Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

[Najam Khan]

Rehman Malik is the world's biggest j@cK @$$

Yes, moments after the incident he starts claiming it Al Qaeda's work. Even by mid of next day he was saying same crap...the question is simple what is his source.. dead terrorists? i he knows its coming...where the F was his law enforcement agencies?

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

That still makes it 6. 2 + 2 + rest (2 according to Rehman Malik) = 6 So how is it 11 or 12. And you are not even sure it is 11 or 12.

our stupid interior minister issued the stupid statement that they were 6 (without confirming). But they were 12, as mentioned by all tv channels. .

 

[monitor]

how many of them were is not concern , more important is how could they entered the secured zone ?

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

Yes, moments after the incident he starts claiming it Al Qaeda's work. Even by mid of next day he was saying same crap...the question is simple what is his source.. dead terrorists? i he knows its coming...where the F was his law enforcement agencies?

you can estimate his knowledge on issues by the incident in which an Air Blue aircraft crashed in Islamabad. Malik in his first statement said that some people have survived in that aircraft but later no one was alive. .

 

[JonAsad]

The numbers were more than 6 terrorists- Most probably the rest of them managed to escape- and the face saving exercise is on-

 

[ramu]

our stupid interior minister issued the stupid statement that they were 6 (without confirming). But they were 12, as mentioned by all tv channels. .

Media channels will claim whatever. In the Mumbai incident they exaggerated the numbers, so media is not a reliable source. Any other person who holds a position of responsibility either in the civilian Government or is from the armed forces has given a statement with numbers?

P.S : I just cannot believe 2 escaped after such an audacious attack. How can they escape if all the gates are sealed after the initial assault ? How on earth do the terrorists know ways of dodging the forces in their own den? It clearly smacks of incompetence of the Pakistani forces atleast in this instance.

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

how many of them were is not concern , more important is how could they entered the secured zone ?

that investigation is being carried out. According to some sources there was a sewerage system which they used to enter and the same was used to escape by 2 terrorists. I hope instead of remaining stubborn our forces learn something from this. .

 

[I M Sikander]

our stupid interior minister issued the stupid statement that they were 6 (without confirming). But they were 12, as mentioned by all tv channels. .

TV channels were not even allowed to enter the base, how would they know the exact number. TV persons were doig just speculations, and this is what they always do to earn ratings

 

[LeGenD]

How I wish somebody could forward my msg to the speaker:

Sir, Pakistan is fully aware of who her enemies are, both domestic and foreign. Talibaan were never our enemies, neither are they our enemies today.

What is TTP then? You are only affirming that many Pakistani are still in denial mode.

This is TTP agenda:

TTP ideology reinforces the points laid out in the initial moves announced by the organization upon its formation in December 2007, namely:

1. Enforce sharia.
2. Unite against coalition forces in Afghanistan.
3. Perform defensive jihad against the Pakistani Army.

Source: http://www.diis.dk/graphics/Publications/Reports2010/RP2010-12-Tehrik-e-Taliban_web.pdf

From US state department:

TTP is a Pakistan-based terrorist organization that has claimed responsibility for numerous terrorist acts against Pakistani and U.S. interests. Hakimullah Mehsud has been the leader of TTP since August 2009 and Wali Ur Rehman is the TTP Emir in South Waziristan. Rehman has participated in cross-border attacks in Afghanistan against U.S. and NATO personnel, as well as attacks against Pakistani security forces.

Source: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/09/146545.htm

For additional information: http://www.nctc.gov/site/groups/ttp.html

If you understand the talibaan ideology you will know for a fact that they promote education of men and women alike which destroys your first pathetic lie that they blow up schools.

Really?

Mullah Umar also banned women from working and education under his rule.

Talibaan never blew any place of worship/hospital or shopping markets when they were in power in Afghanistan which exposes your other lies.

Really?

After 1,700 years, Buddhas fall to Taliban dynamite - Telegraph

They did not needed to blow things apart in Afghanistan when they were controlling majority of its land but they still did.

However, schools are being blown up, people slaughtered, women punished barbarically, targeted and random bombings of military installations, places of worship and busy markets killing innocents. But these are being carried out by mercenaries that are hired to pose as Talibaan and to blame every crime against humanity on Talibaan. TTP, mainly responsible for almost 90% of the bombings in Pakistan, are bred, trained, armed and provided intel by some of our closest enemies and some of our closest 'friends'. These TTP mercenaries, mostly illiterate young men/women who are swayed easily by lure of heaven or money for their family, are being used by external anti Pakistan elements. Even our agencies are well aware of it.

