At Least 22 Reportedly Killed in Attack in Western China

[kalu_miah]

My condolences to the victims.

 

[kalu_miah]

@mike2000 what do you think about US/CIA decision to use religious extremism in Afghanistan theater against the Soviets?
Bin Laden's, CIA roots. How We Created Our Own Terror
Sleeping With the Devil: How U.S. and Saudi Backing of Al Qaeda Led to 9/11 Washington's Blog
CRG -- The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan
Afghanistan, the CIA, bin Laden, and the Taliban

Did that have anything to do with unbottling this extremist Genie?

And how about we go back a few more decades and look at British empire support to Ibn Saud?
Death of Ibn Saud | History Today

Did this have anything to do with Islamic extremism proliferation we see today?

 

[Shishike]

lool Seems the Chinese police are really poorly trained. They should send their police force to the U.S for training. Had this happened in the U.S, all those terrorists/attackers will have been gunned down by even just 1 police officer(You just have to see how well armed/trained they are). Even more so when the terrorists weren't even armed(guns/automaitic rifles etc)

if U.S has't trained these terrorists, life of citizen will be much easy.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Where is the WholeX guy who keep poisoning PDF PRC that all these bombing "got nothing to do with Islam"? So caste system got nothing to do with Hinduism and Inquisition got nothing to do with Christian.

 

[TaiShang]

And will see the face out of veil of brother in arm... pakistan as Iran is beginning to realise...

Iran is indeed a source of stability in the Middle East with its sane and rational foreign policy as opposed to the insanity and radicalism spread by the likes Turkey, Qatar and the KSA.

China does certainly need to ramp up good relations with Iran. In fact, the below analysis shed light on the development of a more comprehensive partnership between the two nations.

And India's positive feedback in terms of handling separatist ethno-religious terrorism is always welcome.

Iran's navy commander Habibollah Sayyari (C) points while standing on a naval ship during Velayat-90 war game on Sea of Oman near the Strait of Hormuz in southern Iran, Jan. 1, 2012. (photo by REUTERS/Fars News/Hamed Jafarnejad)

Navy exercises bring Iran, China closer

Al Monitor, Iran Pulse

As global media keep their focus on the Islamic State (IS) and the US airstrikes in Syria and Iraq, other notable, potentially headline-making events are being missed.

Summary⎙ Print The joint exercises between the Iranian and Chinese navies signals a step toward closer ties, as well as a possible future challenge to American naval dominance in the Persian Gulf.
Author Mustafa SalamaPosted October 19, 2014
On Sept. 20, China dispatched ships to the Persian Gulf for a joint exercise with the Iranian navy — the first time that Chinese warships have ever sailed in the Gulf. The Chinese missile destroyer Changchun and missile frigate Changzhou of the 17th Naval Fleet took part in a five-day joint training drill, the aim of which was "establishing peace, stability, tranquility and multilateral and mutual cooperation," according to Adm. Amir Hossein Azad, commander of Iran's First Naval Zone.

In understanding the move by China and Iran, one must keep three things in mind. First, it is the first time China, a US rival that does not border the Gulf, has ever sailed warships in the Gulf. Second, these exercises signal a boost in Iran's position in the Gulf and the region. Third, the move cannot be viewed outside China's response to the US foreign policy concept of "Pivot to Asia," which signaled a US plan to shift focus and resources to Asia in response to China's growing power and influence — a move that China saw as an attempt to contain it.

The Gulf is a globally important strategic location — an area that the United States is willing to spend "blood and iron" to keep under its influence or, practically, its control. For the Gulf to be approached by China, it would — or should — make the United States take notice.

Boost for Iran

In the past, Iran has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz if it were to come under attack by the United States or Israel for its nuclear program. If Iran were to act on that threat, oil prices would skyrocket. Iran has also expressed discomfort at foreign navy ships sailing in the Gulf.

On April 6, 2012, Iran's navy saved a Chinese cargo ship from Somali pirates. It has also prevented other pirate attacks on various occasions. It seems there is no need for an external presence in the Gulf since Iran is competent and not in need of China to protect its ships in the Gulf, though Iran would likely welcome the move since China is a close ally. Iran, however, finds it inexcusable that hostile ships from other countries roam the Gulf under the pretext of carrying out anti-piracy or anti-terrorism operations.

