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Australian universities are too reliant on income from China, experts say
Feb 16 2018 at 4:25 PM
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China accounts for a third of foreign students in Australia or about $9 billion in export income.

Amid escalating tension over Chinese students in Australia, universities have again been criticised from within their own ranks for being too dependent on one country for overseas students.

This week for the second time in as many months Beijing issued a "Study Abroad Alert" warning about attacks on Chinese students in Australia.

The criticism being levelled at them by university China experts. Associate professor at La Trobe university, James Leibold said Australian universities rely too heavily on income from Chinese students. He said by deterring people from coming to Australia for education, Beijing has a massive tap it can turn off when it wants.

The Communist Party is angry at Australian criticism of China's expansion in the South China Sea and at proposed foreign interference laws which are largely directed at the People's Republic.

"If Beijing took out tourism and international students combined it would have a massive impact on the Australian economy.

"Beijing is very good at finding pressure points. It is a serious global power playing the long game. The Chinese government does have a great deal of control over the society.

"Australian unis have done a poor job of trying to engage with Chinese students. They've taken their money and washed their hands of them."

Professor Clive Hamilton from Charles Sturt University said any company board would ask severe questions of a CEO if the company became as dependent on one risky market as Australian universities had become on China.

He said uni vice chancellors should admit they have become over reliant in their "pursuit of the glitter of Chinese gold".

More seriously in tapping the China market, he said, universities had compromised academic freedoms.

Beijing has been accused of interfering in Australian teaching programs through pressure brought to bear by organisations such as the Chinese Students and Scholars Association. At one CSSA event on a domestic campus students were told to watch out for activists from Tibet, Xinjian, Taiwan, Falun Gong and democracy.

China accounts for a third of foreign students in Australia or about $9 billion in export income.

The new chair of the Group of Eight universities, Professor Ian Jacobs, who is also vice chancellor of the University of New South Wales, said right now the largest demand from foreign students is coming from China and Australian universities are proud to respond.


He said he would leave it to others to address the geopolitics. But foreign students contributed to domestic campuses, they could handle student life as they wished and created benefits for Australia when they returned home, through trade and dialogue.

Responding to Beijing's allegation that its students were not safe in Australia, Professor Jacobs said domestic campuses were safer than just about anywhere in the world.

On the question of being over-dependent on the China market, he said as time passes the focus will probably change.

"Demand for Australian education from India is growing. We will respond to that because it is a great opportunity for Australia to have an impact."

http://www.afr.com/news/policy/educ...income-from-china-experts-say-20180215-h0w6vn
 
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This article is stupid.

Australian University depends on Local Australian Student when almost 60 to 70% of allotment is allocated to Local Student (Scholarship + HECS + Full fee). Just because local student is subsidized by the government does not mean the demand is not strong. Australian Education loses some of their appeal to international student when they delink permanent residence with University Education in 2008.

On the other hand, International Student pay as much as a Non-HECS local student, but an university by law can only take 30% of them in all discipline, and even all of them are Chinese (which is obviously not going to be the case)

The impact is not as much as the article want people to think, the article however, is obvious that the writer wanted Australian University to diverse their enrolment regarding international student.



Australian universities are too reliant on income from China, experts say
Feb 16 2018 at 4:25 PM
1518758724752.jpg

China accounts for a third of foreign students in Australia or about $9 billion in export income.

Amid escalating tension over Chinese students in Australia, universities have again been criticised from within their own ranks for being too dependent on one country for overseas students.

This week for the second time in as many months Beijing issued a "Study Abroad Alert" warning about attacks on Chinese students in Australia.

The criticism being levelled at them by university China experts. Associate professor at La Trobe university, James Leibold said Australian universities rely too heavily on income from Chinese students. He said by deterring people from coming to Australia for education, Beijing has a massive tap it can turn off when it wants.

The Communist Party is angry at Australian criticism of China's expansion in the South China Sea and at proposed foreign interference laws which are largely directed at the People's Republic.

"If Beijing took out tourism and international students combined it would have a massive impact on the Australian economy.

"Beijing is very good at finding pressure points. It is a serious global power playing the long game. The Chinese government does have a great deal of control over the society.

"Australian unis have done a poor job of trying to engage with Chinese students. They've taken their money and washed their hands of them."

Professor Clive Hamilton from Charles Sturt University said any company board would ask severe questions of a CEO if the company became as dependent on one risky market as Australian universities had become on China.

He said uni vice chancellors should admit they have become over reliant in their "pursuit of the glitter of Chinese gold".

More seriously in tapping the China market, he said, universities had compromised academic freedoms.