Regarding blowing up of schools in Pakistan: learn from history.

And fundings for groups like these also come from some of our so-called arab friends comfortably residing in Middle East:

WikiLeaks cables portray Saudi Arabia as a cash machine for terrorists | World news | The Guardian

Why a full on confrontation is not forthcoming, even yet, is beyond me.

Because of lack of understanding of ground realities (at civilian level), and will to do more in our OWN war on terror (at administration level).

The only thing that I can think is that the US$ to our top military and political hierarchy is more powerful then the pride and nation of Pakistan.

Pakistan is doing very poorly economically. Our nation is dependent on US AID (no matter how much you deny this). Pride and honor comes with self-sufficiency and our country is seriously lacking in this case.

This is why we desperately need the military to cleanse itself from within and then to cleanse the judiciary, bureaucracy, establishment and political system. We most desperately need a military and political establishment that thinks about Pakistan above everything else. We most desperately need to set out our alliances where our interests belong and to weed out the criminals that call themselves our allies and friends!

Sure. However, these changes will take time to implement and would only occur when this nation will manage to put itself in order and do some soul-searching.

 

[jupiter2007]

our stupid interior minister issued the stupid statement that they were 6 (without confirming). But they were 12, as mentioned by all tv channels. .

There were 12 terrorist, one shot himself, 3 terrorist exploded themselves, 2 escaped, 4 were captured and taken to unknown location for interrogation.

 

[DarK-LorD]

Pakistan may acquire Harbin SH-5as replacement though US may offer additional P-3C's.

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

Media channels will claim whatever. In the Mumbai incident they exaggerated the numbers, so media is not a reliable source. Any other person who holds a position of responsibility either in the civilian Government or is from the armed forces has given a statement with numbers?

The claim of 12 terrorists was given by security forces. I think probably by Chief of Naval Staff.

P.S : I just cannot believe 2 escaped after such an audacious attack. How can they escape if all the gates are sealed after the initial assault ? How on earth do the terrorists know ways of dodging the forces in their own den? It clearly smacks of incompetence of the Pakistani forces atleast in this instance.

Its not incompetence; its a stubborn behavior that our armed forces don't learn from their mistakes. .

 

[Bang Galore]

Was raid on Pakistani base an inside job?

Assault in Karachi is one of several attacks in recent years linked to Islamists working within Pakistan's military

Declan Walsh guardian.co.uk, Monday 23 May 2011


The loss of two Orion P-3C aircraft, valued at $36m (£22.3m) each, is a deep blow to Pakistan's military. But the greater worry is how the Islamist fighters who destroyed them accessed the airfield in the first place.

Everything about the assault on Monday, from the methodical tactics to the targeting of sensitive aircraft suggests the attackers used inside information. "It looks like an inside job. That should be the biggest worry for the military – and for all of us," said security analyst Imtiaz Gul.

The spectre of Islamist infiltration has haunted the army for decades. After surviving an assassination bid in 2003 – one orchestrated by air force officers – General Pervez Musharraf purged the superior ranks of known Islamists.

Extremists are still sprinkled within the lower ranks, however, and have been suspected of involvement in several atrocities, such as the 2007 suicide attack on a commando base and the spectacular assault in 2009 on army headquarters in Rawalpindi. Air force officers were arrested for a separate plot against Musharraf in 2006. perpetrators of some attacks have fled to Waziristan, where they find shelter among jihadi groups that allegedly enjoy covert army support.

Something that Rehman Malik said suggest some inside involvement. He said that the attackers entered an area which was a blind spot of the cctv's, if I remember correctly he said about a 30 degree angle where the view of two cameras intersected was a blind spot & that the attackers had carefully planned their entry there. Pretty hard to assume that someone from the attackers just happened to choose that spot randomly to start the attack.

Javed Miandad ??

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

TV channels were not even allowed to enter the base, how would they know the exact number. TV persons were doig just speculations, and this is what they always do to earn ratings

the number 12 was given by security forces!!

 

[I M Sikander]

SSG and navy commandos performance have been pathetic in all terrorists attack. They failed every time with high casualty rate.
During GHQ attack= 6 commandoes were killed in operation and it took 26 hrs to end the operation
In Lal Masjid= 12 SSg persons were killed
PNS Mehran= Just 2 terrorists killed, 2 blew them selves up, 2 got away (16 hrs to clear up)

What the hell is going on, SSG, navy and AF commandos reputation is at stack with every new operation they conduct