'Attack again, and I'll launch a missile at Ben Gurion airport'

[jamahir]

What are your views on the ideology of Hezbollah and Arab Nationalism of Syria and the Ba'athist ideology?

Tell me if I am missing something.

1. "Arab Nationalism" I believe was an idea used to introduce socialism to the Arabic speaking peoples, and a big credit should go to Nasser. Let me add that Nasser was admired beyond the Arab world. A friend of mine in India was named Jamal Abdul Nasser.

2. During the Iran-Iraq war, Syria was in support of Iran, so I think that Iran is returning in kind the support to Syria in the current war. And Hezbollah is an extension of Iran.

3. There are some pilgrimage sites in Syria, mainly visited by the Shia, and Hezbollah and other Shia groups in the Syria war want to protect those sites.

4. Hezbollah feels that the Shia in Syria would be protected by the current political system than in a system formed by the SNC ( Syrian National Council ) that NATO wants in power in Syria.

5. Ba'athism is modern socialism and I call modern because certain things like Islam and the teachings of Prophet Jesus are older forms of socialism. Additionally, Ba'athism is specific to a region ( Iraq and Syria ) and in those two places Ba'athism ran counter to the Marxist Communist Parties. In Iraq specifically, the Communist Party of iraq joined the post-2003 ( US invasion ) political system strangely[1].

There is more about the Ba'athist movement in a thread I posted in January 2016. The article is written by Nadeem Paracha and he describes it better than me :

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...steryears-and-the-pious-muslims-of-now.417825​

Hamari Paros me bhi kujh log hai jo pishly 17 saal se lar rahy he..

I believe that the Afghanistan war is being fought between groups who are more or less the same ideology. I mean how different are people like Abdul Rasul Sayyaf ( formerly of the so-called Mujahideen ) to Taliban to ISIS??

The only surprising thing ( or shocking or new ) would be if the Leftists came to power.

As a Turk I’m behind you. Erdogan has been an Israeli stooge for years. I hope he finally woke up and seen the reality what is happening in Syria. Turkey and Syria need a defense pact ASAP.

Exactly !!

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Communist_Party#After_the_occupation_of_Iraq

 

[DavidSling]

So assad threaten to down a tourist aircraft...
Lol, it has been expected since he can't really do anything against military ones.

 

[Mohammed al-Faruqi]

Assad shots more empty rhetoric at Israel. While using his missiles at Syrian civilians.

 

[jamahir]

@Mohammed al-Faruqi , what is your opinion on Morsi??

 

[IceCold]

He sounds like Pakistan which said hum drone mar garian ga agli bar under aya, guess what our bluff was called and so will Syria.

 

[Solomon2]

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad today sent a threat to Israel through Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying that if Israel attacked them again, Syria would respond by firing Scud missiles at Ben-Gurion Airport. "Syrian honor above all else," Assad told Putin, who replied that he would convey the message to Israel.

Sounds like Assad is planning on a token attack as a point of "honor". Apparently that's the extent of it and no further conflict with Israel is implied.

 

[Imran Khan]

he is another guy like air chief of pakistan

 

[Desert Fox]

Tell me if I am missing something.

1. "Arab Nationalism" I believe was an idea used to introduce socialism to the Arabic speaking peoples, and a big credit should go to Nasser. Let me add that Nasser was admired beyond the Arab world. A friend of mine in India was named Jamal Abdul Nasser.

2. During the Iran-Iraq war, Syria was in support of Iran, so I think that Iran is returning in kind the support to Syria in the current war. And Hezbollah is an extension of Iran.

3. There are some pilgrimage sites in Syria, mainly visited by the Shia, and Hezbollah and other Shia groups in the Syria war want to protect those sites.

4. Hezbollah feels that the Shia in Syria would be protected by the current political system than in a system formed by the SNC ( Syrian National Council ) that NATO wants in power in Syria.

5. Ba'athism is modern socialism and I call modern because certain things like Islam and the teachings of Prophet Jesus are older forms of socialism. Additionally, Ba'athism is specific to a region ( Iraq and Syria ) and in those two places Ba'athism ran counter to the Marxist Communist Parties. In Iraq specifically, the Communist Party of iraq joined the post-2003 ( US invasion ) political system strangely[1].

