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Attack on Army Camp in Samba Near Jammu, Throw Grenades Inside

This is what you wrote there:



Pause for a moment and think about how intellectually bankrupt your lie is. Sure, islam has fostered a common identity and all muslims are ummah brothers - that is why there are no wars and conflicts between shias and sunnis and alawites and hazaras and arabs and Persians and balochis and Punjabis and sindhis and kurds and berbers and Pashtuns and uzbeks and.....oh man.

Muslims are the most divided people one earth, and presently your own country is in a war because some people think they are the real muslims and others aren't. And across the middle east...

In this day and age, do you see any other group of people killing each other to determine who truly belongs to the group?

No, islam has not fostered any common identity - on the contrary, what it has done is to enable people to kill and persecute others for not being muslims in their opinion.

Now, to keep things pertinent:

None of the above is relevant to my question. What exactly are "muslim lands"? According to you, lands populated by muslims. You are forgetting that it used to be "hindu land" according to your theory, for millenia. And tell me something, why is it that it is only muslims who cannot tolerate others from living with them? By your logic, should we throw grenades at all the mulsims living across India, and "occupying hindu lands"? 10 million muslims live in Kashmir, 170 million in the rest of India. Should we consider them to be occupying "hindu lands"? Why is this sense of entitlement only reserved to muslims?

This is the prejudiced and bigoted worldview that is making muslim lands hell on earth. Unlike your country, we do not allot religion to lands. It is Indian land, not hindu or muslim or jain land. The fruits of the earth belong to all, and the earth belongs to none.

Pause for a moment, and think how much BS you try to muddle.....and yet the reality of India shines like anything...
What better way to post this:
Hashimpura massacre: Court acquits 16 UP cops - The Times of India

Continous state sponsored terrorism against it's own people. Yup, Secular India.
 
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Pause for a moment, and think how much BS you try to muddle.....and yet the reality of India shines like anything...
What better way to post this:
Hashimpura massacre: Court acquits 16 UP cops - The Times of India

Continous state sponsored terrorism against it's own people. Yup, Secular India.

What has that got to do with my post or the one I was responding to?

Ah yes, it's the classic 'tu quoque' fallacy.

Did I say India is completely peaceful? Horus' post was about islam forging a single identity and all other racial and ethni identities vanishing, and that was what I was responding to. Even if India was the most war torn place on earth, it would be completely irrelevant to the point I was making in response to horus' post.

Sorry but I'm not interested in a "You too, you too" kind of kindergartenish duel.
 
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Since1947 india occupied more than 10 smaller states including kashmir and Aligarh by their cunning acts .so they are in the huge threat to be responded by the inhabitants of these areas...and the war in pakistan against terrorism is imposed by worlds top ranking intelligence agencies such as raw ,mosad,blackwater and etc to weaken us and throw us back to the old days...but we are determined to bringe peace in subcontinent by helping needy peoples ...and we will be united soon.

Enlighten us about Kalat then..
 
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If you occupy Muslim lands you pay, simple and straight forward. Its ludicrous how Hindutva regime's occupation forces describe legitimate Kashmiri resistance as 'terrorism' - drink your fill, makes no difference.

This is why TTP is whoopng your @sses... Keep crying Miss.Horus

I seriously love your post some times and you are right as long as India is occupying Kashmir they will keep facing this

Is this the reason Pakistan is paying heavily ???
 
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Gunbattle over in J&K's Samba, two militants killed | Zee News

Jammu: Militants in Jammu and Kashmir launched a second attack on security forces in as many days, targeting an Army camp in Samba district early on Saturday. Here are the live updates:

  • We are concerned about repetition of such incidences, but security forces are giving a befitting reply - Rijiju
  • We will not let the terrorists to be successful, says MoS Home Kiren Rijiju.
  • This year we have neutralised 24 to 26 terrorists until now, with only one casualty on our side. Exchange of fire is also low on the Line of Control - Parrikar
  • Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar has informed that as of now, two militants have been neutralized in Samba. Search operation is still on to ensure there are no more militants hiding in the area, Parrikar added.
Security personnel take up positions during an encounter with militants at Mehasar army camp in Samba district of Jammu and Kashmir.
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My younger brother is right now deployed in bhulwama and he is there for 6months.. his sector is fine and absolutely no issues, just spoke with him in the morning....

Also I heard from him, people in that area wont even say the word india.... why should we hold such a territory under our control? Let's keep leh, ladakh since majority are buddhists and jammu... Leave the remaining part of muslim majority kashmir regions to decide their fate...

