Attack on Gurudwara Sahib at Derby, suspect arrested by UK

[xeuss]

Few weeks ago when a Sikh Gurudwara was bombed in Afghanistan, Pakistanis went on an over drive to paint that as an Indian False flag operation.

Show remorse when caught red handed else paint it as an Indian False flag - This has been the modus operandi of the Pakistanis.

This is the reason why no Indian takes any Pakistani statements seriously, Even if there were some who were genuinely concerned.

No. It is human nature to be disgusted by any immoral act. That disgust is turned into disbelief when the perpetrator of the act is identified with the same religion/ethnicity/nation as their own. Consequently an attempt is made to provide an excuse or reason for the crime, to somehow convince themselves that this perpetrator does not represent us.

All people behave like this, and frankly it is very immature. Therefore, when people like @waz acknowledge the problem, it is much easier to move forward and build bridges. Otherwise people are stuck in the past blaming unrelated events and entities and that serves no purpose or closure for those that suffer.

That is why the concept of justice is important in societies.

 

[Nilgiri]

Old habit. Once I gave him a BBC link and he claimed it was written by a Jew working for BBC so it is fake news. Just ignore.

Yep that dude is a mental case.... kinda hillarious when I peek at the same drivel he's still spouting nonstop lol

 

[waz]

Guilt by association?

What do you mean?

Why are you apologizing? You are not the spokesperson for a lunatic.

So people hopefully see it, and we hate such filth among our community. This website is widely read.

 

[MayaBazar]

No. It is human nature to be disgusted by any immoral act. That disgust is turned into disbelief when the perpetrator of the act is identified with the same religion/ethnicity/nation as their own. Consequently an attempt is made to provide and excuse or reason for the crime, to somehow convince themselves that this perpetrator does not represent us.

All people behave like this, and frankly it is very immature. Therefore, when people like @waz acknowledge the problem, it is much easier to move forward and build bridges. Otherwise people are stuck in the past blaming unrelated events and entities and that serves no purpose or closure for those that suffer.

That is why the concept of justice is important in societies.

I wish I saw similar statements from Pakistanis when the Gurudwara was attacked in Afghanistan. Rather Pakistanis were blaming Indians with their usual Flase Flag nonsense. Seems like PM IK has brained washed an entire nation with this Indian False Flag nonsense by tweeting ad nauseam. It is very hard to take them seriously and take their statements at face value.

 

[Rusty]

@Rusty

I think you know me enough to know that I whole heatedly condemn this.
Attacking any religious place is wrong.

(Still waiting for you condemn the destruction of mosques in India tho )

 

[MayaBazar]

What do you mean?

I understand that you are AJK and the attacker may be also from the same region apart from both of you being in UK

So people hopefully see it, and we hate such filth among our community. This website is widely read.

Are you saying that you were expressing remorse because this news is being widely read on this forum?

 

[Cliftonite]

If this is indeed a Pakistani then this has to be condemned wholeheartedly. And future incidents prevented.

 

[313ghazi]

If this is indeed a Pakistani then this has to be condemned wholeheartedly. And future incidents prevented.

The police have already arrested a mentally ill man. Unfortunately in the UK they don't keep the nut jobs locked up very long.

Only last month an Iranian with mental health issues attacked 2 mosques and a church in Derby. The videoes were on social media. He claimed religions had ruined the world. This man did this on two separate occasions.

 

[Brar]

How many bucks that this "Pakistani" was on Indian payroll? They're seething at Sikhs and Pakistanis closeness after Kartarpur and doing everything to sabotage it.

Opening up Kartarpur was appreciated by sikhs, but to be honest you guys are overrating its effect on the relationship between sikhs and pakistan. I was at a gurdwara the day after the opening cermony, more then the corridor, people were talking about how pakistan was politicising it.

I think IK overplayed his hand by bringing in kasmir, modi and what not. Should have kept it simple and only spoken about the kartarpur koridor and left politics out of it.