There is more about the Ba'athist movement in a thread I posted in January 2016. The article is written by Nadeem Paracha and he describes it better than me :

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...steryears-and-the-pious-muslims-of-now.417825​

I believe that the Afghanistan war is being fought between groups who are more or less the same ideology. I mean how different are people like Abdul Rasul Sayyaf ( formerly of the so-called Mujahideen ) to Taliban to ISIS??

The only surprising thing ( or shocking or new ) would be if the Leftists came to power.



Exactly !!

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Communist_Party#After_the_occupation_of_Iraq

Interesting. You mentioned that the Communist Party of Iraq joined the post-Saddam American formed government, but doesn't this go against the usual Leftist mantra of opposing Western Imperialism?

 

[LeGenD]

Syrian threat makes sense because the only army in the world that has defeated Israel is Hezbollah and it stands with Syria. Secondly Syria just defeated USA which no one else ever has so Syrian threat has weight behind it as well.

Yes, Syria defeated USA by complaining.

Nobody defeated USA in Syria; USA has been violating Syrian sovereignty since 2014 for its "Operation Inherent Resolve."

 

[Oublious]

he have used all the scud missiles against his own people...

 

[-SINAN-]

This reminded me of ;

Damascus says it will shoot down Turkish warplanes in Syria

One day later Turkish jets over Syria;

 

[jewishm]

cant wait to see it happening

 

[sammuel]

Don't get behind me because I am behind Erdogan and I agree with him on many issues and I also agree with Assad on many issues the only people I don't agree with is USA and Israel. I pray that Assad and Turkey will find common ground and end this Israeli American proxy war in the region and some thing constructive will come out of Astana talks and Muslim will get their peace back in Syria and focus on true enemy that is Israel.

ohhh yes , you support Assad slaughtering his own people , you support the mullahs in Iran keeping their people under dictatorship or Erdogan bombing civilians in Syria .seems you support the whole middle east burning down as long as you imagine ,it would somehow hurt Israel.

Seems you are a good example of what happens to a person when he becomes blinded by hate and gets so twisted and distorted that he would support anything as long as you imagine it would advance your agenda.

And what is your agenda exactly ? It is certainly not to advance the peaceful solution between Palestinians and Israelis , if it was you will have my backing.

Instead you , like The mullahs in Iran and Assad , try to flame this conflicted , with the perverted hope of somehow profiting from it for your own twisted agenda.

~

 

[jamahir]

Interesting. You mentioned that the Communist Party of Iraq joined the post-Saddam American formed government, but doesn't this go against the usual Leftist mantra of opposing Western Imperialism?

Yes, it does go against. I don't know why they went that way.

Even in Iran the leftists of the Tudeh Party were initially supportive of Khomeini's revolution of 1979[1] :

In the early 1970s, the Iranian guerrilla movement began in northern Iran in the province of Mazandaran. The 1970s also witnessed the birth of widespread worker's strikes and demonstrations, and university campuses became a hotbed of revolutionary activity. In 1973, Tudeh released a brochure titled "oil from Iran and imperialist oil monopolies," likely advocating for oil nationalization. The Tudeh Party drastically increased its activities, recruiting many youth and organizing regional committees, supporting the Islamic Revolution when others on the left opposed it.

Confusingly, another Leftist Iranian group called Mujahideen-e-Khalq[2] sided with Saddam's Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war :

The organization gained a new life in exile, founding the National Council of Resistance of Iran and continuing to conduct violent attacks in Iran. In 1983, they sided with Saddam Hussein against the Iranian Armed Forces in the Iran–Iraq War, a decision that was viewed as treason by the vast majority of Iranians and which destroyed the MEK's appeal in its homeland In 1988, a fatwa by Khomeini led to the executions of political prisoners, including MEK members

and post-Saddam Iraq, MeK got together with the American occupiers of Iraq[2] :

While the MEK's leadership has resided in Paris, the group's core members were for many years confined to Camp Ashraf in Iraq, particularly after the MEK and U.S. forces signed a cease-fire agreement of "mutual understanding and coordination" in 2003. The group was later relocated to former U.S. military base Camp Liberty in Iraq[45] and eventually to Albania

What confusion !!

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudeh_Party_of_Iran#Iranian_Revolution_of_1979

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran

 

[somebozo]

These cold war scuds can be intercepted easily by Israeli defenses..the retaliation may forced Bashar to flee somewhere! Bashar is good at making mockery of himself..i wonder if he was cracking jokes with Putin!