Hell no why should we be nice all the time kick out these traitors
We will keep these lands regardless of these people

We disagree, its Kashmiri land, we will see to it that they take it back, 10, 20, 50, a century or two..age of war will go on until that happens.

Big words coming from
A divided people
 
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If you occupy Muslim lands you pay, simple and straight forward. Its ludicrous how Hindutva regime's occupation forces describe legitimate Kashmiri resistance as 'terrorism' - drink your fill, makes no difference.
You need to vacate Baluchistan , Fata , Sindh and Waziristan.... As those are muslim Land....As your army and civilian is paying for it on daily basis.
 
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Hell no why should we be nice all the time kick out these traitors
We will keep these lands regardless of these people



Big words coming from
A divided people
We can kick out if its one or two people... what to do if an entire district is like that? I have heard the same thing from few of my other friends as well who are working in CRPF now, these people will not say themselves as "indians" when few of the Jawans go hyper, at max they will tell themselves as kashmiris... We kept these people under force for years, not at their will... We have the right to keep Jammu, Leh and Ladakh, but rest of kashmir doesn't belong to us simply because the ruler acceded the territory with India.......

Its only my personal opinion....
 
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Pause for a moment, and think how much BS you try to muddle.....and yet the reality of India shines like anything...
What better way to post this:
Hashimpura massacre: Court acquits 16 UP cops - The Times of India

Continous state sponsored terrorism against it's own people. Yup, Secular India.

How this BS you posted is even remotely connected to his post stop bashing India & answer his question

We can kick out if its one or two people... what to do if an entire district is like that? I have heard the same thing from few of my other friends as well who are working in CRPF now, these people will not say themselves as "indians" when few of the Jawans go hyper, at max they will tell themselves as kashmiris... We kept these people under force for years, not at their will... We have the right to keep Jammu, Leh and Ladakh, but rest of kashmir doesn't belong to us simply because the ruler acceded the territory with India.......

Its only my personal opinion....

With all due respect your personnel opinion is shit no nation will give up
Territory
We should round these traitors up & deport them
 
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We can kick out if its one or two people... what to do if an entire district is like that? I have heard the same thing from few of my other friends as well who are working in CRPF now, these people will not say themselves as "indians" when few of the Jawans go hyper, at max they will tell themselves as kashmiris... We kept these people under force for years, not at their will... We have the right to keep Jammu, Leh and Ladakh, but rest of kashmir doesn't belong to us simply because the ruler acceded the territory with India.......

Its only my personal opinion....

You are entitled to your opinion. But after supreme saceifices made by our jawans & civilians since independance , i say Hell no to it. :coffee:
 
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You are entitled to your opinion. But after supreme saceifices made by our jawans & civilians since independance , i say Hell no to it. :coffee:
Yes I know, the time has gone to let alone kashmir to go.. If we do now, it may create unrest in the North east again.. Now we have no option other than holding kashmir with us..

But What's more surprising is, even Indian muslims aren't in favor of giving freedom to kashmir.
 
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One terrorist has been halaled.:enjoy:


As long as the majority of muslims see the world through the prism of religion, and classify the world into "us v/s them", they will never be able to live in peace.

And let's face it, what @Horus said is not an uncommon worldview for most Pakistanis and many other muslims. It may sound so ludicrous and shocking to the rest of the world, but it is a fact that they think along those lines.

"How dare those kafirs occupy pure muslim lands, let's shoot them! But muslims living across India and the rest of the non Islamic world? Oh, they deserve equal rights, tolerance, understanding. If a muslim is insulted in India or France or Denmark, then there is no concept of hindu land or Christian land or muslims occupying those. Oh noes."

Well, at least our society has matured above and beyond this tribal mentality. Let's take solace from that thought. Our country is for our citizens - no matter what their religious persuasion. And I am glad that I come from such a country.

I have another idea - every time BLA or TTP attacks somewhere in Peshawar or NWFP, they blame India and RAW. I suppose we could tell them that it is the price to pay for occupying "hindu lands" like Purushapura. I wonder if the sarcasm would open their eyes.

But why use sarcasm? Jaanwar ko marne ke liya janwaar bnna padta hai!!! This is why i support right wing parties.
 
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Yes I know, the time has gone to let alone kashmir to go.. If we do now, it may create unrest in the North east again.. Now we have no option other than holding kashmir with us..

But What's more surprising is, even Indian muslims aren't in favor of giving freedom to kashmir.

In Northeast, separatist movement grew due to 3 major issues.
1. Cultural differences with rest of India
2. Economic undergrowth
3. Protection against demographic change in population structure created by illegal imigrants. Indigenious trribes wants to protect their rights at all costs.

With time, these movements have died down with economic progress.
 
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