In a 2012 interview following the Somali pirate incident, Adm. Habibollah Sayyari, commander of Iran's navy, said in an interview: "With coordination and cooperation, we can easily provide security in the region because we have mutual interests, and only those with mutual and legitimate interests can truly cooperate. So, two or more countries can easily handle this. That’s why we stress there is no need for the presence of foreign troops."

Having the support of the Chinese navy puts Iran in a stronger position in the Gulf, even if just symbolically, as the US Navy presence in the Gulf by far outmatches its rivals. The United States, however, might reconsider making moves that would potentially anger China, as the two countries possess plenty of mutual interests.

The governments of China and Iran plan for trade between the two countries to reach $200 billion in 10 years. Furthermore, Iran is the third-largest supplier of oil to China, providing for 12% of China's annual consumption. Therefore, China would want to protect its interests in Iran, as the United States is doing the same in the Gulf. The recent joint navy drills are a push in this regard.

Chinese interests

In mid-September, Chinese President Xi Jinping visited Sri Lanka and the Maldives. The themes of the visits were similar, as China was assisting both countries in economic development, which would in turn provide economic opportunities for China. More important, the countries are part of China's 21st Century Maritime Silk Road initiative. Xi promised to cooperate with the Maldives and Sri Lanka on "peace, stability and prosperity," as well as "port construction and operation, maritime economy and security, and the construction of a maritime transportation center in the Indian Ocean." These initiatives bring China closer to the Middle East and within better reach of Iran, and show that the recent navy drills are part of a greater Chinese foreign policy.

China is obviously trying to counterbalance the US "Pivot to Asia" policy. China is already experiencing plenty of tensions in the South China Sea, with conflicts over islands and maritime issues with neighboring countries. The United States is exploiting such tensions and concerns among China's neighbors. For example, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, visited Vietnam in August, making him the highest-ranking US military officer to visit Vietnam since 1971.

Dempsey's recent visit comes only a few months after tensions increased between Vietnam and China, as Chinese vessels and Vietnamese navy ships collided in the South China Sea. The Chinese vessels were setting up an oil rig in an area claimed by both countries. In his visit, Dempsey spoke about the possibility of lifting the ban on sales of lethal weapons to Vietnam that has been in place since the Vietnam War. He also mentioned in his visit maritime common security interests, referring to the common rival of China.

With the recent exercises, China aims to break free from the containment and strengthen its alliances and capabilities in the Middle East. Perhaps China also has future plans for a permanent presence in the Gulf, or near it, as the United States has done in the South China Sea. The aims of the drills are similar for Iran, as it wants to strengthen its regional position. Yet, China and Iran cannot compete with the more powerful US Navy. Still, China's ambitions don’t seem short-sighted; it is clearly planning ahead to better secure its trading routes between Southeast Asia and the Middle East.

The Chinese navy's visit to the city of Bandar Abbas is unlikely to be the last. It is a reflection of good relations between China and Iran, and the Maritime Silk Road initiative. Should China in the future strengthen its presence in the Gulf and its Maritime Silk Road, the Chinese warships that docked at Bandar Abbas will always be remembered as a turning point.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

In this comment, Islamofascist is use to differential between good Muslims.

A lot Sunni Islamofascist today is full of hate, narcissism, self-victimization, entitlement mentality, murderer mentality, making everyone stupid mentality. First many Sunni iman preach ignorant. World wide, you see Sunni Islamist sending their kids to madrassah who preach hate rather than secular school who inculcate technical skills, maths, natural science and humanities.

Worse, in places like Southern Thailand, Sunni Islamist are killing teachers in order to become as stupid as possible.

These Sunni grown up into jihad kid full of hate and it become worse when they are gabbage heap that no one want them for employment. Their mullah tell them that Islam is good and they are the chosen one, they got into shitt because of discrimination. These Sunni also try to better their life by covering their women up, reading koran instead of computer science books in order to get blessing of God. But they found themselves more and more into shitt.

So they try harder. They start to preach capita punishment for apostasy, stoning, amputation, and find whatever opportunity to beat up neighbours, by using exuse such as blasphemy.

