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BBC News - Austria passes controversial reforms to 1912 Islam law

The Austrian parliament has passed controversial reforms to the country's century-old law on Islam.

The bill, which is partly aimed at tackling Islamist radicalism, gives Muslims more legal security but bans foreign funding for mosques and imams.

Austria's Integration Minister, Sebastian Kurz, defended the reforms but Muslim leaders say they fail to treat them equally.

The 1912 law made Islam an official religion in Austria.

It has been widely held up as a model for Europe in dealing with Islam.

The new measures, first proposed three years ago, include the protection of religious holidays and training for imams.

But Muslim groups say the ban on foreign funding is unfair as international support is still permitted for the Christian and Jewish faiths.

They say the legalisation reflects a widespread mistrust of Muslims and some are planning to contest it in the constitutional court.

Mr Kurz told the BBC the reforms were a "milestone" for Austria and aimed to stop certain Muslim countries using financial means to exert "political influence".

"What we want is to reduce the political influence and control from abroad and we want to give Islam the chance to develop freely within our society and in line with our common European values," he said.

Mr Kurz also stressed the bill was not a reaction to recent attacks by Islamic extremists in France and Denmark.

Meanwhile the legislation has drawn wide reaction from Muslims across the world, with Turkey's head of religious affairs, Mehmet Gormez, adding his condemnation on Tuesday.

"Austria will go back 100 years in freedom with its Islam bill," Mr Gormez said, according to Turkey's state-funded Anadolu news agency.

Roughly half a million Muslims live in Austria today, around 6% of the population. Many of them have Turkish or Bosnian roots.

The parliamentary vote in Austria came as the French government announced plans to improve dialogue with France's Muslim community.

French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the government would increase consultations with Muslim leaders.

It would also double the number of university courses for imams - making them obligatory for Islamic chaplains in prisons and the armed forces - to ensure they are "faithful to the values of the Republic", he said.
 
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Won't hold up in court. I don't think banning foreign funding is the way to go, rather it should be heavily regulated and monitored. This goes for all places of worship, not jus masjids.
 
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Yes, don't single out islam. if you are banning funding , ban it for all religions.
 
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Yes, don't single out islam. if you are banning funding , ban it for all religions.


Other followers don't commit terrorist attacks in the name of their religion.Equality must come from respecting the laws first .If catholics would take hostages in the name of God,His Son and the Holy Spirit it would have been wise to ban funds from the Vatican.As they don't do that,the discussion is moot.You're only handling a problem where such a problem exists,you're not doing it just not to hurt feelings.People have to be practical and in the end why should others suffer when only one is causing problems ?
 
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Other followers don't commit terrorist attacks in the name of their religion.Equality must come from respecting the laws first .If catholics would take hostages in the name of God,His Son and the Holy Spirit it would have been wise to ban funds from the Vatican.As they don't do that,the discussion is moot.You're only handling a problem where such a problem exists,you're not doing it just not to hurt feelings.People have to be practical and in the end why should others suffer when only one is causing problems ?
Except they do. It's easy to forget groups like the LRA or the the KKK, both of whom use religion as a justification and recruiting tool. Heck, even in the current Ukraine war, religion is being used.

Don't act all high and mighty. Don't ignore facts.
 
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Except they do. It's easy to forget groups like the LRA or the the KKK, both of whom use religion as a justification and recruiting tool. Heck, even in the current Ukraine war, religion is being used.

Don't act all high and mighty. Don't ignore facts.


In Australia ? Why do you always have to change the subject and refer to Western Wars,things that have happened in the past when we are talking about a particular case ?

And,as far as i know the groups you've mentioned were adressed in their countries.
 
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Other followers don't commit terrorist attacks in the name of their religion.Equality must come from respecting the laws first .If catholics would take hostages in the name of God,His Son and the Holy Spirit it would have been wise to ban funds from the Vatican.As they don't do that,the discussion is moot.You're only handling a problem where such a problem exists,you're not doing it just not to hurt feelings.People have to be practical and in the end why should others suffer when only one is causing problems ?
Anders Behring Breivik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and his 1500 page Christian manifesto? Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf? Spanish Inquisition?
 
