Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[Safriz]

Ironic thing is that defence against RPG isnt impossible..
many research articles claim that a wire mesh fence can deform and deshape an RPG and may even detonate it..Even if the RPG passes through,it will get deformed enough to not detonate properly and lose effectiveness...

Two or three layers of This may have come handy.

Goodness, the thread has turned into a sheer rumour mill without any spec of evidence! I stick to what i heard and reported earlier, but i see so many unnecessary posts and even more unnecessary fears creeping people out! Relax a little folks, the moment u see a picture of so called destroyed Saab, then curse PAF as much as you can, till then, take rumours with a pinch of salt.

where were you all this time?

 

[SEAL]

Three points against theory of Indian involvement,

1. Indian intelligence agencies are not that stupid to attack installations that will direct the blame back to India.
2. Indian think tanks are only worried about nuclear assets of Pakistan and the rest focus is currently on China. d
3. Think from angle of TTP, they do not want that Pakistani army start operation on them. Their sworn oath is turn Pakistan into true islamic nation, so they would want Pakistan to focus on its eastern front rather than on western front. So they can choose the targets that can affect India-Pakistan relations badly and turn Pakistani publics opinion from terrorism to India.
TTP has quite succeeded on their plan as seen on 52 pages of this thread, 99% members are blaming India for attack.

Last but not least, Indian leaders are currently focussed on developing country in technological and economical terms.

Insecurity is only for the guilty

 

[MZUBAIR]

Aaj Kamran Khan Kay Sath 16 August 2012 (16-08-2012) Full Pro - YouTube

 

[fatman17]

PAF Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C damaged in Minhas attack

Pakistan’s Minister of Defense, Syed Naveed Qamar, confirmed last night that the PAF aircraft that was damaged in yesterday’s attack on PAF Base Kamra was one of the Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C operated by 3 Squadron. He said that the engineers and technicians from the co-located PAC have now examined the damage to the aircraft and deemed it minor and repairable.

The PAF has four of these aircraft in service with 3 Squadron at Minhas, whilst the unit also flies a standard passenger Saab 2000 as a crew trainer for the type. As reported earlier, the damage incurred by the aircraft was caused by shrapnel from the explosion of a RPG that had been fired at the wall of the hanger in which the Erieye was housed.

AFD

 

[Safriz]

Here is what Nabil has to say..

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/202635-attack-paf-base-minhas-120.html#post3318760

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/202635-attack-paf-base-minhas-121.html#post3318779

 

[timetravel]

Insecurity is only for the guilty

no insecurity. its a forum to keep ur points!!

 

[Safriz]

PAF Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C damaged in Minhas attack

Pakistan’s Minister of Defense, Syed Naveed Qamar, confirmed last night that the PAF aircraft that was damaged in yesterday’s attack on PAF Base Kamra was one of the Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C operated by 3 Squadron. He said that the engineers and technicians from the co-located PAC have now examined the damage to the aircraft and deemed it minor and repairable.

The PAF has four of these aircraft in service with 3 Squadron at Minhas, whilst the unit also flies a standard passenger Saab 2000 as a crew trainer for the type. As reported earlier, the damage incurred by the aircraft was caused by shrapnel from the explosion of a RPG that had been fired at the wall of the hanger in which the Erieye was housed.

AFD

This News report is from horses mouth..
It was a random chat of the Mr.Minister with a news reporter at an "Iftaar party" at Iranian embassy..
It was not an official statement..

The original statement from this guy sounds stupid...
He actually said..

"Some nozzles of SAAB plane were damaged"..
Now where are the NOZZLES in the SAAB 2000?

Read yourself..
http://images.thenews.com.pk/17-08-2012/ethenews/t-16849.htm

ISLAMABAD: A nozzle of an Airborne Warning and Control System (Awacs) aircraft was damaged as a rocket-propelled grenade hit it when terrorists stormed Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Airbase Minhas in Kamra on Thursday. However, the aircraft is repairable, Minister for Defence Syed Naveed Qamar said.
“The engineers and technicians of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex have examined the partially damaged aircraft, and according to the initial report, this most advanced Awacs aircraft of the Saab-2000 category can be repaired,” said the defence minister while talking to The News at an Iftar-dinner hosted by the Iranian ambassador here on Thursday. “A test flight of the aircraft will be conducted after repairing it,” he added.
According to sources, three to four dozen aircraft were present at the airbase when the terrorists launched the attack. Most of these aircraft were brought to Kamra for overhauling and repair.
Syed Naveed Qamar, who was chief guest at the Iftar dinner, said that the Pakistan-Iran friendship should be promoted for the mutual interest of the two countries. He said all avenues would be explored to enhance cooperation between the two countries in the defence sector and all resources would be utilised for this purpose.
He said the Pak-Iran economic cooperation would also be promoted and the Pak-Iran gas pipeline would be completed without any further delay.