But they find themselves got into bigger shitt than ever. So next thing they do is to try murder to please God.

Sunni Islamofascist are stupid and wicked people. They do not want to see their gentile neighbors becoming richer than them. They despise their gentile neighbor for worshipping false god, but unfortunately, Allah seems to bless gentiles..

Sunni Islamofascist are not contented in their rightful place in society-- which is shitt, Their killing are entire motivated by greed and horney. If they succeed like ISIS, they may enjoy their sexx slave by raping their neighbors' daughter. If they fail, God will give them 72 virgins.

 

[Edison Chen]

But i hope that China Police do not become too brutal or forceful. You're right tho, they have to respond proportionally, but overall I hope they remain a benevolent force.

Thanks I wish so. When I was stopped by a policeman in China, he saluted to me first, then he "requested" me to show my driver's license, after he finished checking, he saluted again to me and returned the licence. In China, officially we call the policeman - people's policeman. But in the US, I still remeber I was pulled over by a damn cop with a gun, I was scared.

 

[Aepsilons]

Id rather have a People's Policeman than any other. Good to know you were safe tho!

 

[vtnsx]

that's only 1.69x10^-6 % of the Chinese population. It's negligible.

Thanks I wish so. When I was stopped by a policeman in China, he saluted to me first, then he "requested" me to show my driver's license, after he finished checking, he saluted again to me and returned the licence. In China, officially we call the policeman - people's policeman. But in the US, I still remeber I was pulled over by a damn cop with a gun, I was scared.

You're easily intimidated by western cops.

 

[mike2000]

You're easily intimidated by western cops.

loool You are right indeed. Show some courage Edison.

 

[Aepsilons]

Be courteous to US police. And always say, "Hello Officer. Can I help you with anything Officer?"

Be kind, they will reciprocate.

 

[mike2000]

if U.S has't trained these terrorists, life of citizen will be much easy.

well the U.S trained these terrorists to fight against the former U.S.S.R after the later invaded Afghanistan. That was indeed a short sighted move by the U.S. However, i bet the U.S and Pakistanis leadership back then couldnt imagine the Taliban will turn out to be terrorists who will carry out suicide bombings against them, and inspire a global jihad movement.
I have always been a critic of our governments(western/U.S) policy towards arming some rag tag muslim groups or 'freedom fighters' as in Syria, since they simply play nice/show their democratic credentials just to gain internationa/media support for their cause and get weapons/ammunitions/aid, which enable them to grow faster and stronger before they target the west/and their own home countries.
Our governments should just ignore them even when there is a conflict, but then again if we did that, im sure many people here and there will accuse of turning a bling eye to attrocities taking place in the region etc, and when we do intervene, they still accuse of being hegemonistic/having ulterior motives etc so its damn if we do, damn if we dont.
When China becomes as strong/powerful/influential as the U.S then you yourself will understadn what i mean. With great power comes great responsibilities. You will have to learn to live with that.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

India supports China in crushing Islamic terrorism in Xianjiang region........

Only difference between Islamic terrorism in China and India is that in China terrorist have just knives while in India these Pakistan sponsored Islamic terrorists have AK47s....

Rest in peace to innocent han victims...

Hope at least now China understands the situation in India....

 

[Aepsilons]

What is so special in it ? Even a muslim loves his family, his kid, wife, parents in the same way and get unnecessarily butchered by empirical powers. What is their fault ? China is bound to be a hell in near future because of its deeds.

You have a point, buddy.

 

[cnleio]

Be courteous to US police. And always say, "Hello Officer. Can I help you with anything Officer?"

Be kind, they will reciprocate.

China government strictly control gun fire, even to policeman. So the police in China afraid of using guns to Chinese folks:

1. If a China policeman shoot a wrong ppl, he will get pressures from local media & China media will using such case to attack local government, the police system will suspend the policeman or kick him out. If he shoot someone to dealth, the policeman will sentenced to jail.
2. If a China policeman lost the gun, he also will get punishment or into jail.
3. Except SWAT and China Armed Police, most China policeman doesn't get pistols, usually one policestation only has 4~5x pistols locked in strongbox all days.

China policeman more looks like a security guard on the street, but they can call for SWAT.