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Anders Behring Breivik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and his 1500 page Christian manifesto? Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf? Spanish Inquisition?

1.Breivik-1 case and he acted alone....1 case and his manifesto isn't read by priests world wide in churches

2.Spanish Inquisition-do you have a time machine so we can go 500 years back in time and resolve that issue ?

3.Hitler saw christianity as "weak"...the same with number 2 also.
 
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In Australia ? Why do you always have to change the subject and refer to Western Wars,things that have happened in the past when we are talking about a particular case ?

And,as far as i know the groups you've mentioned were adressed in their countries.
Australia? Where did I mention Australia? Do you not know whom the LRA or the KKK are?

I'm not changing the subject. You made a ridiculous claim, and I refuted it using current and historical examples. Don't pretend that I'm somehow the one who's wrong here, when you constantly make ridiculous claims all the time.
 
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1.Breivik-1 case and he acted alone....1 case and his manifesto isn't read by priests world wide in churches

2.Spanish Inquisition-do you have a time machine so we can go 500 years back in time and resolve that issue ?

3.Hitler saw christianity as "weak"...the same with number 2 also.
1. Terrorists act alone too. If 1.5 billion muslims decided to take up arms, no one can stop them.

2. Just pointing out that Christianity is used for terrorism too.

3. Sure. Quote from Mein Kampf: ""Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.""
 
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Australia? Where did I mention Australia? Do you not know whom the LRA or the KKK are?

I'm not changing the subject. You made a ridiculous claim, and I refuted it. Don't pretend that I'm somehow the one who's wrong here, when you constantly make ridiculous claims all the time.


What ridiculous claims ? We're talking about Australia here and you went around the globe searching for an excuse as you ussually do.

1. Terrorists act alone too. If 1.5 billion muslims decided to take up arms, no one can stop them.

2. Just pointing out that Christianity is used for terrorism too.

3. Sure. Quote from Mein Kampf: ""Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.""


1.Oh,they could be stopped,rest asure.

2.Yes,it is,it was.That's why it was reformed.Currently,in this topic we're talking about Australia and people are not commiting terrorist acts in the name of Christianity in Australia.

3.See number 2.
 
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What ridiculous claims ? We're talking about Australia here and you went around the globe searching for an excuse as you ussually do.
This thread is about Austria, not Australia. You said, and I quote "Other followers don't commit terrorist attacks in the name of their religion", which I refuted; your comment did not mention a particular nation and Austria hasn't had a big problem with religion extremism, so your entire comment is poorly thought out. By the way, that is a direct quote from you, so don't you dare try and spin this, the proof is there for everyone to see.
 
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This thread is about Austria, not Australia. You said, and I quote "Other followers don't commit terrorist attacks in the name of their religion", which I refuted; your comment did not mention a particular nation and Austria hasn't had a big problem with religion extremism, so your entire comment is poorly thought out. By the way, that is a direct quote from you, so don't you dare try and spin this, the proof is there for everyone to see.


lol ,I''ve actually read Australia,and i ussually get a kick from Austria/Australia jokes.:lol:

Austria,just like Germany has a problem with religious extremism just that their law enforcement agencies have thus far managed to prevent attacks.They did operate arrests though in the last years.And yes,my point stands,we're talking about current events affecting some countries not what a nutjob did in Uganda.

Police storm mosques in Austria and arrest 13 Islamic extremists accused of recruiting terrorists to fight in Iraq and Syria | Daily Mail Online

Well,well,looks like a mosque was used as a recruitment center.......silly,silly claims from me.

Just because people haven't been killed yet doesn't mean they shouldn't act.

And again...i was on topic talking about Australia,lol...but it's the same in Austria as i've pointed out.It's not my problem what you understood,i was on topic.Focus on the topic and don't build false claims
 
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