 

[Rusty]

Opening up Kartarpur was appreciated by sikhs, but to be honest you guys are overrating its effect on the relationship between sikhs and pakistan. I was at a gurdwara the day after the opening cermony, more then the corridor, people were talking about how pakistan was politicising it.

I think IK overplayed his hand by bringing in kasmir, modi and what not. Should have kept it simple and only spoken about the kartarpur koridor and left politics out of it.

you are only saying that since that is what is being fed to you by your media and the narrative being pushed by Modi jee.
Countless videos of appreciative Sikhs on the verge of tears in their gratitude towards Pakistan.

 

[Brar]

The attacker is mentally ill. He also stabbed a man in a Polish shop. Police have already arrested him.

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/attack-sikh-temple-linked-derby-4162913

I have friends in Derby, that Gudwara is in Normanton - a majority Pakistan area. No harm has ever come to the Gudwaras, Temples or Churches in Normanton.

Unfortunately there have been several cases of mentally ill people attacking people and buildings. Two mosques have been attacked in the last 2 months. The attacker was a mentally ill Iranian.

https://www.voice-online.co.uk/news/uk-news/2020/03/13/serious-incident-close-to-derby-mosque/

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3014955268599156

I got familiy in that area as well. I dont think its a pakistani majority area. But yeah pakistanis are probavly the single largest ethnic group, sikhs not far behind.

you are only saying that since that is what is being fed to you by your media and the narrative being pushed by Modi jee.
Countless videos of appreciative Sikhs on the verge of tears in their gratitude towards Pakistan.

Not sure how many times im gonna say this on this forum. I dont live in india, i dont watch india media. I have seen more indian media on this forum then in my entire life, cos you guys seems to love to paste it here.

And im not a fan of Modi, im not a hindu, not a rss.

Anything else? Getting a little tiring with same thing everytime sombody writes something you dont like.

You know what sikhs think based on youtube videos, still im the brainwashed huh?

Obviously sikhs who went there were moved by seing their holy temple and felt gratitude towards pakistan for making it happen, which they should. Who wouldnt? But im not talking about them, im talking about the vaste majority of sikh population that never went there, for them the politising of it gave a bitter taste.

 

[Rusty]

I got familiy in that area as well. I dont think its a pakistani majority area. But yeah pakistanis are probavly the single largest ethnic group, sikhs not far behind.



Not sure how many times im gonna say this on this forum. I dont live in india, i dont watch india media. I have seen more indian media on this forum then in my entire life, cos you guys seems to love to paste it here.

And im not a fan of Modi, im not a hindu, not a rss.

Anything else? Getting a little tiring with same thing everytime sombody writes something you dont like.

You know what sikhs think based on youtube videos, still im the brainwashed huh?

Countless you tube videos are a better representative of the Sikh community then a random Indian on PDF who is not even Sikh.

I presented my evidence, countless Sikh made you tube videos, where as you presented... your feelings?

 

[Brar]

Countless you tube videos are a better representative of the Sikh community then a random Indian on PDF who is not even Sikh.

I presented my evidence, countless Sikh made you tube videos, where as you presented... your feelings?

Im not a sikh? Why not? Are you a muslim?

sikhs are anti-Muslim to the core. They may be making it all up. Is there ANY independent, genuine, irrefutable and compelling evidence to confirm the OP?

No they are not, ask @Rusty

 

[Ace of Spades]

Im not a sikh? Why not? Are you a muslim?

peche pind kera tuwada, menu jina v sikh mila hun tak aitha europe vich oo sarian nu koi na koi kair aa hindustan da naal. Jina v sikh baar settle hoa auna vicho main kat vekhe jera Pakistan nu changa naa samjhda hovan, atleast europe vich.

 

[Rusty]

Im not a sikh? Why not? Are you a muslim?


No they are not, ask @Rusty

So you are an anti Modi Sikh who lives in Norway but hates Pakistan for opening Kirtarpur.... you must be some kind of Unicorn.