is foreign paintjob and vice versa an Indian nationalist would feel moral superiority saying "this was our land", Pak is theocracy India isn't, Pak hasn't this and that things (ignoring the fact that Pakistan is too small to have diverse industry like India). Obviously posting some poverty pictures of each other to reflect each other as a dystopia and so forth depending upon my nationality and nature.

D.F.I. and PDF have their own perspectives. Pakistan is an Islamic state with smaller size and low end industries, identity issues with India and hyphenates itself with those in middle east, talking about "region". India is a relatively larger and stable state with upper hand in these issues, has other kind of issues. Ego becomes naturally large (just as it would have become after being born in an even privileged state like US or China) and range of topics to discuss usually goes upto East Asia, Europe, Americas as Bangladesh and Pak aren't proportionally as interesting topic in India than India is in them.

Tribalism is human nature, religious, nationalist, political etc.. Everyone thinks they are right for their own reasons. Why not ignore each other if can't have peace? Even Indians complaining of biased moderation on PDF are stupid. Why? It's their forum.

I'm only a lurker here and barely participate in thread if I find a good post to reply. Was even banned once for not any violation but because probably my opinion was offensive towards existence of Pakistani state.
 
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India is a liberal federation with so many ideologies communism, socialism, capitalism, nationalism, globalism etc. amalgated in one national union with completely different identity and goals. India's "right wing" are liberal are Pakistani "left" itself if you try enlist all the laws, bills and political positions from them. A Pakistani discussion will be a reflection of what Muslim thinks while Indian debates and discussion are an amalgamation of what you will look in any other free country.
You write so well. You have conveyed so much with so few words. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
 
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Urban Indians with higher education are usually more likely to be nationalistic than rural folks living in Gandhi's pacifist Utopia (the reason why BJP wins in cities mostly and fluctuates in remote areas). Case of India's "right wing" is a bit different from elsewhere in world where usually left is educated and right is not. Indian right wing is more organised and diverse than a right wing usually is.

You are correct that much of the right-wing vote bank in India is the supposedly educated middle class but rural India is anything but pacifist and gentle. I will reply to your post in longer form tomorrow.
 
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You are correct that much of the right-wing vote bank in India is the supposedly educated middle class but rural India is anything but pacifist and gentle. I will reply to your post in longer form tomorrow.
Waiting yet.
 
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Waiting yet.

I think what I wanted to write was presence in rural India of mob violence against leopards who stray into villages, caste crime, honor crime and economic crimes like farmer suicides and bonded labor. Maybe other things too. Certainly not pacifist, gentle and harmonious places.
 
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