At last, a Pak official voice absolves Raw

[rockstar08]

No, millions of PKR in unaccounted for Zakat and assorted donations, made every year. Come on, its not hard to understand. Always everything significant, besides God, has proof. This involvement of foreign countries, isn't some belief, to insist on this no proof thing.

well i rather believe in ISPR statements over foreign involvement over you
when there is something , there is prove .. no matter if you want to hide it or show it to the world .. if anything doesnt have prove doesn't mean it didn't exists

 

[Umair Nawaz]

And WHAT did the intel report say?
Do you have the summary of it? from official press releases or something ?
Did it specifically mention India giving money/planning/chocolates for this attack?

@Horus first shared that report which was published Dawn News as well as Express Tribune.

I couldnt find the News but here is what i found from defence.pk

A new era of Pak-Afghan relations and Frustration of Friends in East. In this thread there has been Express tribune sources shared by a member.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/806178/sinister-scheme-raw-planning-attack-on-indian-soil/

This has to be noted however that this threat was that RAW was planning to attack on indian soil and blame that on Pakistan. But intel reports or threat level reports usually are not accurate. But its the objectives that matter and by Peshawar attack these objectives can be cleared spot on since Obama is due to visit india too and this will help them instigate the global opinion on pakistan that was loosing its power lately because the focus has changed to ISIS and Ukraine.

Here is a visual media report BTW.

 

[SQ8]

@Horus first shared that report which was published Dawn News as well as Express Tribune.

I couldnt find the News but here is what i found from defence.pk

A new era of Pak-Afghan relations and Frustration of Friends in East.

This has to be noted however that this threat was that RAW was planning to attack on indian soil and blame that on Pakistan. But intel reports or threat level reports usually are not accurate. But its the objectives that matter and by Peshawar attack these objectives can be cleared spot on since Obama is due to visit india too and this will help them instigate the global opinion on pakistan that was loosing its power lately because the focus has changed to ISIS and Ukraine.

Here is a visual media report BTW.

And what you found has little relevance to what you allege. What you are trying to do is somehow pin together a conspiracy theory in desperation even with the dots dont exist. Yes, India has been involved in helping the BLA and TTP but this attack had nothing to do with that.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

And what you found has little relevance to what you allege. What you are trying to do is somehow pin together a conspiracy theory in desperation even with the dots dont exist. Yes, India has been involved in helping the BLA and TTP but this attack had nothing to do with that.

Did u visit that thread?

 

[SQ8]

Did u visit that thread?

Yup, I watched it before you gave the link... and gave it no thought as it still has little effect on the Peshawar attack.

 

[acid rain]

yeah exactly how American so called offlicials told us that Iraq has WMD's lols
and just like your officials told us that Samjhota express was done by Pakistan .. keep dreaming kid ..

So what do you think the IAF blew up in Iraq? Though I will give you that - Iraq war was bull shit. They should have looked for osama and his cohorts in pakistan - would have saved them a war.

As for samjouta express - it technically was a reaction to pakistani terrorism in India, so yes it was pakistan that did it - they brought the mullah jihad retared mujji terrorism into the region. You guys are the cause for all Islamic terrorism in South Asia.

 

[rockstar08]

So what do you think the IAF blew up in Iraq? Though I will give you that - Iraq war was bull shit. They should have looked for osama and his cohorts in pakistan - would have saved them a war.

As for samjouta express - it technically was a reaction to pakistani terrorism in India, so yes it was pakistan that did it - they brought the mullah jihad retared mujji terrorism into the region. You guys are the cause for all Islamic terrorism in South Asia.

 

[acid rain]

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[Cruizer]

I am quite sure, I dont base my analysis on chachas and phuppas and drawing room talks. The Indian involvement has been tell tale WHERE it has been and NOT in this case.



What does the selling out of GEO have to do with Sartaj Aziz?

Ask your Indian fellows. They can answer you.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

This oldman has no value in our country so we give a dam and this time RAW hand was more visible than ever before

How was the 'RAW hand more visible than ever before'?

Where is your proof? Or is it just the hate?
They HAVE financed TTP attacks in the past, but this had nothing to do with that.

Playing Devil's Advocate -- you must realize that ANY kind of past or current support, even if not for a specific act, can be considered to have laid the groundwork (unintentionally perhaps) for subsequent attacks. The West and Indians certainly make that argument with respect to LeT and the Afghan Taliban, that the absence of any direct support for their activities in the recent past does not absolve Pakistan from responsibility given their past support for them and current 'tolerance' of their mere existence.

As Pakistan herself is finding out, while these non-State actors may have been created with limited goals in mind, it becomes almost impossible to control them after a certain point. Afghan (which is pretty much confirmed) and alleged Indian support for the TTP never had any chance of turning into leverage that translated into any kind of control over the organization.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

@Oscar. Let me submit what I know and you can take it for what it's worth.

1. Baloch separatists have Indian connections but it is more at the preparatory stage for now. That is why you do not see much coming out of that region. I've been told that the redline is another 26/11 like attack. Not even the frequent Kashmir cross border terrorism will 'trigger' an all out support from India. This was what Chuck was referring to btw. So yes- they do have contacts with this group, but it is all prep work so far coming out Afghanistan. And then too it would need a green light from Delhi.

AND! Delhi knows that the U.S. knows this, so I'm not even sure they will give a green light and risk being called out.

2. With TTP there is no chance no how of any Indian backing. TTP unlike the Baloch groups which are largely about " independence", are hard core Islamists. There is no way this group will tie up with Hindu India. Their core fundamental principles lie in a misguided protection and interpretation of Islam, and that makes it impossible for India to even approach this group.

 

[OrionHunter]

Interior Minister, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan: We are a nuclear power. Pakistan’s armed forces have capability to take the bull by the horns. India should stop violating the ceasefire (along the Line of Control) and engage in peace dialogue. When most people here (in Pakistan) suspect India of backing terror groups then there must be something (truth) in it.

Blah blah and more blah!

This fellow says, "We are a nuclear power"! So frickin what? India ain't Burkina Faso.
And then he says, "Pakistan’s armed forces have capability to take the bull by the horns"! Really? I wonder which bull they caught by its horns in 1947, 1965, 1971, and Kargil?
And, "When most people here (in Pakistan) suspect India of backing terror groups then there must be something (truth) in it." Oh yeah! Right!

 

[Capt.Popeye]

And what you found has little relevance to what you allege. What you are trying to do is somehow pin together a conspiracy theory in desperation even with the dots dont exist. Yes, India has been involved in helping the BLA and TTP but this attack had nothing to do with that.

@Oscar; BLA connections are believable.......... but TTP connections ??? I thought that you are smarter than this?
And I'm just trying to be polite now.
Unless you were trying to be a "cunninglinguist"..... to paraphrase one of your own favorite expressions!

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar; BLA connections are believable.......... but TTP connections ??? I thought that you are smarter than this?
And I'm just trying to be polite now.
Unless you were trying to be a "cunninglinguist"..... to paraphrase one of your own favorite expressions!

Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids (Avoid graphic pics/vids)

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids (Avoid graphic pics/vids)

Why did'nt you direct me to:
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That might have been more credible instead.