Beijing has been accused of interfering in Australian teaching programs through pressure brought to bear by organisations such as the Chinese Students and Scholars Association. At one CSSA event on a domestic campus students were told to watch out for activists from Tibet, Xinjian, Taiwan, Falun Gong and democracy.

China accounts for a third of foreign students in Australia or about $9 billion in export income.

The new chair of the Group of Eight universities, Professor Ian Jacobs, who is also vice chancellor of the University of New South Wales, said right now the largest demand from foreign students is coming from China and Australian universities are proud to respond.


He said he would leave it to others to address the geopolitics. But foreign students contributed to domestic campuses, they could handle student life as they wished and created benefits for Australia when they returned home, through trade and dialogue.

Responding to Beijing's allegation that its students were not safe in Australia, Professor Jacobs said domestic campuses were safer than just about anywhere in the world.

On the question of being over-dependent on the China market, he said as time passes the focus will probably change.

"Demand for Australian education from India is growing. We will respond to that because it is a great opportunity for Australia to have an impact."

http://www.afr.com/news/policy/educ...income-from-china-experts-say-20180215-h0w6vn
 
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This article is stupid.

Australian University depends on Local Australian Student when almost 60 to 70% of allotment is allocated to Local Student (Scholarship + HECS + Full fee). Just because local student is subsidized by the government does not mean the demand is not strong. Australian Education loses some of their appeal to international student when they delink permanent residence with University Education in 2008.

On the other hand, International Student pay as much as a Non-HECS local student, but an university by law can only take 30% of them in all discipline, and even all of them are Chinese (which is obviously not going to be the case)

The impact is not as much as the article want people to think, the article however, is obvious that the writer wanted Australian University to diverse their enrolment regarding international student.
That is not just it. The Money that the Chinese students spend when they are studying in Australia is way higher than the average Australian spend.
 
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That is not just it. The Money that the Chinese students spend when they are studying in Australia is way higher than the average Australian spend.

You mean tuition fee or stuff that Chinese student spend in Australia?

Cos tuition fee is not much of a different between a full fee Australian and an International (maybe a few hundred per subject less if you are a local) and Chinese in Australia don't really spend much in Australia unless they have to, unless they are very rich. Which most of these people won't be study in Australia.....
 
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First of all, people need to understand that the fee structure for Local students and International students is very different. International students pay much higher fees here. Local students get government loans and pay them off through their tax deductions once they start working. So the universities here always prefer International students due to instant cash benefits.

The international students are a cash cow for the Unis. But the question is why the F* would international students pay so much fee for an education that is nothing special?? Why??
 
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First of all, people need to understand that the fee structure for Local students and International students is very different. International students pay much higher fees here. Local students get government loans and pay them off through their tax deductions once they start working. So the universities here always prefer International students due to instant cash benefits.

The international students are a cash cow for the Unis. But the question is why the F* would international students pay so much fee for an education that is nothing special?? Why??
Deep pockets and shallow brains.
 
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You mean tuition fee or stuff that Chinese student spend in Australia?

Cos tuition fee is not much of a different between a full fee Australian and an International (maybe a few hundred per subject less if you are a local) and Chinese in Australia don't really spend much in Australia unless they have to, unless they are very rich. Which most of these people won't be study in Australia.....
There are tax benefits, educational benefits the government pays for an Australian citizen. And the students from other countries are not entitled to it.
 
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Australian universities are a fraud as far as international students are concerned.
 
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There are tax benefits, educational benefits the government pays for an Australian citizen. And the students from other countries are not entitled to it.

Well, there aren't any tax benefit I am aware of (I have HECS debt myself) and the AusAid is not as big as you think, around 800 bucks a month, the same money I would have got if I did not go to University and get New Start Allowance.

The only privilege I got is student fare in NSW, and that's honestly crap.
 
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Well, there aren't any tax benefit I am aware of (I have HECS debt myself) and the AusAid is not as big as you think, around 800 bucks a month, the same money I would have got if I did not go to University and get New Start Allowance.

The only privilege I got is student fare in NSW, and that's honestly crap.
I was discussing with my CEO on this matter he said the student when employed part-time in a company then the company can claim the pay for 20 hours a week in tax benefits and it is optional for the student to file taxes.
This is in VIC.
 
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I was discussing with my CEO on this matter he said the student when employed part-time in a company then the company can claim the pay for 20 hours a week in tax benefits and it is optional for the student to file taxes.
This is in VIC.

In Australia (All States), individual do not file tax, all tax is done by the company, so if and when there are tax benefit, it goes into the Employer pocket instead of the worker.

And everyone work for an Australian company can claim tax offset. So, it wasn't just an international student thing, in fact, if you are talking about the tax break for employer, then hiring an Australian student would get you more tax break in an employer point of view.
 
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