 

[Donatello]

lol

ge ge

wo dood peetay buchay hay na

loh jee, yeh kya baat huey?

Mein bhi dood peeta hoon, app nahi peetay?

 

[Dazzler]

Ironic thing is that defence against RPG isnt impossible..
many research articles claim that a wire mesh fence can deform and deshape an RPG and may even detonate it..Even if the RPG passes through,it will get deformed enough to not detonate properly and lose effectiveness...

Two or three layers of This may have come handy.

where were you all this time?

I was observing some panic, some outrageous and many sorrow replies but the fact is, we as a nation, do exult gossip more than the reality. In two days, the thread reached 138+ pages without a single authentic report of Saab being destroyed, some even destroyed two and damaged one, leaving no operational Erieye in PAF

It is a request on my part not to indulge into false news/ rumours before hand, the enemy is succeeding in his mission of demoralizing you whereas the ground reality is otherwise.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

Insecurity is only for the guilty

You are talking of insecurity as if I planned entire operation.

This is open forum, everyone has right to express opinions and agree or disagree on points especially conspiracy theories.

 

[Safriz]

I was observing some panic, some outrageous and many sorrow replies but the fact is, we as a nation, do exult gossip more than the reality. In two days, the thread reached 138+ pages without a single authentic report of Saab being destroyed, some even destroyed two and damaged one, leaving no operational Erieye in PAF

It is a request on my part not to indulge into false news/ rumours before hand, the enemy is succeeding in his mission of demoralizing you whereas the ground reality is otherwise.

It was better if PAF had released an official statement about Erieye..
Obviously all of us are concerned.....and good to read your comment

Although i have to mention here that there are many pages on FB still claiming that one SAAB is damaged.....But without any credible source..

 

[karan.1970]

Insecurity is only for the guilty

And conspiracy theories are for the insecure

 

[Jango]

2 Saabs have been destroyed.

There were three stationed at Kamra, Saabs have never before been stationed at Kamra for a time long enough and that too three together. They are usually in 2 in Chaklala, and 2 somewhere else. This was the first time three were there, and bam. So, the terrorists knew about the movement.

Got off the phone from 3-4 folks, and it is confirmed, the official statement will not come for sometime, until the people forget this.

Now, you may call me a hoax, a stupid man, or whatever.

 

[krash]

An RPG fuse is activated at the point of Impact.
If the point of Impact was Aircraft Hanger wall,the the RPG must have exploded on impact or centimeters inside the breached Hanger..That is if the Hanger was not reinforced as many here suggest....
After that the explosion expands and effectiveness decreases exponentially with distance.

Can such an explosion actually destroy an aircraft?

Interesting question. The pictures below show the most basic form of RPG defense. Its a simple mesh/cage sort of a thing installed to have the RPG trigger before impacting/piercing the actual armor of the vehicle. Our forces in the WOT have been using tree bark wrapped around the apcs for exactly this purpose as well. Now the aircraft had to have been parked a fare distance away from the hanger wall, at least more than the distance between the cage and the armor in the pictures below, and hence the damage could not have been much (even though the bird would not have been armored), provided the RPG round hit the hanger wall face on.

 

[Bratva]

I was observing some panic, some outrageous and many sorrow replies but the fact is, we as a nation, do exult gossip more than the reality. In two days, the thread reached 138+ pages without a single authentic report of Saab being destroyed, some even destroyed two and damaged one, leaving no operational Erieye in PAF

It is a request on my part not to indulge into false news/ rumours before hand, the enemy is succeeding in his mission of demoralizing you whereas the ground reality is otherwise.

Blame the pathetic attiude of PR team of PAF which let the nation demoralize and didnt issued a clarification. Whatever the damage done to whatever platform, if honestly told earleir about the real picture, it would not have allowed the rumour mill to go bersek. Whats the reason of holding back the info?